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Howdy, folks. Just indulging in some weekend fun here. Since Stan has his QSOs, I'll christen this one my first official GAL (Girl's Attitude Lyric). [Linked Image] Please tell me what you think of it. Thanks!

P.S.: I threw out a stanza in verse 2 and replaced it, but I included it here anyway. If you like it better, feel free to put it in in place of the stanza I ended up using. [Linked Image]


FROM B TO Z
©2002 Anthony Torres
All rights reserved

(Verse 1)
A is for attention that wanders
and for affection you hafta fake
A is for adoration... yeah, right!
and amends you almost never make
A is for your amour, monsieur
which is tres petit to this cheri
A is for ass-kissin’, pardon my French,
which you do for friends, but not for me

(Chorus)
You say you know everything ‘bout love
and y’know, I totally agree
‘cause you sure know everything from B to Z

(Verse 2)
B is for bitchin’ and complainin’
Well, then I guess C is covered too
D is for drinking past 2 a.m.
E is for your excuses when you do

F is for the fling you had last year
G is for that garter I can’t forget
H is for the hell you put me through, and
I think the other letters are worse yet

(Chorus)

(Bridge)
Boy, you alphabet-ter clean up your act
‘cause FYI, my bags are almost packed
You’re a dic....tionary of bad behavior
and I’ll cut yours short if you don’t say you’re--

(Chorus)
fine ‘cause you know everything ‘bout love
‘cause y’know, I totally agree
Yeah, you sure know everything from B to Z

(Tag)
Yeah, you sure know everything from B to Z
Yeah, you sure know everything.....
from B... to... Z!


(Alternate second stanza for verse 2)
X is for those X-rated strip clubs
Y is for the younger chicks you’ve had
Z is for a zipper that won’t stay closed
and F to W are just as bad


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Hi Anthony,
This was hilarious!!!!! Lots of great lines, especially the bridge! Guess you would need the last stanza because you said B-Z, but I think some would get awful tired after about J or K LOL

I saw a typo "but not (for) me"

You do 'tude well amigo
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HI Anth'!

Laughed MY "A" Off readin' This'n'...

I'll get back to ya Tomorrow when the Multiple Zin's have Worn Off--No Nits I can Think Of at the Moment!

"KUDOS" & Thanks for a Nice Laugh at the End of a Fun, Busy Day!
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Hi Anthony, I like it. I agree with Elizabeth, working thru all the letters is too lengthy. Maybe somting like "just to mention a few." Keep writing and posting.

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I'm sorry but god, this was terrible.

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Hi Anthony,
Disagree with coach, you have a lots of good lines to work with. Keep on it you have a good lyric working here. JMO

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I'll be back later to critique this FUN lyric, Anth, but at the moment, I feel compelled to respond to Mr. Pomposity: Couch, you always act as though you are bushwhacked after a critique, like you don't deserve the personal attack you receive after commenting on a lyric. You are always STUPIfied and DUMBfounded when folks call you things like a "pompous a$$" or a "tactless b*stard"... Oh, sorry, maybe you didn't know they called you that. [Linked Image] But for the love of God, Robert, TAKE A FRIGGIN LOOK AT WHAT YOU JUST SAID and THEN tell us you don't deserve those labels.

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Hi Anthony.....

This is cute, and I got a laugh from it [Linked Image] I like to laugh, so thank you. [Linked Image] I'm not sure how commercial this would be, since it seems to me any gal that sang this would fit her own definition of "B and C". However....for a fun read...it sure did the job.



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Hi Anthony,
Well not to defend Couch, because he usually defends himself anyway, But I know you like real opinions here. And Anth, I have to say this is the worst I've seen from you in a long time.
It may indeed have a few good lines,But I couldn't get a rhythmic flow most of it.
I onyl read through the first verse and chorus last night, (and left).
It's just hard to see this being sung by anyone but a B**** (in which case who cares about her opinion?)
Sorry to be blunt (don't label me a Couch-wanna-be)
But I know you can do much better

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Boy, did I just enjoy reading all of today's critiques! Wow. I best get replyin'!

Ria-- Thanks for pointing out my dumb typo. I fixed it right away. And yeah, there's sure no way I can do all 26 letters, nor would I want to. Thanks for the visit.

Stan-- No offense towards anyone else, but I think your critique is the most important to me, since a fun lyric like this is more or less up your alley. I'm glad you like it, but who knows? Maybe that was just those zins talkin'. [Linked Image] Thanks for stopping by!

Jim-- Thanks for the visit. I tried two approaches to cutting the letters short already. I like the one I used best, with the "I" in it appearing after the H sentence. I appreciate you dropping in.

couch-- LOL! Literally! But, at the risk of becoming another flame war, I wish you would elaborate on your one-line critique. Aren't the bridge, the "I" line and the "pardon my French" one line after some actual French just the least bit funny or clever? Geez.... some people. [Linked Image] I'm always glad when you stop in, though.

Bill-- Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it. [Linked Image]

Tink-- Thanks for the preliminary kind words. I share your sentiments. I don't think couch means to be mean, though-- he just doesn't care enough to give a full critique, which is almost as offensive a policy anyway. I mean, if someone likes something and they want to give a one-line critique, that's fine, but if they don't like it and others do, I think an explanation is owed. Anyway, thanks for stopping by and I hope to see you again. [Linked Image]

Sunny-- Unfortunately, this is too edgy and racy to be commercial. "B to Z" is a cheesy idea, anyway-- it's one step away from a dreaded pun hook. [Linked Image] So I just decided to have some quick fun with it. I'm glad you like it. Thanks for the visit!

And Harriet-- For my "worst in a long time", I hereby refer you to "We All Need A Hand", which I posted a couple weeks ago. [Linked Image] To the contrary, I think this one is a lotta fun. It's got a mean edge to it, yeah, but I think the humor (or attempted humor, as you would see it) takes the edge off well.
You could be right about the lack of rhythmic flow. I didn't smooth this out much before posting it, but when I do smooth things out, I get guys like Graham telling me I should fudge a bit on sillybillies, so who knows. [Linked Image] This lyric isn't your cup of tea, and that's fine. I'd be a lot more disappointed in myself if you gave this critique on a serious lyric of mine. Thanks for stopping in!

BTW, this was unintentional, but it might be interesting to point out that I posted a song with a 25-letter alphabet on (in the U.S., anyway) a 23-hour day. [Linked Image]

Thanks for all the replies. Keep 'em comin'!

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Hi Anthony,
This song did exactly what you intended. I am still smiling and.... I want to know where you met my ex...just kidding. It was alot of fun to read.
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Anth and Tink....

just one thing...if couch didn't like Anthony, he wouldn't even read his posts...much less comment from time to time.

You just gotta take him with a pound of salt.

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No, this song was about MY EX!

No, probably not very commercial, but a fun read. Not sure how well it would fit to music either, but again, it was funny as hell!

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Tony-- LOL.... that lyric of yours I critiqued yesterday was nearly nit-free, so I'm really glad you like this one. Thanks for the visit.

dawg-- That's food for thought. I hope you're right about that. Any thoughts on this lyric, though....?

Blake-- Since you write a lot of fun lyrics yourself, your kind words are great to hear. Thanks for stopping by. [Linked Image]

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"A is for ass-kissin’, pardon my French,
which you do for friends, but not for me"

LOL!!! Sounds like my brother-in-law!!! (Hope he doesn't lurk in these parts...)

I thought this lyric was a LOT of fun!! And what made it all the more fun is that it is so out of character for the Anthony we all know and love! [Linked Image]

I thought the french stuff in the first verse was quite clever and very witty also!!

I enjoyed all of this!!
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OK Anthony,
It sounds as though you don't think that this is worth further development. I disagree.
I love how you said that he knows all about all the letters except the one that counts. Attention, Adoration, Amour, Affection,etc.
I also like the way you accounted for all the other letters with the line;
I think the other letters are worse yet

Please don't just "blow this one off."
For what it's worth,
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Hi Anthony...This may not be my type of lyric, but it IS well written in my opinion. Heck, I sometimes write songs that are not my norm too. I think we all do that from time to time. Anyway, back to your song, you have some very creative lines here and the whole lyric shows a lot of creativity, which I think any songwriter can and should appreciate!

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Hi Anthony

I enjoyed reading it, and all the replies,I think you have a good story going here keep at it...and I love the bridge :-)

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Hey Junior...

Whatcha got here in my opinion is alot of clever little stuff..but I'll tell you one thing..It's about as singable as the ingredients menu on a bottle of Snapple !

I never get into syallable counting or any of that stuff usually because as a singer I know how that can be fixed up..but this is really herky-jerky feeling to the point where I couldn't get a rhythm going at all..I think it's word choice that makes it feel so clunky..good ideas described with clunky words I guess...Lotta work for you on this one..I would agree tho...that what ya got here is a real cute idea worth working on..lots of clever bits that need some tying together..

Get that pencil (and eraser) sharpened !

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you invited me back soooo...this is a lyric critique board and this doesn't resemble a lyric at all. I can't see how anyone could sing it. I can't read straight through it. as for the writing itself, it's really bad Anthony. I'm sorry but it's true. those puns are painful...not as painful as...as...Bealestreetabub, but they're still bad. dic-tionary is deserving of jailtime.

that new one you posted today is in lyric form but the hook is kinda dull and it needs one good line or at least an interesting theme. that's kind of my catch-all critique but it's true for most of what I read. of course if you have good music, how it reads doesn't matter. take care. [Linked Image]

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Anthony, I got pulled in here due to the controversial disagreement of the lyricalability of these words you've put together. Rap would be the only genre that I can even think of might work, but then rap is all rhythm, so that wouldn't work either. Hard rock would fit the "tone" due to the attitude and controversial words.
I expect you'll find this to be a rewriter at the very least.
I can see where some would think it's "cute" esp. those who've been through relationships that this defines, but I think too, that it would be hard to find that just any artist would sing it, except those who typically do their best in such language.
Best wishes on the rewrite...may this take shape in a better form.

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Just catchin' up a bit here......

Tink-- Merci beaucoup for the return visit and the kind words. How many of these kinda lyrics would I have to do for them to be out of character??? [Linked Image]

Bill-- I'm glad ya like this one. It's not that I'm blowing it off. I just thought that it was fine the way it was. But couch and Bob have said it's not very singable, and they've got a point there. Singability isn't the be-all and end-all of a song, though, so I dunno how drastically I'll change this if I do a rewrite. Anyway, thanks for liking the idea of this one. I appreciate it.

Tim-- Thanks for the visit and the kind words. Both are well appreciated. [Linked Image]

And SongMom-- Yeah, the replies are even more entertaining than the lyric! Thank you for dropping by.

More later today.......

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Read this before Anthony and didn't rate it worth commenting on. Now i find it's got 21 comments so thought I would come and see if you had done anything to it to make it worth a read.
Nope.
See it was mentioned as a rap possible. Add a C up front and you got the genre.
I'm with the cooch camp here Cobber.
Sheesh. And i could have spent that time on something with potential too.
Even A You're Adorable. B, You'r So Beautiful, made some attempt to give all the letters a mention. This one cops out.
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Anth...

I gotta ask ya', after 38 years on stage singing and mumbling every kind of song in every kind of style from words of eloquence immeasurable to " Louie Louie" if "singability" isn't the be all and end all of lyrics..then what in the world is ?

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Anthony, with all due respect..... think about what you said... so if we walk into the Sistine Chapel, you're gonna' notice the furniture first? Singability of the 'lyrics' aren't all to a song? From a self admitted lyricist? Who doesn't play? Not! Unless you're say, someone like Larry Carlton and can 'entertain' me with a melody that 'sings itself,' someone better be singing good lyrics with exceptional phrasing, within the tempo of the song. Or mirrored if you will. Uptempo sometimes demands and can certainly withstand lotsa' words. "Tried to give you consolation, when you're old man had let you down!" vs... "Sail on silver bird, sail on by.."

And along those lines, I have seen better songs you wrote, that you disliked yourself. No nits, wake up Anth... ps... I like you're 'serious' songs moreso than this type. I realize that's worth nothing, but you write serious better to me. Good idea, needs solidifying. Maybe it's "too" big "a" thought for a song. ??

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Is it possible to *un*post a lyric??? Man oh man..... well, back to the replies.

Bob-- "Good ideas described with clunky words"? Well, probably. But I tell ya what, though-- I just sung this to myself, and except for a couple of hitches where I need to drop a syllable, it sang okay! You'll hafta trust me on that one.

Now about the importance of singability,

I love youuuuu
You love me toooo
But why do you leave meeee
so sad and bluuuuue

is pretty gosh-darn singable. So singability is only part of the equation. I'm sure you'd agree with that anyway. But as dumb as the following statement may seem, I don't really write lyrics to be sung along with. I just write 'em to be listened to. As long as the singer can sing the lines without tripping over himself or under-enuciating, I can abide a little clunkiness here and there.

There's two songs I've been listening to in recent days that I challenge *any*one to sing-- "Cobwebs" by Loudon Wainwright III and "'Long Come A Viper" by Dan Hicks and His Hot Licks. But damn, are they good songs. So music is a big part of it, I think. But the fact that Loudon and Dan are somewhat obscure might've undermined my whole point, I dunno. My bottom line is, I can *sing* this g**d*** lyric! (But does it need tweaking? Um, yes. [Linked Image] )

couch-- I'll only say this: it's ironic that you, who has gotten "this is more like a poem" in response to his lyrics 10 times more than anyone else here, should say that this doesn't resemble a lyric. But thanks for clarifying your earlier review, as well as your kind comments ("it's in lyric form"-- if that's not a compliment, I don't know what is) on my other lyric.

Sharon-- See above. [Linked Image] I can sing this myself, but yeah, it does need tweaking. Thanks for stopping by.

Graham-- Your critique reminds me of the old one-liner, "The food is so terrible here. And such small portions!" [Linked Image] So you're saying you hate this lyric, but that I should've included every letter of the alphabet? Oooohkay. I'll tell ya somethin', Graham-- I will never never EVER figure you out as long as I live. IMO, this lyric, singable or not, is more interesting and clever than any racy lyric I've ever read of yours. If you think this one is crap, then I don't know why you don't think the same of yours. But thank you as always (honest!) for stopping in.

And lastly, Bill-- I do think I write serious lyrics better than I do lighter ones. I've got more practice with serious ones. And at least you like my bad serious lyrics more than I do. [Linked Image] All I can tell you is what I already told Bob and Sharon-- I can sing this one. Yeah, it's not the easiest lyric to sing, but I'd rather use the perfect word that's a little tough to sing than an imperfect one that's easy to sing. Maybe that's just me. Anyway, thanks for the visit.

WHEW!!! I'm done. This was a reply of Curtis-Cameronian proportions! [Linked Image]

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Well Anthony. maybe that tucker wouldn't be so bad if the cook used some a bit of imaginatio, a few herbs and spices, and trimmed the fat and crap away. A biyt like was recently done to one of your lyrics that ddin't chew too well until the cook got to stiring it.
And if I payn for a meal good or bad, I expect it to fill me.
Racey???? Why compare this to any of my racy lyrics Anthony?
This isn't racey.
If it is supposed to be, I rest my case.
And really Anthony. You and I both know Never is a big word.
Keep trying Anthony. I assure you I am still trying to figure you out.
The amount of time you have stuffed the fact most of my song bits don't match the previous ones, and just recently you did a not too bad one at all, that was, if I remember your meaning right. an excersise in being different. from what you claimed all the lyrics we mill out here AABCB or something. You and your left right left right, that square goes there style had finally found a bit of real style.
I was so happy for you Fair Dinkum
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Hey, Graham. I've calmed down some now. [Linked Image] This lyric is only racy (perhaps "dirty" is a better word) in the last two lines of the bridge. Plus, "ass-kissin" and "bitchin" bumped into down to rated PG-13 status. (That's a medium movie rating in the U.S.)

I wish I knew which lyric of mine you're talking about that was different. Is it "I Wrote This Song Myself"? I think that's the best one I've written in the last few weeks.

And hey, I'm glad you can't figure me out either. I'd be nervous if you had me totally figured out, but I couldn't figure you out at all! [Linked Image]

Anyway, thanks for the reply. I'll always appreciate your honesty. [Linked Image]

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Anthony, people say my stuff resembles poetry because of its content and subject matter, not because it's totally disjointed rhythmically. and I suspect those people don't read much modern poetry anyway.

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A point that needs clarifying here is the difference between "resembling poetry" to being "poetic". "resembling poetry" should signify or connotate that there are forced rhymes and/or inverted phrases. Being "poetic" just simply means that the wordsmithing used within the writing is picturesque and defining...not necessarily considered true poetry per se.

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Good point Sharon..

I don't think I've ever used the phrase "resembles poetry" (sounds kinda negative) I would probably say "reads like poetry"..in any case I would take it to mean that the words in question are better read than sung.
One of my favorite writer/poets was Richard Brautigan..a sort of Post-Beat writer who got a big college following in the 60's and 70's. Friend of Ginsberg and Kesey and that California bunch...
I actually tried putting a few of his shorter pieces to music...didn't work very well...Ed Saunders from the Fuggs did the same thing with some poetry...didn't work for him either.

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I was gonna let this thread drop, but I'm a glutton for punishment, so once more to the replies!

couch-- IMO, your lyrics get called poetry because they're long, sometimes lack choruses and include some fifty-cent words. Whatever the reason, though, it's usually a short-sighted assessment.

Sharon-- Excellent point. I agree. Thanks for bringing it up. [Linked Image]

And Bob-- Based on what little I know about him, I'm surprised Ed Saunders has a serious bone in his body. Thanks for the info.

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Anthony, read Life Support and its comments. it doesn't fit anything you mentioned. i realize you said such comments were shortsighted but your comments are still off. length etc., has nothing to do with poetry. vocabulary can...but i rarely use "fifty cent" words. I try to use basic ideas to create interesting images, there's a difference.

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Now we've come to the place we're going to need a definition of a "fifty cent word". Is that a word that's between a "no brainer" and a "high dollar word"? I don't think any word that is fitting and descriptive for the content of any piece of writing should be judged to its' dollar value. I mean it's just like I got harassed all over the place for using some high school english word in a lyric but then we turn to "THis Kiss" and it's words are definitely more than "no brainers" esp. at the beginning. And I don't even like the song, just happen to use it to argue the point that unusual descriptive words shouldn't be forbidden in lyrical writing...though the instance it's used in should pretty well define it for the listener. But of course, JMHOP, as always.

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Lord.... guess I shouldn't have said "fifty-cent words"! [Linked Image] All I meant by that are words that are somewhat conversational, but aren't used that often in lyrics. The ones in "This Kiss" are a good example. If they make sense and meter well, then I'm all in favor of using them. I like 'em!

As for "Life Support", yeah, it's mostly the O-what-a-lovely-spring-day content that rang folks' poetry alarms on that one. But words like "morn" and "evermore" didn't help, since they're far more often used in poetry than lyrics. FWIW, I thought it was pretty solid lyric that's ill-served by its hook. I try to keep up with your stuff, and "Funeral in the Fog" gets my vote for your best recent lyric.

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Hmm. I'm new to this forum, so I don't know the history that may be behind some of the comments I just read on this set of lyrics, but...here's my two cents:

These lyrics are funny and very obviously tongue-in-cheek. The concept is a new take on an old story, sure, but welcome to songwriting these days. I like the setup of the verses (first verse all the things he doesn't do; the rest all the things he does); I think that reinforces the hook.

As far as singability goes, maybe it's just me, but I had a little melody and rhythm going in my head for this the whole time and could easily see these lyrics taken several different ways musically. Yeah, they're not going to have a whole lot of poetic flow, but that really wouldn't suit the tone of the piece, either. Also, maybe this song wouldn't be a huge commercial success, which is debatable in my book, but I could very much see it being a popular live number - in my experience, this is the kind of thing audiences eat up.

As a songwriter, I like the lyrics and would have music pounded out in about ten minutes (give or take). As a singer, I like the lyrics and would absolutely love to use this piece in a live show. I don't know that there are many songs posted in this kind of forum where that would be true, serious, silly, or otherwise. Just my opinion, though.

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Damn, Tari! Where ya been all my life?!? Thanks for all the kind, well-spoken words. I'm glad it looks like you take this songwriting stuff seriously. I agree with what you say about this lyric, and if you *can* put to music to it and you truly want to, pleasepleasePLEASE be my guest and do it. That might silence a few critics around here.... [Linked Image]

Again, thanks for the kind words, and welcome to the board! [Linked Image]

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LOL Anthony.
I came in to see how this was progressing and just read your last comment.
Love it when one opinion can convince someone their job is done.
You don't really want your critics to be silent do you?
After all. If my memory serves me right, every one of your lyrics that made it to music has the footprints of said critics and composer's licience all over it.
That is what we critique for. To make our stuff as good as we can get it.
Welcome to the forum Tari.
I hope you can get this swinging.
Will be surprised if it will be one of my favourite songs ever but live and learn always applies and the instrumental version could be good.
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I can always count on you to knock me down a peg, Graham. [Linked Image] Why, in fact, *yes*, it just takes one critic to convince me that my job is done (or almost done, as the case may be), cuz if that one person can hear music for this one, then who am I to argue? Especially since I can sing it too. But hell no, of course I don't want any critics on this board to be silent. I know you don't care for this lyric, but I'm glad that someone who plays music finally does, that's all.

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If I made you ask yourself, "Am I really saying what I mean?" then my job is done too Anthony.
Job satisfaction is the sweetest reward.
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AHHHH JUnior...

Graham gotcha good....Guess you're human like all of us...what you should be doing is shrugging your shoulders..kind of looking askance and saying things like...oh...well....you know......
Laughing my ass off...welcome to the club Anth...one more artist that will fall over in aswoon when somebody (even an unknown) will totally agree with us....Gee...what if it's a guy...ya never know Anth...it is the Internet after all...That's it...it's a guy that heard about the TV thing and is thinking ya still got some of that money....
Can't be be because of your writing..Hell..we all know that's not worth a damn !

I hope you're laughing at this...I wish I could be there with you..then I'd really let you have it !

Loved the part about how she (he maybe) takes the music seriously..Well gee..She (he) thinks you're great...of course she takes it seriously. !!!

Well....good luck !
I thought this lyric was kinda cute too...
Course I'm not gonna gush like your new fan..but that's not my style !

AAAhhhhhhh...this is fun !

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I read the lyric, and the first few responses, but NOT the whole string (who has THAT much 'free' time???) but there was ONE comment I feel I want to make beyond the obviuos yes-it's-cute, nice job... and that is this:
Do you really really expect ANYONE to sing a song that s-u-g-g-e-s-t-s that you will CUT A MAN'S DICK OFF/SHORT if he does something that displeases you? Really now? WHO would sing such a song? And would you REALLY just sit by and post a smiley-critique if I or someone else wrote a song that included a line or two about Cutting a Woman's TITS OFF or
glueing her hole shut if she displeased her man?
NOT trying to start anything, but you posted the lyric, so there's my (angry) response...
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Hey, Bob. Read your post. Sorry if you think I'm gushing like a schoolgirl at an N'Sync concert. I certainly didn't mean to make such a laughable critique. As I said, I'm new to this forum, and I'm not sure what the standards are like. I just read some lyrics and gave my honest opinion of them.

I'm not sure what credentials and experience you and everyone else who posts here bring to the table, and I certainly wouldn't claim to be a "great" songwriter, but I think that my opinion has just as much merit as yours does. I do have a fair amount of performing experience, and that experience led me to the conclusion I outlined above.

Further, I think it unfair to chastise a writer for taking a critique at face value. Shouldn't this forum be a place where we can all share our lyrics and get honest opinions, whether bad *OR* good?

Tari

***ADDENDUM***Quite sorry I took a joke personally. As I said, I don't know the history here and haven't had time to catch up yet. Please accept my apologies for going overboard.

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Yep. Every honest opinion is good Tan.
Say what you mean and mean what you say in both work and critique is the only way to do it.
And clarify if ya saisd it worng.
Face value is all we can do as we can't see each other's eyes to read 'em better.
Bob's little joke ws in referance toa bit of board history Anthony may like to tell yo about. We all (well some of us)pick on him about it from time to time. He'll be laughing I think.
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Ahhh thanks Graham...

But actually...I think the jig is up !

Tari has spotted me for the cruel vicious insensitive bastard I areally am !

We Chicagoans are just alot smarter than the rest of you poor folk I guess...

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Well Thanks for fessin' up Bob.
Bit late but better than almost never.
Now i gotta go tell my listeners and your growing fan club down here you really ain't the sweet old blues bloke who will search the world just to bring a warble of joy outta a little kid's heart I took you for.
Bugger.
I hate saying i am sorry almost as much as I hate adding numbers to dumb strings.
Mostly when it ain't one of mine.
Thanks fro the honesty Bob. When I play your stuff now I will turn the volume down so on;y half the block can hear it.


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.....and thus, another Anthony lyric inexplicably gets a second life. [Linked Image]

Boy, just when I had written this lyric off as an interesting failure (which it may still be anyway), this thread bobs back up to the surface. Back to the replies I go! [Linked Image]

Bob-- I wouldn't say that Graham "got me good." The embarrassing truth be told, I thought this was a pretty neat lyric when I posted it. Little did I know that it was a dialobical device meant to mangle the mouths of seasoned singers. [Linked Image] I'll take everything you say in good fun as long as you're admitting you've been unduly swept away by someone's praise yourself.... which I do believe you said you were, so everything's cool. [Linked Image] Thanks for stopping in again.

SexyRexy-- You make an interesting point! LOL. I'd never thought of that before. The truth is, though, there's a big double standard when it comes to penile amputation in lyric versus lopping off of female parts. John Wayne Bobbitt is kinda laughed at in American sub-society, whereas a woman in a similar situation would be looked at completely seriously. So yeah, I think there's a little room for threats of penile amputation in songs, but not much. Thanks for stopping by.

Tari-- Thanks for stopping in again. Little did you know, but you were arguing with someone who's been performing since the Beatles first met Ed Sullivan. Why, the guy is ancient-- we're talking *56* years old!!! (I'm sorry, Bob. [Linked Image] ) It's the truth, though, and because of that, I do take his critiques very seriously. That's not to say that yours aren't well-appreciated too, though. Why, witness the return gush a few posts above. [Linked Image] Thanks again for dropping in.

And Graham-- If the board history has anything to do with my and my girlfriend being on "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" last year, then, well, now Tari knows. [Linked Image] If there's any other board history afoot, I'm not immediately aware of it, though I'm sure it's something or another. Thanks for the return visit(s).

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Omigod...I have been at it since the Beatles were on Ed Sullivan.....

I better go lie down !

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LOL!!! But seriously-- I think you owe all your fans here (and I include myself among them!) a short recap of your music career. The one on your website (www.bobyoung.com [Linked Image] ) just don't cut it. I know you'll just laugh this off with some funny comment, but I'm serious! Inquiring minds want to know. [Linked Image]

Anthony

P.S.: You had said you'd been playing for 40 years, which places your start at 1962, so I was cuttin' you a break! [Linked Image]

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Is this the part where I say how much I respect my elders?

Seriously, sorry for all the drama, guys, and please don't hold my foot-in-mouth syndrome against me. In future, I'll err on the side of assuming you're all full of piss and wind. [Linked Image]

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