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lol - not autobiographical. Just wrote it as a warning to myself to not become too cynical. smile

Not my normal kind of thing - have no idea whether it's worth anything or not. All comments welcomed!

Song is called "Sunny" and is here:

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Here's the lyric. Thanks!

Scott


Sunny
(c) 2008 by S.W. Campbell

Sunny, won’t you shine your light tonight?
Ain’t it funny, how the darkest hours creep by?

Sunny, you’d see angels’ work wherever you went
When I’d see only luck and coincidence
Sunny, you’d see miracles in bright shining eyes
Where I’d look deeper for the lies, and alibis

Sunny, won’t you shine your light tonight?
Ain’t it funny, how the darkest hours creep by?

Sunny, you used to say that we were the perfect blend
We both had our roles to play, I held up my end
Sunny you’d see beauty in the darkening skies
I guess one day you realized, it came with a price

Sunny, won’t you shine your light tonight?

Oh Sunny I used to think you’d need someone
To keep you grounded but you don’t
Oh Sunny if I thought that I’d get by without someone
To raise me up, I won’t

Sunny, won’t you shine your light tonight?
Ain’t it funny, how the darkest hours creep by?
Sunny, won’t you shine your light tonight?

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Aha, I knew you were working on something... you gotta love the eternal optimist.. Love how you named him Sunny smile


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Man Scott,
Even with this sparse rhythm section backing it this sounds great. Simon and Garfunkle or Crosby, Stills and Nash on the harmonies. Catchy and beautiful melody. I'd love to hear a more comprehensive treatment musically to add on top of what you already have here. The piano is really nice. I think you could layer some other instruments on top without having to record anything else over again. Just an acoustic guitar or two with some more proper sounding drums and of course some bass to fill in the bottom and give it somewhat more of a solid beat. My kind of music. Definately worth something, Pal. One of the best I've heard in raw form. The organ just came in and I like that. Third time I've listened now. Keep what you've got and add to it Scott. I love it, absolutely.

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Steve


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Hi, Scott.

I like the bridge a lot. Chorus is fine and I like your singing and your harmonies.

I think the melody of the verse needs a little more work. Some of the syllabic inflections don't quite fit the melody as well as they could and in the last line of each verse, I think a more dynamic melodic statement would be more effective.

Take care and good luck to you.








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My ears are still pretty clogged up, so I won't do an in-depth review yet. Of course, I liked it as is. I'll come back and do more listening and commenting in a couple of days.

My only "negative" first thought on this one was that the piano might be a little "over-used" here. Maybe a little more sparseness would fit in better.

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Hi Scott,

Nice one. Some of the harmonies sounded like the Grateful Dead. Killer chorus too. We could all use a little more sun in our lives, eh?

Ricki

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Hi Scott,

I think this is my favorite from you. Have you heard the song "Sunny", done by Marvin Gaye in 1966? If you haven't, it's well worth googling for a listen. I pictured your Sunny as a woman, but whadda I know. I really like the harmonies and the message. I'm the eternal optimist.Good luck with this one.


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Hey Scott,

Haven't been on MP3 in a day or two, but this title in the What's Going On box caught my eye -- how could I not come listen?

Ultimately, I am so glad I did...though my immediate reaction was to start to cry. Silly, huh? Just one of those emotional days I guess, and the truth of the lyric and purity of the harmonies caught me off guard. blush

I have to say, Scott -- as much as I enjoy yucking it up here with some of my partners in crime -- I'm jealous! To be able to use the language in such a moving way.... to evoke such rich feelings...you have a special gift.

I'm delighted that simultaneously you have a keen sense of humor.

So good luck with this one, it's terrific.

Ciao for now,
Beth Gooberhead


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First time posting here and thought I would say what a great song you have created. Teriffic!

Thanks...
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a very uplifting song, those one word hooks stick in your brain like a nail in a car tyre, they effect the efficiency somewhat, i'll be singing 'SUNNY' then trying to remember the rest of the lyric all day...well done and good luck with it Scott..


all the best..colin
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Good one Scott...

Especially the chorus. You mentioned it was not your norm. I would have loved for it to take another step in that direction perhaps production wise. Maybe a few things to try to make it even less you just for the sake of it smile

Take the beat out maybe, just acoustic picking with all vocal harmonies and a tad slower. Not so bouncy and friendly..
Maybe I'm off on this, could be as I am a mental case over here. smile

Great work!


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Originally Posted by Louis
Aha, I knew you were working on something... you gotta love the eternal optimist.. Love how you named him Sunny smile


Hey Louis:

Interesting. I had in mind she was a woman. But when I go back and look at the lyric, there is nothing in there that suggests it. Funny......

My wife is the eternal optimist. I work on it... smile

Thanks
Scott

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Originally Posted by Little_stevie_b
Man Scott,
Even with this sparse rhythm section backing it this sounds great. Simon and Garfunkle or Crosby, Stills and Nash on the harmonies. Catchy and beautiful melody. I'd love to hear a more comprehensive treatment musically to add on top of what you already have here. The piano is really nice. I think you could layer some other instruments on top without having to record anything else over again. Just an acoustic guitar or two with some more proper sounding drums and of course some bass to fill in the bottom and give it somewhat more of a solid beat. My kind of music. Definately worth something, Pal. One of the best I've heard in raw form. The organ just came in and I like that. Third time I've listened now. Keep what you've got and add to it Scott. I love it, absolutely.

Your Pal,

Steve


Hi Steve:

Thanks, my friend. Had a hard time deciding which way to go with this - full production or sparse production. So I did in between, which probably doesn't benefit it. Maybe I'll try a sparse one - and I'm looking forward to hearing what you did too!

Glad you like it!

Scott

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Originally Posted by Jean Bullock
Hi, Scott.

I like the bridge a lot. Chorus is fine and I like your singing and your harmonies.

I think the melody of the verse needs a little more work. Some of the syllabic inflections don't quite fit the melody as well as they could and in the last line of each verse, I think a more dynamic melodic statement would be more effective.

Take care and good luck to you.



Thanks for the suggestion, Jean. The verse melody is definitely the weakest part - first three lines are identical and the fourth just a little different. That would be the place to focus attention, alright. I'll see what I can do. Appreciate it!

Scott

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Originally Posted by Kevin Emmrich
My ears are still pretty clogged up, so I won't do an in-depth review yet. Of course, I liked it as is. I'll come back and do more listening and commenting in a couple of days.

My only "negative" first thought on this one was that the piano might be a little "over-used" here. Maybe a little more sparseness would fit in better.

Kevin


I agree with you, Kevin. What causes the over-use of the piano is that I'm not very good on it. That sounds contradictory. smile

What I mean is that I have yet to develop a "feel" for it - so I tend to play in patterns rather than leaving spaces. I'll get better with time.....

Appreciate the listen and comments!

Scott

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Originally Posted by Ricki E. Bellos
Hi Scott,

Nice one. Some of the harmonies sounded like the Grateful Dead. Killer chorus too. We could all use a little more sun in our lives, eh?

Ricki


Hah - I get my share living in Florida. Was out cutting the lawn at 8:30 this morning and it was already hot and humid. Thank God I'm a warm weather person. smile

Thanks, Ricki!

Scott

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Scott, I probably thought it was a guy, cause I know a guy named Sonny, lol..


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Originally Posted by John W. Selleck
Hi Scott,

I think this is my favorite from you. Have you heard the song "Sunny", done by Marvin Gaye in 1966? If you haven't, it's well worth googling for a listen. I pictured your Sunny as a woman, but whadda I know. I really like the harmonies and the message. I'm the eternal optimist.Good luck with this one.


Hi John:

Yeah, I've always liked that song. Didn't mind using the same title....

This one is named after a friend of ours - Sunny is her nickname and it fits her perfectly smile

Thanks - Glad you liked it!

Scott

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Originally Posted by Beth G. Williams
Hey Scott,

Haven't been on MP3 in a day or two, but this title in the What's Going On box caught my eye -- how could I not come listen?

Ultimately, I am so glad I did...though my immediate reaction was to start to cry. Silly, huh? Just one of those emotional days I guess, and the truth of the lyric and purity of the harmonies caught me off guard. blush

I have to say, Scott -- as much as I enjoy yucking it up here with some of my partners in crime -- I'm jealous! To be able to use the language in such a moving way.... to evoke such rich feelings...you have a special gift.

I'm delighted that simultaneously you have a keen sense of humor.

So good luck with this one, it's terrific.

Ciao for now,
Beth Gooberhead


You're too kind, Beth. Sorry I made you cry smile

Most of my stuff is more story oriented - I find this kind of thing much harder to write. Glad to find out it had some emotional impact anyway. smile

As I said, I wrote this as a warning to myself - I'm the logical realist and my wife is the excitable optimist. I have to tell myself sometimes (often, actually smile ) to just let go and go with her flow. grin

Appreciate it, Beth!

Scott

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Originally Posted by EdThomas
First time posting here and thought I would say what a great song you have created. Teriffic!

Thanks...
Ed Thomas




Welcome, Ed - glad you found your way here.

Is nice to hear the song worked for you. I'm honored that you made this your first post!

See ya
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Originally Posted by earthstone
a very uplifting song, those one word hooks stick in your brain like a nail in a car tyre, they effect the efficiency somewhat, i'll be singing 'SUNNY' then trying to remember the rest of the lyric all day...well done and good luck with it Scott..


Thanks Colin - glad it had some staying power for you. Really appreciate the kind words!

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Originally Posted by Mike Caro Substudio
Good one Scott...

Especially the chorus. You mentioned it was not your norm. I would have loved for it to take another step in that direction perhaps production wise. Maybe a few things to try to make it even less you just for the sake of it smile

Take the beat out maybe, just acoustic picking with all vocal harmonies and a tad slower. Not so bouncy and friendly..
Maybe I'm off on this, could be as I am a mental case over here. smile

Great work!


Thanks, Buddy!

No, I think you have a good point. I was split on how to go about this one. Maybe I'll try an alternative version with just piano, guitar and a bass part - slowed down some....

Thanks for the nudge smile

Scott

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Originally Posted by Louis
Scott, I probably thought it was a guy, cause I know a guy named Sonny, lol..


Actually that's a good point, Louis - I mean people can't see how it's spelled when they're listening to it. smile

Scott


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This is a beautiful song and the harmonies are great. I agree with earlier comment of some of the lines have sylables that don't quite fit the beats of the melody.

This song is worth the effort to polish it up. It's wonderful.


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Scott:

I enjoyed this one. Your songs are always very well put together...not much to complain about. I especially like the harmonies. I logged on here to listen to a couple of songs to get me psyched to work on one of the three songs I've started recently (and haven't gotten very far on!) Your songs (and productivity!) are an inspiration, Scott.

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Hey again, Scott,

Tears have dried, and I just wanted to come back and listen again. STILL love it.

Also, I find it at least somewhat encouraging that this type of writing doesn't come terribly easily for you. Gives the rest of us a bit of hope!

As an aside, your comment at the bottom is exsquisitely ironic....you are the logical realist -- who PLANS to be more carefree!!

Keep up the good work, Scott (and kudos to your wife for putting up with you!)

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Originally Posted by Moosesong
This is a beautiful song and the harmonies are great. I agree with earlier comment of some of the lines have sylables that don't quite fit the beats of the melody.

This song is worth the effort to polish it up. It's wonderful.


Thanks, Moose!

I think mostly its the "Sunny you always said that we were the perfect blend" line - that does have an emphasis in some odd places. I'll try to come up with an alternative.

Love your avatar grin

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Originally Posted by Mark Schuessler
Scott:

I enjoyed this one. Your songs are always very well put together...not much to complain about. I especially like the harmonies. I logged on here to listen to a couple of songs to get me psyched to work on one of the three songs I've started recently (and haven't gotten very far on!) Your songs (and productivity!) are an inspiration, Scott.

Mark


Thanks, Mark. I sure don't feel productive. I seem to come up with one song per month. As opposed to Louis, who seems to come up with one every lunch break. grin

Working out the harmonies was fun on this - glad they worked for you.

Scott

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Originally Posted by Beth G. Williams


As an aside, your comment at the bottom is exsquisitely ironic....you are the logical realist -- who PLANS to be more carefree!!

Keep up the good work, Scott (and kudos to your wife for putting up with you!)



LOL - the even better part is I didn't even realize how goofy that sounded until you pointed it out. grin

Yeah, my wife deserves kudos alright. grin

Thanks, Beth - you're a sweetheart smile

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Hi Scott

Well I like the spirit of the song and the contrast of singer to subject... Definitely like where you go melodically and I really like how the piano part chugs along like its own master but does not interfere with the lyric story line in my mind. Makes me think of Linus playing along with Snoopy's thought bubbles. I like it. smile

I see that you have a couple of thoughts on changing the vs melody and I did not notice the sameness as I listened twice so I'm thinking you don't have to do too much.

Lyrically, I thought a couple of places could smooth out.... sometimes it happens with more running through, but here I think it would work to use the same format in line one and three...

Sunny, you'd use to say that we were the perfect blend
We both had our roles to play, I held up my end
Sunny you’d see beauty in the darkening skies
I guess one day you realized, it came with a price

anyway - it's another very cool song overall - keep writing and you sure have a way with the piano for a beginner ! smile jm



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Originally Posted by Joice Marie

Lyrically, I thought a couple of places could smooth out.... sometimes it happens with more running through, but here I think it would work to use the same format in line one and three...

Sunny, you'd use to say that we were the perfect blend


Hi Joice:

Thanks!

That's the way I originally had that line - not sure why I changed it. Think I'll go back to it though - thanks for the push.

I can never get my piano playing to sound anything like I hear on other recordings - glad it worked for you in this case.... smile

Appreciate the listen, comments and suggestion!

Scott


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Scott: You took command of my tear ducts and try as I might I could not help but get misty ( as misty as you can get at work). If I was at home I might just sit down and cry.

You have a way to just wrap your words in such a beautiful melody and I felt like I was right in the song listeing and watching.

You punched through to my heart ( not an easy thing to do sometimes)

All I can do is say how beautiful the song is.

Pardon me whilst I make a cleenex run.

Back soon........Paul

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This is my favorite part of the lyric -

-Sunny, you used to say that we were the perfect blend
We both had our roles to play

I like the use of your vocals - the tone is good for the song.

Tom


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Hey Scott,

Yep, it's definitely got your trademark upon it.

It's got a great feel to it, but listening to your previous work, it somehow misses the mark.

It has some great moments, but I feel you're just going through the motions, trying to create feeling, rather than expressing it naturally in a way which you have a natural ability.

Scott, you probably think I'm being tough, but I'm not going to say "work it up". You have more depth.

Whoa, that was hard, but you know I have a great deal of respect for you as a writer. I know you'll take my opinion as only one of many. Onto the next one.....

cheers, Geoff


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Originally Posted by Paul T Wentworth
Scott: You took command of my tear ducts and try as I might I could not help but get misty ( as misty as you can get at work). If I was at home I might just sit down and cry.

You have a way to just wrap your words in such a beautiful melody and I felt like I was right in the song listeing and watching.

You punched through to my heart ( not an easy thing to do sometimes)

All I can do is say how beautiful the song is.

Pardon me whilst I make a cleenex run.

Back soon........Paul



Hi Paul:

I'm glad this one connected with you. Thanks so much!

Scott


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Originally Posted by Tom Shea


This is my favorite part of the lyric -

-Sunny, you used to say that we were the perfect blend
We both had our roles to play

I like the use of your vocals - the tone is good for the song.

Tom


Thanks, Tom.

Aside from the chorus, those were the first lines I wrote. Then sat on them for a year... grin

Scott

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Originally Posted by niteshift
It's got a great feel to it, but listening to your previous work, it somehow misses the mark.

It has some great moments, but I feel you're just going through the motions, trying to create feeling, rather than expressing it naturally in a way which you have a natural ability.

Scott, you probably think I'm being tough, but I'm not going to say "work it up". You have more depth.

Whoa, that was hard, but you know I have a great deal of respect for you as a writer. I know you'll take my opinion as only one of many. Onto the next one.....

cheers, Geoff



LOL - no worries, Geoff grin

Definitely not my normal thing - in fact I was actively trying to create a song more based on feeling than imagery....

No problem that it doesn't work for you - nothing will work for everybody - ok except maybe the Beatles grin

Will probably get back more to the other kind of stuff soon - I'll find out when the muse shows up next ... She's been pretty sporatic lately

Appreciate the honest review - If I believe someone when they say they don't like something then I also have to believe them when they say they do!

See ya,
Scott

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Am I the only one who thought she died in the bridge?

For me, this sequence...

Sunny, you used to say that we were the perfect blend
We both had our roles to play, I held up my end
Sunny you’d see beauty in the darkening skies
I guess one day you realized, it came with a price

Sunny, won’t you shine your light tonight?

Oh Sunny I used to think you’d need someone
To keep you grounded but you don’t
Oh Sunny if I thought that I’d get by without someone
To raise me up, I won’t


...broke my heart because of all the past tense going on...like the singer realizes how much he misses her optimism.

Great tune, Scott!

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Originally Posted by Scott Campbell
lol - not autobiographical. Just wrote it as a warning to myself to not become too cynical. smile

Not my normal kind of thing - have no idea whether it's worth anything or not. All comments welcomed!

Song is called "Sunny" and is here:

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6673025

Here's the lyric. Thanks!

Scott


Sunny
(c) 2008 by S.W. Campbell

Sunny, won’t you shine your light tonight?
Ain’t it funny, how the darkest hours creep by?

Sunny, you’d see angels’ work wherever you went
When I’d see only luck and coincidence
Sunny, you’d see miracles in bright shining eyes
Where I’d look deeper for the lies, and alibis

Sunny, won’t you shine your light tonight?
Ain’t it funny, how the darkest hours creep by?

Sunny, you used to say that we were the perfect blend
We both had our roles to play, I held up my end
Sunny you’d see beauty in the darkening skies
I guess one day you realized, it came with a price

Sunny, won’t you shine your light tonight?

Oh Sunny I used to think you’d need someone
To keep you grounded but you don’t
Oh Sunny if I thought that I’d get by without someone
To raise me up, I won’t

Sunny, won’t you shine your light tonight?
Ain’t it funny, how the darkest hours creep by?
Sunny, won’t you shine your light tonight?


Scott,

I like this. You are actually quite good at writing lyrics and have a real poet's sense of rhyme scheme and prosody. You should take that as a complement because I use to teach college courses in writing. I'd give you an A for this. smile


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Originally Posted by Mark Kaufman
Am I the only one who thought she died in the bridge?

For me, this sequence...

Sunny, you used to say that we were the perfect blend
We both had our roles to play, I held up my end
Sunny you’d see beauty in the darkening skies
I guess one day you realized, it came with a price

Sunny, won’t you shine your light tonight?

Oh Sunny I used to think you’d need someone
To keep you grounded but you don’t
Oh Sunny if I thought that I’d get by without someone
To raise me up, I won’t


...broke my heart because of all the past tense going on...like the singer realizes how much he misses her optimism.

Great tune, Scott!



That's interesting, Mark - when I was writing this, I just had in mind that she got tired of being dragged down all the time and left him. After I finished it, I started thinking, "man, that bridge makes it sound like she died". smile

If it works as a song, I guess it works either way.....

Thanks, Mark!

Scott

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Originally Posted by rblight

I like this. You are actually quite good at writing lyrics and have a real poet's sense of rhyme scheme and prosody. You should take that as a complement because I use to teach college courses in writing. I'd give you an A for this. smile


Cool! Thanks, rb!

Never had much problem with math and science courses - writing courses were always the bigger challenge for me. Nice to get an A!

Scott

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Listened again. It holds up. Good solid song.

The only thing I question is "keep me grounded" - to me this sounds too much like Dr Phil, that that's just me.



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Hi Scott,

I haven't posted for a while, but was stopping in and took a listen.

Very nice feeling to this. To me this had a nice Irish street pop feel to it, if there is such a thing. I think it has potential as the hook is very good, but it does need further melodic development IMO. As I read the lyric it seems the chorus works, but the verses aren't grabbing me on the gut level, again IMO.

The production I heard in my head was simple beginning that continues to build as new voices and instruments come in with maybe an a cappella chorus break - that may or may not make any sense.

Anyway just my rambling thoughts. Great work and effort as always. The force is is strong in you, young Skywalker. (Ha, sorry couldn't resist) Wish you the best.

Pete

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Sweet song Scott...nice alliteration...yes?...Anyway very nice...good harmony vocals...you not only told me how to do it in another post but showed me in this one...well done...one sugg

When I’d see only luck and coincidence

Maybe something diff like... When I'd see a dollar and six pence

or something like that...little easier to sing...ah heck...what do I know...good job!!

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Hi Scott,
Check your PMs.

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Originally Posted by Tom Shea
Listened again. It holds up. Good solid song.

The only thing I question is "keep me grounded" - to me this sounds too much like Dr Phil, that that's just me.



Hi Tom:

Thanks for the return visit. That line has somewhat of the same effect on me. Now that someone else noted it, guess I'll have to think on it some. smile

Thanks!

Scott

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Originally Posted by Ted Bryson
Sweet song Scott...nice alliteration...yes?...Anyway very nice...good harmony vocals...you not only told me how to do it in another post but showed me in this one...well done...one sugg

When I’d see only luck and coincidence

Maybe something diff like... When I'd see a dollar and six pence

or something like that...little easier to sing...ah heck...what do I know...good job!!


Thanks Ted - I love working out harmonies. smile

In that pair of lines, I'm trying to get across the idea that when something wonderful happens, she sees it as divine intervention and he sees it just as dumb luck.

Your line suggestion is a good one - but gives it a different slant. I'll think on it....

Appreciate the listen and suggestions....

Scott

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Originally Posted by Little_stevie_b
Hi Scott,
Check your PMs.

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Got it Steve! Thanks!

Scott

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Originally Posted by PeteG
Hi Scott,

I haven't posted for a while, but was stopping in and took a listen.

Very nice feeling to this. To me this had a nice Irish street pop feel to it, if there is such a thing. I think it has potential as the hook is very good, but it does need further melodic development IMO. As I read the lyric it seems the chorus works, but the verses aren't grabbing me on the gut level, again IMO.

The production I heard in my head was simple beginning that continues to build as new voices and instruments come in with maybe an a cappella chorus break - that may or may not make any sense.

Anyway just my rambling thoughts. Great work and effort as always. The force is is strong in you, young Skywalker. (Ha, sorry couldn't resist) Wish you the best.

Pete


Hey Pete:

Where ya been, man? smile

Thanks for your thoughts on this - some interesting things to try there. Seems like the verses might need some work....

Appreciate the suggestions!

Luke smile

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