Sorry Truman, ol' friend,

but I have to agree with Patty on this one. Sure the government passed a law mandating higher wages ... so the corporations moved the jobs overseas ... where they still pay slave wages. The government made it illegal to dump waste in the rivers here, so Union Carbide did it in India...

It is not a one-on-one issue. You do not go in a bar that has a capacity of 100 people and say, "I have a problem with cigarette smoke. So please ask one smoker to refrain from smoking....Noooo, you want all 99 to stop smoking. This is the problem I have personally with rabid non-smokers.

They want to force their wishes on all. In one of Kit's responses on page 2, it was stated that "smokers want a way...." "non-smokers want a world....." That pretty much sums it up.

Dear Doo Wah Diddy,

Thomas Jefferson's cash crops at Monticello were wheat and tobacco. He was a tobacco farmer.

George Washington's cash crops at Mount Vernon were Tobacco and Wheat. He was a tobacco farmer.

James Madison's plantation, Montpelior was a tobacco plantation.

William Randolf and his family were the largest tobacco planters in the entire country.

Thomas Jefferson designed a portable writing desk at Monticello and sent copies of the design to his wife's cousin (she was a Randolf), Benjimen Randolf, a noted cabinet maker in Philadelphia. Ben made the small desk for him on which most of the Declaration of Independence was written. When he left Philadelphia, Jefferson sold the desk to John Dickinson, Governor of Delaware. In turn, his estate sold it to the family of William Gallagher of Pennsylvania, who still own it.

Jefferson stayed with relatives in Philadelphia, but others on the committee did not. Mr. Franklin loved to tipple and flirt with the ladies and wished to meet in taverns. John Adams wrote in a letter that "the City Tavern in Philadelphia is the most genteel tavern in the country". Paul Revere also frequented the City Tavern.

George Washington, Richard Henry Lee, John Randolf, and Harrison of Virginia; Alsop of New York; Chase of Maryland; and Rodney and Read of Delaware reserved the same tables there each night.

Taverns were not just bars in Colonial Times. They were the newspapers, Inns, restaurants and meeting places. If a tavern also served as a stage coach depot it was called an "Ordinary".

Might I recommend "Rum Punch & Revolution, tavern going and public life in 18th century Philadelphia, by Peter Thompson published 1999 by University of Pennsylvania Press.

Taverns and Drinking in Early America by Sharon V. Salinger, 2002 by John Hopkins Press.

You might also wish to check with the Historical Society of Philadelphia at http://www.hsp.org/

Residents of Detroit make automobiles. Virginians make history.
dawg

PS...It is a long held business axiom that "the customer is always right". Only in this thread have I heard the arguement, "the government is always right".


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