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I think I get it now Marty

Everything we say about Mr Trump is being taken personally by you.

Your strident defense of everything he did and does is because you are personally affronted and believe you have to defend your election choice.

The result is that Tony, Rob, Dom and myself are living in your head and you cannot stay away or react differently...trapped in your own algorithm.

I think he's just a frustrated old drag queen.
He can still sing "Bad Girls",
But...
These days, the face paint just makes him look like a sick, skinny catfish.

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I'm afraid you don't get it now Aohn. You're rationalizing.

You don't live in my head. But you have made your contribution to an atmosphere that has dwindled participation at this site. Which is regrettable.
And you seem to have finally realized that.

It is a simple issue and circumstance. If you have a goal oriented endeavor involving multiple people of different backgrounds and you start beating a political or religious drum....you are going to create discord and drive people away, that would have remained otherwise.

The time tested axiom is spelled out very well in the blue text below.
Violate it with inevitable consequences.
This site is an excellent case in point.

Your continued rationalized attempts to try to shift the blame onto my personality or one of the many people who have simply chosen to withdraw as a result of this atmosphere... is DOA and reaching...and flies in the face of a basic reality that has yielded a time tested axiom.

These breakfast sessions where I attempt to clear some of the foggy minds here is taking more time than I have.

I was glad to see you state that you have decided to stop the political rants.
That was a good decision.

Good Saturday to you.

“If you want to start an argument, bring up and persist in talking about either religion or politics”.

Why This Axiom Persists (from Gemini)

The logic behind this "unholy trinity" of topics (Religion, Politics, and Money) is rooted in the preservation of social harmony. Here is why they are often cited as the primary ingredients for discord:

Identity vs. Opinion: Unlike discussing the weather or a movie, religion and politics are often tied to a person's core identity and moral framework. Attacking an idea can feel like a personal attack.

The Absence of Common Ground: These topics often rely on faith or subjective values rather than empirical data, making "winning" an argument nearly impossible.

Emotional Volatility: Discussion in these areas tends to trigger the amygdala (the brain's emotional center) rather than the prefrontal cortex (the rational center), leading to heat instead of light.

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Well Moe, you’re right.
I’ve said some pretty raw stuff to you.
But you’re not mentioning that you post declarations like the following. So yeah, sure I have.






Clever? You are not.
You seem to think that you are some Oscar Wilde reincarnation and that all the loosely organized buffoonery that you post on this site, is actually enlightened artistic expression that serves to beget more enlightened artistic expression. It does not.
It is just baffoonery that drives people away.

The one and only good thing that you can take credit for is being the motivation behind the creation of another songwriting site. Kay-Mart as you call it. Lol

I haven’t tried to join, but, look in every once in a while.
It looks like a nice atmosphere.
Other than Rachel taking veiled swipes at me employing veiled songs about “flies” and then sending out insidious messages about some unidentified person who doesn’t "hang out" there, who he doesn’t appreciate. All in an effort to make as many people feel about me…as he does. Nothing new there. The irony is that he engages in all of that and then…HE likens me to an insect. ??

Having said all of that…
I was limiting my sessions at the asylum to once a day with breakfast. I thought that if I cut them down, it would focus them, and I would avoid circular rabbit holes. Somewhat true. But something that I never realized about you Moe, is that your head is a mess full of nothing but scattered and disjointed notions.

You even, “cherry-pick” Christianity for what parts of it that YOU want to adhere to and ignore the parts that conflict with telling women to choke on dix.
You think that scattered baffoonery and insults are high-art forms.
Your mind cannot be focused.
You will be a hopelessly dumb sh*t until your last breath.

Achieving focus and intelligent conversation with you is not a possibility.

Notwithstanding, I noticed that someone named “Rob,” put up a pleasant song for comment.
Since the “focus” can't be satisfactorily had and these morning sessions are wasting too much of my time…I’m going to space them out more and maybe some other nice songs will fill in the space.

See you in a few days.

Xoxo

Ps…there was never a “good reason” to write that to Kay-lynn.
That statement is ridiculous and clearly indicates the degree of your degeneracy and derangement.

If you keep responding everything you are exposing, gets stronger.

but really, all sites are dead, you dont even get views


And ignored songs, songs simply dont exist.

Muse is just as bad.

All sites are the same, im pulling out. Ill post my last song done with udio, only because I think its really good.

Then im committing to suno to do ny own.

Sites are dead. Its inconceivable how or why Brian keeps this place open.

In the end it costs him money, money nobody wants to pay for to get this content.

Its a gonner

Well Dom,

That is a sensible point view.
I've no argument to make otherwise.

For me, this site is a curiosity where odd but sometimes interesting things are posted. I can't engage these conversations with in-the-flesh human beings. I know that they are out there, but some of them are wild cards who take guns to White House dinners.

Reading Moe's nonsense and trying to envision how he sees himself and the world, led me to spending about an hour with AI verifying notions that I held about Islam and finding out that some of them were faulty.

Investigating it was very enjoyable personal gain.

(And no, I'm not considering adopting the religion for myself. Just interested in what upwards to 2 billion people believe)

As for focusing on songs here...I personally don't think that works very well anymore.
This place is mostly the Moe-show now.

Yes, but why on earth would you have a open bar, with 4 stools, and call the bar, the songwriters inn.

And you know Brian will need money again.

Who pays for this?

Oh the irony of the OP title.

Were gonna have to pay for this, if we want a music site.

I've no idea.
Maybe no one pays.
Why are people here allowed to tell a woman to choke on his d*ck, yet remain?

It's all a mystery to me.
As hard as I may want not to...I can't help but be curious.

Brian seems to know many people that he can call on to chip in. I gave $300 one year but I'm no longer on the list. I suspect he can find others.

Yet, dunno.

Gotta task to go do.

A devout Christian to boot.

I get it, its a car wreck on the opposite side of the highway.

But reality is there's nowhere else to go.

Sites are dead, I dont know if there will ever be a place for songwriters to talk shop again.

Expecting this place to change, doing same thing over and over again, is the definition of insanity

Seriously, Mr Lied?
You're pointing a finger and saying that I started it?
Wow, you and Kay just keep marching in perfect step.
After seven years (on THIS site) of your cancel culture Bull$hit,
NO SALE, MANKUNT!


Then why are you still here complaining, "Shameless"?
Your inner "DomDom" is showing again...


Ha, The only thing to blame for that miserable failure is one spoiled little girl's arrogant conceit... WITH YOUR ENCOURAGEMENT AND BRIAN'S BLESSING!
"Kay-Mart" as I call it. Lol


OMG! YOU'RE OBSESSED, YOU FUK'N MANPUSSY!
The only thing you really need to know about https://www.starfishsongwriters.com/
Is in the lower left corner of the page...


Speaking of "rabbit holes",
I don't drink coffee, and in the spring, I generally skip breakfast in favor of tending my garden.
You should try it...


Again, you really need to get your inner "DomDom" under control. Besides, I've never understood why my faith matters so much to an atheist.
"High-art forms" lol
You really need to learn to separate the Word of God from "mans philosophy" and quit holding me to such an impossible standard.

I'M NOT JESUS, MORON!

You and Kay both have all the free will you need to suck all the dix you want. In fact, get on your knees and call it your religion.

The only tenet of faith that matters to me is forgiveness.
If responding to insult from a proud atheist with insult is a sin...
THEN SO BE IT!
No, I don't always turn the other cheek.
That's how I exercise "MY" free will.


Obviously, $hithead!


Lol, then why didn't you just politely respond to Rob's pleasant song instead of wasting energy insulting me?

Answer; YOU'RE A PSYCHOPATHIC FREAK! AND THE LEAST PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF A SONGWRITING SITE!


"Degeneracy and derangement" Lol...
Mr Lied, it's my steadfast focus on legitimacy, and profound manner in which I express myself, that allows me to maintain my unique and colorful sense of integrity in a world full of $hit.

Now, excuse me while I go write another song about assholes...

How the [naughty word removed] do you justify wasting all that time typing that all out.

Do you realize how obsessed and dysfunctional, and desolate that looks? And all on the fly, like you have a book to write.

The best thing that could happen to all of us, and a victory for mankind, would be this site closes.

Might hurt at first, but we all survived the year it was down.

It would free the lurkers too.

This is so sad.

People won't start a songwriter forum on Facebook, because they know they cant behave there like they do here.

This is a steel cage match, with no referee, and no consequence.

Tony would be unrecognizable On Facebook, guranteed

Im just disgusted that there's nothing left anywhere.

I guess its back to orgies and high living for me