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This thread has the same appeal as reality shows, you get hooked for a short time then it goes away forever lol...

I have ALWAYS been a middle guy, an adapter to any situation or anyone. So I could sit in room all day with Big Jim and agree and get along constantly spend 90% of it laughing and saying 'yes yes totally" then go down to Nashville and do that all day with Marc and anywhere else with anybody lol...

Again & again everyone has opinions and preferences but what it all really boils down to like I always say is "PERSPECTIVE" PERCEPTION.

And there are MILLIONS of dollars spent trying to "Tell people": what to buy and like. That is so absurd on it's face as to be utter nonsense.

Hello? That is what this entire WORLD is based on from your deodorant to your President. Advertising is just about a Million Dollar business lol...For better "perspective" rent 30 seconds of AIR during the Superbowl. And see first hand what it takes to TOTALLY tell people what to buy and what to like. It's the way it is.

Does not mean what you sell them will last or sell forever, in that "the cream usually rises to the top"

As for Taylor Swift - Let it go.. The girl is talented and has a great image in more than one way. MAYBE she'll be really remembered in 10, 20, 30 years who knows. She is NOT Paul Simon in any regard, so lets not make her out to be. But please try to remember GIVE credit where and HOW credit is due. I mentioned in another thread how I have her soon to be equal in a 13 year old girl we are producing right now. In a few short weeks I'm putting her voice,her songs and her picture into Clive's hands
It will be an opportunity of a lifetime. A thrill even if she gets passed up by him. Just like I did when I was 19. I framed and hung my rejection letter on the wall.

Lets see about "perspective" If our young girl gets on the charts someday and is successful do I "rip her"? And say she's another handpicked pop star? Or are we proud and happy for her success and how were a big part of making a dream come true and doing something positive in our life?
You as an industry person LOVE Taylor is she is singing your song. You are her producers, band, manager,agents, label,Whatever you can think of. That is alot of professional people to make happy.


Don't worry so much how someone YOU don't know at all thinks of themself.
Because what does it matter? Maybe there "perspective" is unclear right now, they have there crew,there people there possies and there fans telling them every second of everyday how great they are. ANYONE and EVERYONE with a real brain in there head knows or realizes sooner or later at the end of the night when they close there eyes. "Compared to Stevie Wonder I TOTALLY SUCK but at least I'm not alone"

We have to stay focused and positive especially if we are REALLY trying to have ANYKIND of music career especially a songwriting one.

Try to keep the negativity that we ALL have sometime or somewhere hidden inside. Don't let it get in the way of your life and your career. Nobody wants to work with someone who comes off that way. So that's a guarantee of less to no collabs or contacts.
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Hey I understand how Jim feels totally...

When I see a music related guy or girl on MTV CRIBS with a mansion and all the money and things in the world I feel it too.
OF course when they can't play,sing,produce,write melodies or know nothing about recording and they are RICH from music it is rather bewildering lol... BUT that's America baby,,

I don't say I should have MORE than them, I just think "wow I can't pay for medical costs or keep my teeth in my mouth with my abilities and years & years & years of UNPARALLELED perseverance.

This was MUCH easier to accept when Elton John & Billy Joel.Michael Jackson,Stevie Wonder were The BIGGEST Pop Stars in the world. There EXTREME talents are SO obvious to anyone with 2 ears and half a brain. Yes everyone is weak compared to these people. So I know how you's feel.

I don't have as much a problem when I see an athlete though.
We seem to accept that business more than we do the music biz.
And besides you CANT do anything near what they can do. So no conflict. If Music was like boxing people would be gone even faster.

But -
Pitbull, Kanye(auto tune)West.Lil Wayne, Hanna Montanna, P Diddy and on & on whoever is on the charts right now .... I know that if I go into a musical room with these people Not only am I gonna hold my own, I'm gonna get respect, I'm may (quietly) embarrass a few of them hurt a few ego's (for a few seconds anyway) lol

WHY am I saying this? to say to YOU work on YOUR GAME.

Even though I know I suck compared to the REAL past greats.. If given the chance I'm GONNA make somebody in my business say - Cool clever lyric there, hey nice melody, very catchy too, great part man, cool idea, slamming bass line, love that guitar part, nice sound, cool piano, how did you record that, cool idea, nice production.

When I rest my head I know I am as good and can do things that they can't. Regardless of money, popularity and all that. You can go on without the "public's respect" but not "self respect"

Fill the holes in your game best you can,because EVERYONE at some time can & will have resentment towards the industry or whatever there job or career is...
That's not nearly as important as having resentment towards YOURSELF. Make it so you can't can't blame YOU. When your that busy nothing else will matter.

On Collabs - They are HUGE. From the other people in your bands
to co-writers with pens & pads, to your producers, manager, contacts. YOUR attitude is the number one strength you own and the best thig you can bring to the table.

All The Best to you guys!