Originally Posted by IronKnee
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Originally Posted by E Swartz
Fde,

There aren't the volume of active members within the MP3/Lyric forums of the previous decade for sure. I used to offer much more constructive crits and my opinions for sure as did many others. In the long run what happens is you become "songwriter acquaintances/friends" and it just doesn't feel good to get that serious or worth the sometimes "flak" you get back. Real critics don't care about flak I suppose. I've certainly mellowed a bit about crits, but still do offer a few--not that I'm any expert however.

But Tom's song has interesting lyrics for me and his vocals always individual/distinct and REAL--sure a little melodyne hear and there could be beneficial, or maybe backing off (automation) the volume of the rhythm picking during the guitar solo. Most "original track songs" around here could be better arranged and use professional musicians/vox. But Tom's raw artistic talent shines through for me--even if I didn't like the song......I enjoy listening to "good raw" better than "highly produced boring" -- just say'n & JMO.

Tom's music style and vocal delivery remind me of a couple past posters--Mr. Nelson & Bobbie Wayne.

steady-eddie


I totally see where your coming from. Its totally childish for somebody to retaliate in a negative way. I don't mind critiques so long as they are not powered by animosity, hatred, exclusionism.

Like Marty has threatened to give me his brutal critiques.

Yeah, but nobody is searching for in depth critique. But it's pretty obvious somebody did not like a song. If they say pleasant somg, pleasant melody.

Hey everybody let's have a party, bring music that has pleasant melodies.!!!!!!

It's one thing if you simply don't know...

But it's true, there's not enough people, and too many old people who have one kind of song they understand.

It's a problem. But why would some body work hard in a song, producing however they do, just to hear..
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Pleasant melody. The truth is they dint really think it's any good

They expect more from their songs when they post.

Nudging people to get better, Marty wants no part of that.

He'd rather post a song, hide the lyrics, make a video with it, before anyone even gets a chance to take it in.

At that point what do you say? Pleasant song, I think?

This is not a music audience. Not real listeners. It's a songwriting site, for people who do the same

I have to admit, there are songs here, and on other sites, I just simply don't like. If there is something to suggest, I do... if not, I try to be uplifting.
I love to listen to real music by real people. i don't like AI productions, in any way. I'd rather look at real gems imbedded into rock, than to look at cubic zirconia.
I missed this post.

Consider this though (no REM pun)

The human brain is a computer, less efficient than machines in some ways maybe intuition, it's better.

But music dies not come from the sky, it comes from the brain.

Every song one has ever listened to is stored in your brains computer. When you write music, play a guitar solo, etc, you are drawing from your brains computer, and re organizing it, into something you believe to be original.

Of all the thousands of songs here, how many are borrowing something they heard... Like 100%

In order for music to be recognized as music, it must be based on the past. Otherwise
It would sound crazy.

The people who we call "good" are better at recall, and pulling something out of seemingly nowhere, when it's not out of nowhere.

The problem now is anybody and everybody has access to the same musical brain, with less processing needed.

In the end the people who were always better, will still find a way to be better. Subjectivity and all ..

The other thing Is you say you like listening to real music.. not computers.

How will you know? You know here cause it's said up front, and we know who's using cause, so and so is not a girl.

But if you turned on the radio and a song done by Ai was on, you may not know. If you do, it won't be long before it's indistinguishable .

So it may come to the point where either we adapt or become dinosaurs

I look forward to doing so where I have control of it...or more precise control.

I think even now we have control of it by making it do it over and over till we find what we like.

This all applies to lyrics too, but I haven't really seen a. Interesting lyrics from ai, it's more comical than serious. But that's gonna get better too

Last edited by Fdemetrio; 05/22/25 09:32 AM.