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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TrumanCoyote:
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Originally posted by Pattycakes:
[b] Again, you just can't see what this is all about. This is not about public property, as in tax funded.</font>


Oh, my. I know EXACTLY what it is about. You seem to be under the illusion that the government cannot regulate what happens in a provate establishment. My post simply informs that you are wrong. the government regulates many, many things in private businesses. Smoking is just another one of them.

This issue is about the rights of one group clashing with the rights of another group. It is that simple. You want the right to smoke...not just in your home, your yard, or your car. You want the right to smoke near where I am sitting. Sorry. You lose.


This notion the public has the inherent right to go anywhere at anytime and bestow their higher morality is nonsense.

Okay. But the notion that a person has the inherent right to go anywhere, anytime and force others to inhale their smoke is not nonsense? Yikes. And who said anything about morality. Does anyone here think it is immoral to smoke? Foolish, yes. Immoral, no.

Everything you mention above (paying slave wages/illegal dumping, etc.) is going on as much today as ever before ...

You can't really believe that. Oh, God. Maybe you do.

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The government should have the right to regulate things related to the purpose of the business itself, to insure things are done with reasonable safety, it steps over the line when it tells one they can't smoke on their on property. That's not pertaining to the essence of the business, that's a right afforded to us in the constitution, the right of choice. No one has to blow smoke in your face if you don't want them too, simply give your business to an establishment which doesn't allow smoking. What right do you have to walk in establishment and tell the owner, "Hey listen, no more smoking in this place, yeah, I know YOU OWN IT and I know IT'S LEGAL, but I don't like it!" Well, that's exactly what the government has done and it's not right. These are places of entertainment, where people can chose to go or not to go. You say (quite cocky I might add) that, I LOSE! no, my uninformed friend, if you are an American, you lose too.


Your last bit of sarcasm is very telling. Yes, I do believe it, and yes, it is fact. If you think otherwise, you are very naive.