FD,

There are liberal and conservative ideologies that have existed from the time we are born, sure, and may, as you say, exist eternally beyond time, hell why not, but I believe most everyday folks choose candidates based on their own personal stances on issues that matter to them, not because they "belong to one group or another."

It seemed like you based your generalization that "our mindsets are usually cut out for us before we even adopt them." --based on a sampling of 8 songwriters over 60 who belong to the same club and then one of them didn't fit and you ignored that at first--too small a sampling for a legitimate poll.

I mean, I walked out my front door and saw..

10 Catholic caregivers, liberal but anti-abortion
2 Feminist police officers, pro-abortion but against the wall
3 men from El Paso, for the wall but quite liberal
An anti-gun rally, sponsored by conservatives

and its a hard..hard...hard--oh it's a hard rain gonna fall...

Point is..if you think life, and important things that happen in our life don't inform our opinions, you haven't proved it to me yet. You have only asserted that idealogical beliefs exist, outside of time, just like the concept of love. That is an interesting thing to consider. But I think at the practical level, most folks are not political scientists and choose candidates that embody their stances on a constellation of issues that matter to them. Otherwise why listen to them debate?

One thing I think we can agree on:

Anyone that does form their opinion on something only after seeing what a CNN or a FOX news has to say is pretty pathetic!

Though I imagine few would admit to that, and many more would feel insulted.


Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 09/25/19 01:42 PM.
Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice
Fortune depends on the tone of your voice

-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon)
from the song "Songs of Love"
from the album "Casanova" (1996)