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I hope I did this right. I hope to have a lot of new tunes on there...

ps...have a listen to Night Train, too...


Nachos & NASCAR ©2015 Robert George BMI

It was fin’lly time to meet my girlfriend’s folks
When I pulled up, my ole truck was covered in muck
And coughin’ smoke

But her mom had social polish
She’d been to a fancy college
Had a law degree and PHD
Baked her hair in an airtight bun
Sat down in an antique wingback chair
Looked down her nose in a snooty stare
Had a necklace strung with jewels
Asked me where I went to school
And where my fam’ly was from

Her cheeks were burnin’ red
When I smiled and said

“Nachos and NASCAR
Football and beer
Rodeo riding
Broncos and steers
Country and western
Wranglers and boots
That’s me to a T
Nachos and NASCAR
Those’re my roots”

Then her mama asked me if I like Dressage
I was feelin’ sad, things were goin’ bad, then my girlfriend’s dad
Came in from their garage

He was hummin’ Freebird
Wore a Kid Rock t-shirt
Had a Bud Light can in his greasy hand
And a crescent wrench in the other one
Took a big swig and he laughed
Said, “don’t mind my better half
She comes off like she’s upper crust
But it’s my dirt n grease n dust
That really loosens up her bun”

Her cheeks were blushin’ red
When he smiled and said

“Nachos and NASCAR
Football and beer
Rodeo riding
Broncos and steers
Country and western
Wranglers and boots
That’s me to a T
Nachos and NASCAR
Those’re my roots”

Her mama likes art galleries and wineries
Her daddy earns his salary at an oil refinery
It’s a good thang she’s a daddy’s girl
Cos she really loves my world …of

Nachos and NASCAR
Football and beer
Rodeo riding
Broncos and steers
Country and western
Wranglers and boots
That’s me to a T
Nachos and NASCAR
Those’re my roots

You can't pitch AI songs to publishers , its a cute redneck song

Actually maybe you can pitch AI songs , I'll let you know
Brent Baxter is talking on the subject in podcasts. I can't see how , its stolen material for a penny

I think you can pitch it, but it can't be used other than a reference. "Well maybe we can change this or change that"

You definitely can't use the track as is.

It's stolen music, stolen performance, stolen production.

Great for reference unless you find an open minded publisher.

The odds it makes a dime slim to none, so it may be over reacting.

I think it's an invaluable reference, designed as a primer for the actual track

Brent Baxter makes money ,its not all gloom and doom , Yet

my co-writer paid $1000 for a Nashville demo. the intro is right out of an Eagles classic.

"Stolen"??!

get real.

now I can do what I want, the way I want it.



cheap.

Right and not pitch to publishers I guess . you're hooked on robots now. Now you can steal tracks for a penny , Well beats a over priced demo , he over paid

That $1000 demo went nowhere with pubs, although everyone said they liked it.

I'm not hooked, not even close...I just like results. If you're getting results you're happy with, more power to you.

Yes and an expert in the field....

The lyrics seem stolen too. Know I've seen parts of it all over.

Should produce smash after smash now...

Whereeree do I buy it?

Same place I bought the trinity is a hoax?

Well he seems to be out of retirement

$600.00 is tops on demos . Well robots do a good job , Maybe one day publishers will take them . No response from Brent Baxter on the topic

But your both missing the main point. This is not about demos, this is using actual samples of commercially released records. The melodies, chrid progression, the vocalist image, and the production

I thought it was akot of fun too, I was harassed for posting when nobody else did, then people embraced it.

It's not about enjoying it's about only caring what YOU post.

I'm not missing the point , it's the ongoing saga on robots against humans and money. Thats really what it's all about Money . A penny or 600 bucks

So yes, you are missing the point. Robots are just using likeness of humans who have already done it.

Nothing to fear, just understood, and so far, nothing I've heard anywhere using AI was better than humans.

But it's kinda pointless paying 600-1500 for a demo nobody asked to hear, or for some body who has no audience that wants it.

It's still a hobby in its bare form, why mortgage the house on demos.

The game is still pitching 600.00 demos to publishers , Unless things have changed on pitching penny songs to them . Which would put Nashville out of business . Publishers still ask for songs , this has nothing to do with dying sites on AI songs and an audience. it takes about 5 minutes to listen to a song and say something .

mortgage the house. yeah don't do that , don't ask me how I know .

Robert,
wow what a classic country lyric. Your writing is awesome! I love the tune. Suno did a great job. This one is really catchy. Great song! Try to get someone to cover it. I guess then it's yours. I mean, you already own the lyrics.

All the best
Robert

Thats not how it works Rob , Publishers don't take AI songs. if he didn't pay the subscription fee, Suno owns it , that's how it works on your robots. its stolen material

Thanks, Rob! I hope you like other tunes I'll be posting, too.


Ben, if you're happy with the results of your George Strait song, great. I'm happy with the results of Chinatown.

that said, if you're unhappy with robots, I'll loan you a quarter...call a rapper.

otherwise, take your complaints elsewhere.

Totally stolen ..or at very least, borrowed.

I did not ask this thing to use Bruce Springsteen's voice, made no mention of it.

I think it recognizes styles...

If they are using superstars voices, it means everything it does is mimicking something, whether or not we recognize it

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GS song is live paid players and me singing , Not penny robots. And yes it was pitched , it will be resung with a different singer and PITCHED again . I pay my way and don't cheat the system with robots . No I'm not happy , it cost money to be in the GAME of publishers . As far as I know , you can't cheat the system with robots . You did. complaints over by me ... Good catchy robot song

Actually, I taught myself to write by spending thousands of dollars on music ranging from pre-war blues to Kraftwerk. I have the respect of quite a few people, including successful musicians and songwriters.

I avoid all "games", including creative ones.

please take yours elsewhere.

You asked on GS song , its payed live players , not robots. You're playing the game with robots , not me . it's stolen material proven by courts. ok I'm done complaining , carry on with robots

This environment has been getting pretty harsh here lately. Almost all of us use AI and we all know the strengths and weaknesses of AI. I hate it when people claim you stole the lyrics or the tune. This song is really good. I haven't heard the tune before, probably because it was generated together with your lyrics which are very unique. I wouldn't rule out that Suno might get close to copying an existing melody, but in most cases it generates something new, of course, based on existing songs. But almost every songwriter does that too. Robert, I assume you've signed up with Suno because the free version normally doesn't sound this good. If that's the case, according to Suno, you own the song.
I did listen to Chinatown too. That is a great piece of storytelling and Suno did a great job with that one as well. I'm glad you found a tool that helps you with your songwriting. Someone once said here that if you're a good lyricist, AI will deliver good results. Man, you are a good lyricist and you're producing awesome stuff!

Hey, Ben.
I've reached out to several publishers, and they have been consistent in saying this:

1) the song has to be WRITTEN by humans.
2) the demo needs to sound good if they're gonna pitch it.

I hear that there are some pubs who are resistant to AI demos for either "protect human jobs" or "the sound quality sucks" reasons, but I haven't actually spoken to any of these publishers yet. Hope that helps.
God bless,

Brent

It's the ass kissing, which I will never do and dint like having my ass kissed.

AI stuff has been posted here for over a year. Couch ignored every bit of it, was looking for a Christian forum here to blabber on.

Now " stay tuned everybody here I come, all eyes on me '

But he will never ever go into your thread and reciprocate, he's too good for that. You either praise him or you do not exist.

Your feeding him what he wants.

And he conned me into buying me one of his Christian e books.

Nice through emails when there's no stage for him to braggadocio.

We're all in this together....

Fraudulent people I guess ai fits.

The Trinity is a hoax...
Lol

The whole Bible is a hoax.

But I guess his mr Rogers phase has past.

Look out everybody smash hits are coming!

Publishers still want the humans , oh well kinda thought so

What's wrong with you? I gave Robert my honest feedback. Just a few weeks ago Robert and I worked together on a couple of songs. I learned a lot. He's a damn good writer. Sorry Fdem, I just love this song and I don't think there is much that can be improved. This track sounds like one of today's chart songs even though it's sung by robots. These robots are getting better all the time.

Might be a little bias in there. If you think this is a hit, then great.

That ain't the point Really.

Thanks, Rob. I don't know if I'll post every new one, but I should have some up next week.

Ben, good luck with your tunes.

you, too, FD.

No worries Robert , I got out of line . if publishers took AI songs , this song might work. The only qualified person to say if it's a radio cut is a pro publisher in Nashville . I like the song , I got a burr under my saddle and this AI heat coming down

I hope ya get a radio cut on whatever song

Hi Bennash,

Nice to meet you. I hope you don't mind me piping in on this subject. I get what you are saying. They definitely shy away from it. It is a threat to the industry. And there are a lot of grey areas. But the reality is that if they can't reach into your pocket and make their cut then A.I. is sacrilegious. But they have been published and copyrighted. Bloomberg reported in June of 2024 that "copyright protection continues to be granted for many AI-assisted works, which include about 200 registrations of the 1,000 applications the office has received that disclose the use of AI."

When country legend Randy Travis released recent singles “Horses in Heaven” and “Where That Came From,” the public was moved by the technology used to help him sing again. But make no mistake: Randy Travis did not write those songs. “Horses in Heaven” was written by Jon Randall and Matt Nolen. “Where That Came From” was penned by Scotty Emerick and John Scott Sherrill. His label, Warner Music Nashville, owns the masters and copyrights. Travis, with AI assistance, performed songs written by others—an amazing feat, but fundamentally different from what I’ve done. His vocal patterns were overlayed on a session singer with similar patterns.

Randy Travis's song "Where That Came From" debuted at number 45 on the Billboard Country Airplay chart. It also reached number 2 on the Country Digital Song Sales chart, according to Forbes. This makes it his highest-charting hit on that particular chart. AI assisted.

"Horses in Heaven," Randy Travis' second song released with the help of AI, reached the top spot on the Billboard Country Airplay chart. It also reached number 1 on the Billboard Country Digital Song Sales chart. The song was released in May 2024. AI assisted.

In Germany, a wholly AI-generated song is making significant headway into the pop charts. “Verknallt in einen Talahon” (“In Love With A Talahon”) was created by German producer Butterbro, who used AI to generate the music, vocals and artwork for the song. A complete hack.

I use technology as a tool—not a ghostwriter, not a vocalist, not a shortcut. Suno didn’t write or sing for me. It rendered my musical vision using customizable male vocal models—none of which are tied to any real performer. It’s the same principle as the first person to plug in an electric guitar, or when someone added pedal steel to country music. New tools don’t replace talent—they expand it.

I have two albums on Spotify, Apple Music, and IHeartRadio. My albums didn’t come from a team. I'm not a hack and I didn't cheat. It came from years of writing, grinding, failing, and trying again. Since 2004, I’ve studied the craft. I joined a Nashville songwriting team in 2016, learned under pressure, hit writer’s block, and stepped away discouraged. I sent off over $1000 for a 3 song demo and it came back sounding like garbage. I tossed it in the trash. It was worthless.

This time, I did it my way. I own 100% of the rights and royalties. Every song is registered with BMI. Each lyric and melody is legal and I used AI not to replicate someone else—but to amplify my own original work. What I’ve created took songwriting ability, musical instinct, technical skill, and vision. AI was my amplifier—not my author. This isn’t a gimmick. It’s the future, and I’m proud to be one of the first to embrace it with authenticity and full creative control. Is it a threat to the industry? Absolutely. It makes all of the people who rip people off and shatters their dreams irrelevant. Very few of the Nashville executives and "experts" can actually sing, write, or play an instrument. If they could, they would.

Here's a good example. I recently pitched a song to someone at a renowned label in Nashville. She didn't want to mess with it in the first place but did it for me as a favor to someone else. Her advice? Let me recommend ------- to recreate it so that it takes any questions of AI out of it. So I went to their website. They can do a similar arrangement all right (or so they claim). For $700 plus extra instruments like banjo which I use regularly in my songs. That's for one song. I was told to listen to their studio artists and pick one I would be interested in using. So I went down the list of vocalists on their site. And not one could do what I was able to achieve with Suno Pro. If I paid out all of that money, I would get back the same garbage I tossed in 2016.

I have been writing for over 20 years. I have tried and tried to get what I hear in my head explained to studio musicians. It doesn't translate. But I can take the same parameters and put them into Suno and get the sound I want. The experience is exactly the same except one produces results. The other ripped me off. This time, I own all the royalties because I used Pro. My albums have been distributed across all digital platforms and I had 6,000 listens the first week. All of my friends and family are sharing it like crazy. Everybody loves it. I guarantee you that if I paid out $700 or more for a one song demo in Nashville, nobody would listen to that junk. The industry is designed to rip you off. It is one scam after another. Nashville Song Service is the biggest scam out there. All they do is shatter dreams of sometimes some really good artists. Who might not be able to sing good, play great, or write great. Some artists out there never have written a song. But they have good vocals. So Nashville plugs them in to the machine. Just like they did with Randy Travis. It's all about the almighty dollar. Fine when they do it because they make money off of it. But not fine when the average person like me uses it.

Mark my words, everything evolves in this world. AI used in the write context is a great tool. It gave me what I have heard in my head for many years. Nashville didn't. This, like MP3's in the 90's, is the future. Laws may have to be tweaked. AI generators may not be allowed to generate lyrics anymore or melody without specific parameters. But it will become a tool in the industry. Perhaps AI specific genres need to be made as well. But it is going to be an uphill battle. The industry has a lot of money to throw at lawyers to fight against the biggest threat to their way of doing business that has ever existed. Is using AI wrong? Only if you are on their side of the fence.

Sorry I wrote so much. I feel very passionate about this subject. AI gave me what Nashville didn't for a whole lot cheaper. So yeah, I'm all for it. I have zero sympathies for how much it might affect an industry built upon a complete lack of morality. Nothing against you for your opinions on the subject. But those are mine. Have a good one. Nice to make your acquaintance.

Hi Robert,

Sorry I hijacked your thread to speak with Bennash regarding the use of AI. As for your tune, I like it. I thought it was funny. You've always been a great writer. Back in the day, I learned so much studying your lyrics. You probably influenced me more in my early years than anyone I know. It's nice to see you still writing and so dang prolific. I mean, golly you are prolific. I bow to it. But it is also nice to see you having fun with songs like this. Who cares if they aren't a industry song? I like it. Good stuff!

Wes