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"So tell me your idea about the show"

"It's a show about Nothing".

"Well, Something has to happen." ???

"No! No! Nothing happens! Nothing happens!

"Then why would people want to watch it"

"Because it's on TV!"

...."Not yet".

"Seinfeld": The show about "nothing", but had just about everything in it!

I LOVE this subject, and spend a lot of TIME thinking about Time, which contains "everything. So, what about Nothing?

I think as Scott does, about "time". (Knowing a thing or two about time, for,,,,well, you know,,,,our band name we had?. And a song of mine that Brian likes so much, being about "time"? So, being as I have a musician's self appointed degree in Time, ("Doctor Time", thank you), I think Time is an instant by-product of Energy. ("Movement" of anything "making" Time).

Since Inertia is what it is, (stuck), Movement is the only thing that leads to Kinetic Energy. Therefore, only something moving could later produce a perception of nothing. (As in a ball being thrown up in the air, Or the beginning of "this" Universe).

First, the ball thing: At the highest point, it stops. (No apparent movement of the ball). Some would call that a Nothing period, for Nothing seems to be happening. BUT, the energy of movement "up" is only being canceled out before gravity wins. So that gets me thinking about "our" Big Bang. I suggest that a single parent Universe collapsed to allow "our" big bang to happen. (The child in a sense of the previous Universe). Same with the one before our parent one. And so on and so one backwards in "time". "Energy not able to be created or destroyed". Simple explanations, (Occam's Razor), are usually the correct ones.

Like the ball in an apparent stop position, (where Nothing seems to be happening), Time reaches an apparent end, maybe only to have the previous Universe transfer energy. (Handing over the reigns to a new Universe). Expanding, then collapsing, to another big bang and expansion, to another collapse, etc. Always Energy. Always in some Time.

The end of a previous Universe that dies a horrific collapse, much like a star ending in a Supernova, gives birth to it's child Universe to grow up and be whatever it will. Time doesn't need a first start. Everything else doesn't really have one either if we think about previous direct connections. Our own lives have an apparent beginning. But wasn't every parent, grandparent, great grandparent and so on we have all contributing to the slow cooking recipe for "us"? Only that it took Time for us to come to be a human form. And before the first person, to have previous energy events lead to that first person? Everything then is connected by "Energy". Energy being Time, Time is not capable of having a Nothing. (Occom's Razor)

If energy can't be stopped, and everything is connected? Then it's all a revolving time-line of always having energy around, with countless Universes before this one. If so, then there truly can't be nothing, for Energy is Time. And Time has Something happening! Just like the Seinfeld shows!

As far as "who or what" created energy? Did Energy need to be created? Proof being it's endless characteristics? Human Brains who could think up stuff early on created God in their image, it seems. Many different Gods, depending on what tribe or country or religion you ask. For people saw beginnings and ends with their daily living. Too short of a time period to judge the time of Infinity though. So, of course, people had to come up with "Something" to try to explain everything they saw.

Everything seems to have been connected for All Time, (Past and Future), which is All the Time there is!

Something! Everything! Eternal! All the Same.

"Nothing" (simply) cannot exist, right?. Lynn points out how we use that word though.

Fun topic! I may be partly or all wrong of course. But it ALL just seems logical and obvious. Nothing is nothing more than thinking there has to be something else.