Originally Posted by couchgrouch
Sue, I agree. I don't litter, I treat animals kindly, I drive a fuel efficient car.

But it's been my observation that people in power pushing CLIMATE CHANGE are, frankly, crazy. Now they're senators, congressmen and governors of states fast becoming hell holes. But there's a chance they'll obtain more power. Those people having control of my life...that scares me more than any hurricane.

AOC is a loon, so is Kamala Harris, Beto, senile Biden, Woke-a-hontas and the whole bunch. And I say this as someone who's never voted and tended to lean left until several years ago.

Those people are nuttier than Bernie's morning constitutional and I'm immediately suspicious of anything they teach, especially when they want my money to pay for it.


As I've said before, focus on the science. Ignore Bernie and AOC and read the science.

I believe, based on my research, that global warming is real. Worse than that - it's now a recovery rather than a rescue operation. It's too late to fix it - all we can do now is mitigate it. Wish I was more optimistic but the earth has a lot of inertia and it's built up momentum for change. Even if we remove CO2 from the air, the oceans have stored so much that they'll simply begin emitting it back to the atmosphere. We're already screwed - the only question is how badly.

At the same time, I believe that a lot of the green new deal is hogwash - an attempt by the far left to fold the real problem of global warming into their agenda. You are smart not to fall for it - but don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

There are things we can do that shouldn't trample anyone's freedom or rights. We can bring nuclear back - yes it has issues but global warming isn't one of them. We can plant more trees. We can remove subsidies from oil companies and give them to solar and renewables. We can give tax credits to power plants who capture CO2 instead of emitting it. Most of these things would have very little effect on John Q but could make a difference to the planet. Remember that for every nutcase on the left there is one on the right who is perfectly happy with the way things are - because they are making money ass over teakettle.

One thing I am sure of is that we won't get anywhere until we lose this stupid tribalism and think rationally about issues. This isn't directed to you, Grouch - it's just a general observation.....

Scott