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Mark I think I answered your question in a previous post.
It is not just the quality of the recording that makes a song radio ready but the quality of the mixing and production not to mention mastering.....most people just do not have these skills and the plugins needed cost thousands. Anyone who spends thousands on plugins and fx etc etc etc is not worrying about a freebie like Reaper. Again. You haven't answered my question. First I asked what the difference in audio quality was, you didn't answer. Then I asked what Logic or Pro Tools or Cubase or any program that costs hundreds of dollars can do that Reaper can't. You still didn't answer. VST plugins/instruments/master suites can be used in any host that supports them, so if that's your answer, you're incorrect. Somebody who buys Reaper because it's cheap is smart, they aren't missing out on anything. You keep changing the argument, if you're saying "radio ready" has to do with mixing, engineering, recording space, good ears, good hardware, good VST plugins, experience, etc then you're absolutely right. No argument at all. But you still haven't answered me as to how Reaper somehow records audio differently than Pro Tools or what those programs have that Reaper doesn't, which makes it incapable of producing "radio ready" quality. Saying people who invest thousands elsewhere "don't worry about a freebie like Reaper" just sounds ignorant. I'd say after investing thousands in hardware I'd be looking to cut costs on my software You are nitpicking and surely having a laugh......I know for a fact that Audacity cannot produce the quality of recordings that pro progs do....I just cannot be bothered to go into all the tech details except to say that it is not compatable with or does not accept a lot of third party plugins and it does not store the files and edits as non destructive is a good enough starting point..... as for Reaper producing good clean pro recordings and doing ALL the things you seem to claim....... then I will take your word for it. That said in this discussuon it is a pretty mute point. I suspect there is a reason why none of the pro studios use Reaper as a first option but if you are happy with using it yourself then great.....you have saved a few bob. I think I have answered your question sufficiently perhaps you just do not like the answer. Pro studios invest in the best equipment and employ only experienced sound engineers... their clients insist on it.......I think most would think it preposterous to save a few bucks using a freeware type music production programon which is not considered an industry standard and is not widely recognised by ALL top artists....OK I am snobbish and ignorant.....and so are all my friends. Interesting to hear how many SMART pro studios you know who use and recommend Reaper......to save a few hundred bucks. I stand by what I said and am sure most people who record to pro standard in pro studios will agree. All the best. JIM Hi Jim, in general, alot of people that use Audacity or Reaper are using their computer sound card, so it wouldn't sound as somebody with nicer equipment. I don't use either program. I have always tried to use Pro Tools wherever I go, if possible. The only other program I use frequently is a 2 track editor (Wavelab) I know a little about Reaper, and I can tell you that Reaper is now 64 Bit, and Pro Tools is still 32. Now when dealing with computer audio, let's say you record at 24 bit 48k. That's how we do it around here. So say you record a vocal into a U67 + Neve 1073 + Tube-Tech CL1b and split the signal into a couple Apogee Mini-Me's s/pdif into the same interfaces, clocked to the Apogees, at 24/48 into two separate computers, with one running Reaper and the other running Pro Tools 9. Virtually identical setups into two computers, with all the settings set exactly the same. Are you gonna hear the difference in the Reaper version and the Pro Tools version. Not likely. You just recorded the exact same program material into the same equipment. The only difference is the program. Most of the mathematics are not as important as how the sound is recorded. It's possible that many people believe because a recording program isn't as expensive, it isn't as good. This isn't true, as with any recording program, you will still be using the same sound engine. For instance, on a Mac, it's core audio. Personally, I wouldn't use Reaper. But not because I think it sounds inferior. It's because I don't want to stray away from something I know how to work, and has never failed to give me the sound I need. Also, I like the way it looks. It's okay to stare at Pro Tools for hours on end. Now crashes, and errors...well...that's a completely other topic. What we are talking about here is, is the recording program as important sound wise as your sound card, A/D and D/A converters, mics, pre's, compressors...well, no. It isn't. The difference is probably negligible at best. You should use the program you like best. Which is where Pro Tools really shines. Been using it since 1998, and won't switch until something better comes along....I may be waiting a long time. Not to mention almost every file I ever get is a pro tools session. I might chuckle if somebody sent me a session from an old Cool Edit Pro rig or something, and it was un-consolidated. And to answer your question, The main reason Pro studios started using Pro Tools first was it was around before everything else was. The very first incarnation of Pro Tools was around back in 1989. Almost 15 years ago Pro Tools could record 48 tracks. Nobody else was doing it like that. Radar had 24 tracks, and that EMU or Paris thing probably did the same, Fairlight was waaaay expensive and it did 24 tracks. Not to mention, Pro Tools had the hardware and better plug-in's at the time. Nobody else was really offering what the big studios needed to record with, and not to mention the awful block-form editing associated with the before mentioned products. So they get the big studios hooked on it, they release the Digi-001 so everybody can use it, and get those people hooked on it, really before most other companies had anything good. Then they released the Mbox and suddenly the Mbox is the coolest thing ever. You can record anywhere with it. Now.... had Reaper had been around back then, and had been making systems for recording since computer based recording was an option, then Reaper might be in Pro Tools position now, and maybe wouldn't have to give their stuff away for almost nothing.
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