Ah hell, I'm here to write, not dance. Ben, why don't we just agree to disagree on this one and call a truce. I'm going to get dizzy going in meaningless circles with you. That's not meant to be offensive, it's just the truth. There's nothing to gain or lose with this debate. Derek, liked your poem. Ben, you and I are very strongly opinionated individuals that will probably butt heads again at one time or another. My hand is out to shake yours in an agreement to drop it and respect one another as worthy adversaries. One cannot be condemned for their opinion, nor for standing up for it (and I say that in reference to both of us). Anne, love and peace chika. smile


If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space.