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So mutual destruction being guaranteed, that puts Canada in the cat seat.
I doubt it John.

Here is the good news for you,
Trumps biggest problem by far is China.

If the US isolated Canada and drew a hard line, the US would be significantly inconvenienced but Canada would have to come to the table or choke out. It's a matter of size and export markets. My suggestion is to quit all the threats and tough talk and simply try to get along with the US. Trump is looking for fairness, not looking to be unfair. Realize that and tell the folks that the 51st state noise is just to fire up your TDS and get you in an agitated state. I bought a truck yesterday. They tried to do exactly that to me.

That is not the case with China. A throw down with China, which appears to be happening, will cause shelves to empty all over the place, and prices to go up...imo...which is all guess at this point. That is now the one concern that matters most. The next few months look ominous.

The ice is starting to thaw. You guys need to concentrate on enjoying the warmer weather.

I gotta go do some stuff. Y'all try not to fret. We like you down here.

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-explains-tariff-reversal_n_67f78d5ee4b07a2fc455b67c

here is an article by a TDS stoker publication.
Trump says he didnt want to hurt some countries. "from the heart." (maybe, maybe not)
He says people were "yipping" and they were. Ted Cruz donors were apparently threatening to hang him.
He says bond markets and recession fears caused the pause.

So Steve, clearly there is something to your prediction.

But CHINA was split out.

Now there is a re-alignment period of 90 days or.
I've no idea what happens, but IF ANYONE HERE SEES A 3K POINT UPWARD SWING IN THE DOW...Please post it here.

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No you don't get a free pass here Marty.

You cannot say that Trump is free to threaten, disrespect, and humiliate his allies and trade parners and then say all he wants to do is get along with them and have better trade relations.. and anyways, the real enemy is China.

What part of creating daily chaos for consumers and investors and businesses is bad don't you get?


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John

I'm aware that Trump can be a dic+.
I never watched that apprentice show once, because I found him annoying.
When my wife told me that Trump was running for president, my response was..."that smug asshol+ who's famous for saying "you're fired" is doing what? Are you kidding me?"

Yet, I have voted for him 3 times because I like most of what he signs and ultimately actually does.
If his antics gets all over some people, that is a non-concern compared to the border alone.
Similarly, the murder, chaos and screams of rape victims created by an open border was a non-concern compared to getting rid of Trump...for Libtardia.

I've spent my working life as a small time builder-contractor. Construction is rough. My working life has been a microscopic war.

If someone has a hard time dealing with the crap that Trump says..there are other things which are much more concerning regarding that person's emotional make-up...that have nothing to do with Trump. He is just an externalized bogeyman to blame for all of their discomfort.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
[quote=VNORTH2][
Trump economic advisor says bond market added ‘a little more urgency’ to tariff decision

That is one of two points that I didnt have time to make yesterday.

#1 "In the room"
I was not in the room and neither were you, therefore neither one of us can truly know what ALL was involved in what went on yesterday. Nor can we know what the contingency plans were in the overall strategy.


So what...I just gave my opinion, confirmed by the headline.....annnd once again I was right...and as Rob said. You weren’t...but then this is way above your pay grade....I’ve been there done that....lolol



#2 Cause and effect
If you are such a soothsayer, and you have divined the entire situation from the frozen north, WHY DID YOU NOT TELL ME THAT THINGS WERE IN PLACE THAT WERE GOING TO SWING THE DOW UP 3000 POINTS IN ONE DAY? I would have bought a depressed stock...or two. I bought a new truck yesterday. A tip from you could have paid for it...if you knew.



My God, Marty, you know nothing about markets....a simple rule...buy low sell high....my 7 year old grand niece can figure that out....hell you didn’t even listen to your Guru when he said it’s a great time to buy earlier in the day...and he was the guy that had all the info

Just looked at the market...down 1346....did you pick up that depressed stock you missed out on yesterday...please tell me you learned your lesson



I'll answer #2 for you...because you didn't actually know. I asked you the day before what the market might do and you didn't know. You're a smart guy for sure, but there is a lot that you and I dont get to see, that explains the path of events...regardless of what Rachel Maddow and her hand picked talking heads may parrot.

Of course I didn’t know....Duh....that’s why it is an opinion...speak for yourself....I’ve been following the market at a high level of awareness since 1986....

OK Marty....new rule....you’re only allowed 5 dumb statements per post....my head hurts from laughing


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Those arent my words. They came from a non-partisan who knows a lot more than me or you.
That is the situation at its core. You dont want to believe it because your "happy ending" depends on it not being true, but it is.

So you stole your little story from someone else....looks like you know less than even I thought...nothing original under that little red hat, Marty??
Don’t know about you but, no, he/she doesn’t know more than me...lolol

You don’t know what is at the core. I go by history...3 trade agreements with US since 1988.....trade deficit in favour of Canada didn’t go away...



I don't think that the US and Canada are going to throw down. The US has a much bigger concern and it appears that the US is in-process of aligning its forces against that concern.
But if they ever do and the US cuts Canada off from the market buys 3/4 of its exports, Canada would run out of oxygen long before the US.

So, simply approach this fairly

US is not cutting us off....we may cut off oil and natural gas to US though....LOLOL


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Marty. Marty, Marty ....the market is down 1700 points...I predict it is going up and down,,,,quickly get in there and buy....sell that pickup truck and your house and buy buy buy

Your pal Steve

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Oh too late it's only down 1643


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The stock market is going down again. You ain't seen nothing yet. And the tariffs against China are still going up ... now 145%. If this goes on at the same rate it did during the past days, we'll be at 500% by the end of the month. China is the second largest holder of US treasuries! I read somewhere that if China dumps US treasuries, stock valuations come under pressure, mortgage rates rise which will cool the housing market and consumer spending and Federal borrowing costs will surge, straining an already ballooning deficit. Trump better be careful what he is doing.

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Doom sayers , never fails


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Originally Posted by Rob B.
And the tariffs against China are still going up ... now 145%. If this goes on at the same rate it did during the past days, we'll be at 500% by the end of the month.

500%?
Nothing but TDS explains the things that you write.

If you dont stop going public with all this negative Trump bash, he's gonna to send a newly established Russian task force, that is under his control, out to throw you in the back of a black van. They are going to cut your leg off at the knee and then roast it, and serve it to Trump on a plate. He is going eat what he wants of it and then pick his teeth with the smaller bones. The remainder will be sent DHL to Moscow where Putin will put it on bed in a whore house and several Russian prostitutes will urinate on it.

As ridiculous at that is, there is little doubt that you bought in for a couple of seconds...as soon as I had said the words "Trump" and "Russian" and "urinate."

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Originally Posted by VNORTH2
My God, Marty, you know nothing about markets....a simple rule...buy low sell high....my 7 year old grand niece can figure that out....

Steve
I don't pretend to know a lot, but I knew that much.
Do you know anything that is actually useful, or are you just a re-run of the Rachel Maddow Show?

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hell you didn’t even listen to your Guru when he said it’s a great time to buy earlier in the day...and he was the guy that had all the info


Of course I didn’t know....


OK Marty....my head hurts from TDS.


Steve,
Until yesterday, you were my guru.

But it turns out, Donny J can tweet a single sentence and arbitrarily send the DOW up 3000 points.
He's better at this than you are. I'm gonna start following his tweets.

Love and kisses,
Marty

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Doom sayers , never fails


Yeah, there will be a lot of disappointed people if the USA doesn't "bite the dust". - ha, ha.

The Other John laugh

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Originally Posted by bennash
Doom sayers , never fails


Yeah, there will be a lot of disappointed people if the USA doesn't "bite the dust". - ha, ha.

The Other John laugh


I reckon , All I see on here is the sky's falling . Hooked on dooms day media I guess


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or are you just a re-run of the Rachel Maddow Show?

I haven't owned a TV or watched TV for 15+ years....it all ends up on the internet within 24 hours
Haven't seen her for over a year....or anyone on msnbc....she's just not interesting

Do you know anything that is actually useful

Told you to buy when Dow was down 1700...it just closed down 1014....did you buy....or was it useless to give you a money making tip...or maybe you really didn't have that kind of money and really bought a pickup for your guitar in hopes we wouldn't notice


Until yesterday, you were my guru.
And now we know you lie...lolol


But it turns out, Donny J can tweet a single sentence and arbitrarily send the DOW up 3000 points.
He's better at this than you are. I'm gonna start following his tweets.

Fill your boots....it can't be worse than your performance so far....


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Originally Posted by VNORTH2
or are you just a re-run of the Rachel Maddow Show?

I haven't owned a TV or watched TV for 15+ years....it all ends up on the internet within 24 hours
Haven't seen her for over a year....or anyone on msnbc....she's just not interesting

Do you know anything that is actually useful

Told you to buy when Dow was down 1700...it just closed down 1014....did you buy....or was it useless to give you a money making tip...or maybe you really didn't have that kind of money and really bought a pickup for your guitar in hopes we wouldn't notice


Until yesterday, you were my guru.
And now we know you lie...lolol


But it turns out, Donny J can tweet a single sentence and arbitrarily send the DOW up 3000 points.
He's better at this than you are. I'm gonna start following his tweets.

Fill your boots....it can't be worse than your performance so far....


Internet dooms day , same thing as TV. people jumping out of windows I guess


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Hey Ben

Hooked on Doom....your next song????

Steve


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Originally Posted by VNORTH2
Hey Ben

Hooked on Doom....your next song????

Steve

April is Stress Awareness Month.... Maybe they should tell the IRS
Right Hooked On Doom , ha ha

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I found out what may be causing this aingst.

I've been suggesting throughout to Steve and John and Rob, to relax.
Assume some thrashing and so forth and then people will realize that it is in everyone's interest to get to a table and reach a fair bargain.
Except maybe the CCP.

Today, Fox news said, that Tucker Carlson said, that Rachel Maddow said, that "unnamed sources" told her...

""One way or another, Trump is going to take control and possession of Canada.
He is going to take the maple leaf off of the Canadian flag and replace it with a picture of Liberace.
He is going to make the entire nation one American state, that he will call "Gurlymonja."
The "Gulf of St Lawrence" will cease to be known by that name. It will henceforth be the "Gulf of Gurlymonja."
Gurlymonja will have no senators, no congressmen, no voting and no Belgium chocolates.""

After reading that, it makes a little bit of sense that Steve and John are so agitated.
As I said before, rest assured fellas, we won't let Trump do it. No way.

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Doomsday...?

All gamblers think they have a winning formula; An unbeatable angle.
A stock broker is just a glorified bookie.

Whether you loose your A$$ in Vegas or on Wall St, the whining and excuses always sound exactly the same...

Trump isn't trying to beat the game...
He's rigging the house.


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Doomsday...?

All gamblers think they have a winning formula; An unbeatable angle.
A stock broker is just a glorified bookie.

Whether you loose your A$$ in Vegas or on Wall St, the whining and excuses always sound exactly the same...


if you can't afford to be in the market , you should not be in there
But that market is always on Bull or Bear . crypto is not doing to bad after ashole Musk said government wont use it.

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Doomsday...?

All gamblers think they have a winning formula; An unbeatable angle.
A stock broker is just a glorified bookie.

Whether you loose your A$$ in Vegas or on Wall St, the whining and excuses always sound exactly the same...


if you can't afford to be in the market , you should not be in there
But that market is always on Bull or Bear . crypto is not doing to bad after ashole Musk said government wont use it

Trump isn't trying to beat the game...
He's rigging the house.

Elon isn't even a player, lol


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Doomsday...?

All gamblers think they have a winning formula; An unbeatable angle.
A stock broker is just a glorified bookie.

Whether you loose your A$$ in Vegas or on Wall St, the whining and excuses always sound exactly the same...


if you can't afford to be in the market , you should not be in there
But that market is always on Bull or Bear . crypto is not doing to bad after ashole Musk said government wont use it

Trump isn't trying to beat the game...
He's rigging the house.

Elon isn't even a player, lol

Maybe , he's got a big mouth on crypto , I wish he'd shut up


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Originally Posted by bennash
Maybe , he's got a big mouth on crypto , I wish he'd shut up

Cryptocurrency isn't going to take over the world in a day, Elvis...
I hope you didn't bet the farm.


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Oh My!

It is not about the people.
It is about the power and the money.


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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by Rob B.
And the tariffs against China are still going up ... now 145%. If this goes on at the same rate it did during the past days, we'll be at 500% by the end of the month.

500%?
Nothing but TDS explains the things that you write.

If you dont stop going public with all this negative Trump bash, he's gonna to send a newly established Russian task force, that is under his control, out to throw you in the back of a black van. They are going to cut your leg off at the knee and then roast it, and serve it to Trump on a plate. He is going eat what he wants of it and then pick his teeth with the smaller bones. The remainder will be sent DHL to Moscow where Putin will put it on bed in a whore house and several Russian prostitutes will urinate on it.

As ridiculous at that is, there is little doubt that you bought in for a couple of seconds...as soon as I had said the words "Trump" and "Russian" and "urinate."

Marty,
thanks for bashing me the way you did. You are really a mean person. Do you have friends? I have no idea what caused you to explode the way you did. All I said is that if you look at the way Trump has been increasing his tariffs on China everybody can recognize an upward trend. Apparently, you can’t. That’s your problem.

US tariffs on goods from China
Feb. 4: 10%
March 4: 20%
April 2: 34%
April 9: 104%
April 9: 125%
April 10: 145%

I wrote that if this trend continues at the same rate, we will reach 500% by the end of the month. Did I bash Trump? No! Marty, I think you owe me an apology.

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Chill out, Rob...

Marty is just pissed because he got suckered into buying a turbo-charged rice burner grin


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What car did he buy? Didn't he want to wait until this summer? Why the hurry all of a sudden? What kind of car is a turbo-charged rice burner? Btw, I'm chilled.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
I've been suggesting throughout to Steve and John and Rob, to relax.
As I said before, rest assured fellas, we won't let Trump do it. No way.

Marty, who is "we"? Are YOU going to stop him from doing what he is doing? Nobody will stop him. He became a dictator on day one. He is doing whatever he wants and no-one can stop him. Or do you know someone who can. Give me a name. If you can't, then stop writing this stuff over and over again.

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Originally Posted by Rob B.
thanks for bashing me the way you did. You are really a mean person. Do you have friends? I have no idea what caused you to explode the way you did. All I said is that if you look at the way Trump has been increasing his tariffs on China everybody can recognize an upward trend. Apparently, you can’t. That’s your problem.

Rob,
It is not going to reach 500%. That's distortion. If it does, I will apologize. But it won't.

If being told that you suffer TDS and 500% is ridiculously hyperbolic...makes me a mean person,
then you have much more important personal emotional issues to think about than anything that I said.

I genuinely feel that the thought and image of Trump makes you unreasonably dislocated emotionally. TDS is as good as anything to call some of your statements and reactions. I'm not lying when I say that I think that you fit the description.

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Originally Posted by Rob B.
Marty, who is "we"? Are YOU going to stop him from doing what he is doing? Nobody will stop him. He became a dictator on day one. He is doing whatever he wants and no-one can stop him.

Dictator?
You've got to be playing with me here for fun.
That is fanciful freshman in college ridiculous.

Now I cant write a suggestion to relax???
You, Rob, are the dictator.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
[quote=Rob B.]
thanks for bashing me the way you did. You are really a mean person. Do you have friends? I have no idea what caused you to explode the way you did. All I said is that if you look at the way Trump has been increasing his tariffs on China everybody can recognize an upward trend. Apparently, you can’t. That’s your problem. [quote]

Rob,
It is not going to reach 500%. That's distortion. If it does, I will apologize. But it won't.

If being told that you suffer TDS and 500% is ridiculously hyperbolic...makes me a mean person,
then you have much more important personal emotional issues to think about than anything that I said.

I genuinely feel that the thought and image of Trump makes you unreasonably dislocated emotionally. TDS is as good as anything to call some of your statements and reactions. I'm not lying when I say it.

Marty, I only explained mathematics. I explained a trend that you apparently don't see. I actually didn't say we would reach 500%. I said, if the trend continues we will reach 500%. That is true my friend. You owe me an apology, not when it reaches 500%. Now! You doubting the 500% doesn't make you a mean person. It was the rest that you wrote. Shame on you Marty. That has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Will you apologize or not?

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by Rob B.
Marty, who is "we"? Are YOU going to stop him from doing what he is doing? Nobody will stop him. He became a dictator on day one. He is doing whatever he wants and no-one can stop him.

Dictator?
You've got to be playing with me here for fun.
That is fanciful freshman in college ridiculous.

Now I cant write a suggestion to relax???
You, Rob, are the dictator.

Marty, you didn't answer my question. Who is going to stop Trump? You? Surely not. You say we should relax. "We won't let Trump do that". Who is we? Come on Marty! I would love to relax. Name someone who will stop him! Or admit that you can't name someone.

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Originally Posted by Rob B.
Marty, I only explained mathematics. I explained a trend that you apparently don't see. I actually didn't say we would reach 500%. I said, if the trend continues we will reach 500%.

Rob, you're playing pedantic games.

500% aint gonna happen.
You extrapolated from a dead start up to today's rate (IF TRUE) with a short term acceleration rate.
Then you applied it as a never ending constant in a vacuum to a scenario that will never happen. Resulting in 500%

What you did is create the illusion of a BS hyperbolic outcome in order spread the hysteria in your head to anyone naive enough to believe your distortion.
You are not a mathematician calmly seeking an outcome...you are a propagandist trying to stoke and spread a distorted belief in an end-of-the-world scenario in order to spread your panic.
It is so odd that it must be psychological.

Sorry, no sale.
I am worried about the economy and have been for a while, but the end is not nigh yet.

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Rob

And to answer your question, ultimately SCOTUS will stop Trump. (or not)
If he disregards a SCOTUS decision, people like me will turn against him.
He would be down to the support of the 20-30% that think God sent him.
He is smarter than to take it that far.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by Rob B.
Marty, I only explained mathematics. I explained a trend that you apparently don't see. I actually didn't say we would reach 500%. I said, if the trend continues we will reach 500%.

Rob, you're playing pedantic games.

500% aint gonna happen.
You extrapolated from a dead start up to today's rate (IF TRUE) with a short term acceleration rate.
Then you applied it as a never ending constant in a vacuum to a scenario that will never happen. Resulting in 500%

What you did is create the illusion of a BS hyperbolic outcome in order spread the hysteria in your head to anyone naive enough to believe your distortion.
You are not a mathematician calmly seeking an outcome...you are a propagandist trying to stoke and spread a distorted belief in an end-of-the-world scenario in order to spread your panic.
It is so odd that it must be psychological.

Sorry, no sale.
I am worried about the economy and have been for a while, but the end is not nigh yet.

Marty, I'm an IT expert. I know my math. You are wrong. What you previously wrote about me was disgusting. It had nothing to do with our discussions. I acknowledge that you will not apologize. SHAME ON YOU!!!

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Originally Posted by Rob B.
What you previously wrote about me was disgusting. SHAME ON YOU!!!

Ok. Right there. It's time for me to learn something.
I dont recall anything of that magnitude.
Quote what you are talking about.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Ok. Right there. It's time for me to learn something.
I dont recall anything of that magnitude.
Quote what you are talking about.

"If you dont stop going public with all this negative Trump bash, he's gonna to send a newly established Russian task force, that is under his control, out to throw you in the back of a black van. They are going to cut your leg off at the knee and then roast it, and serve it to Trump on a plate. He is going eat what he wants of it and then pick his teeth with the smaller bones. The remainder will be sent DHL to Moscow where Putin will put it on bed in a whore house and several Russian prostitutes will urinate on it."

What does this have to do with our discussion? Where are your arguments pro or contra what I wrote? You forget pretty quickly what you write, don't you? Marty, this kind of discussion is disgusting. There is absolutely no added value in what you wrote here. Again, I didn't even bash Trump! I described a trend I saw. In my post I even gave him advice: Trump better be careful what he is doing. That was in regards to the US treasuries that China owns. It's not me suffering from TDS, it's you who has some kind of issues.

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Originally Posted by Rob B.
"If you dont stop going public with all this negative Trump bash, he's gonna to send a newly established Russian task force, that is under his control, out to throw you in the back of a black van. They are going to cut your leg off at the knee and then roast it, and serve it to Trump on a plate. He is going eat what he wants of it and then pick his teeth with the smaller bones. The remainder will be sent DHL to Moscow where Putin will put it on bed in a whore house and several Russian prostitutes will urinate on it."

Good Gawd,
You poor and distraught creature. That was just cutting up. It was comedy.

It made two points...

#1
500% is just BS distortion.
the DOW was down 1014 today. Given the last few weeks and extrapolating with your expert trending math...it should be zero in about 2 months. But it wont be. That would be a ridiculous thing to say.

#2
I truly think that you have TDS. If you think that I should feel shame about applying this ridiculous quoted scenario to you...

IMAGINE, THAT YOU WERE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

and a bunch of asshos were basing an impeachment on a document that stated, amongst other things, that you hired a bunch of Russian whores to piss on a bed where Obama slept in Moscow.

I would be willing to bet that you bought the Steele Dossier, hook, line and sinker.

Who should feel shame?

You should see a therapist.

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Originally Posted by bennash
Maybe , he's got a big mouth on crypto , I wish he'd shut up

Cryptocurrency isn't going to take over the world in a day, Elvis...
I hope you didn't bet the farm.

Naw 10k , it's down 60 % right now , but climbing again . Elon started the scare. We made 200k 2 years ago on it , could have been 400k . But Elon tanked it on Sat night live and his big mouth. it is gambling like the market . Crypto scares the big bankers .

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Chill out, Rob...

Marty is just pissed because he got suckered into buying a turbo-charged rice burner grin

Its a GMC. Engine and all. Made in Missouri.
How do you know what I bought?

Per Gemini

The 2024 GMC Canyon is assembled in the United States at the General Motors (GM) Wentzville Assembly plant located in Wentzville, Missouri.  

Regarding the percentage of the truck that is made in the US, it's important to consider the origin of its parts. According to the 2024 Made in America Auto Index by the Kogod School of Business:

The 2024 GMC Canyon has 49 percent of its parts content sourced from the United States and Canada combined.
25 percent of its parts are sourced from Mexico.
The engine (TurboMax 2.7L I4 L3B) and the 8-speed automatic transmission are manufactured in the USA (Spring Hill, Tennessee for the engine and Toledo, Ohio for the transmission).  
Therefore, while the final assembly of the 2024 GMC Canyon takes place in the US, a significant portion of its parts originates from outside the United States, primarily from Canada and Mexico.

It's also worth noting that the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) has specific rules of origin for vehicles to qualify for duty-free treatment. As of 2024, a vehicle must contain at least 75% regional content (North America) to be considered originating under the USMCA, along with additional workforce wage requirements. While the provided data indicates a combined US/Canadian content of 49% for the 2024 GMC Canyon, it still qualifies for duty-free treatment as per current regulations, likely due to other factors considered under the USMCA rules of origin, such as the origin of critical components and labor value content.  


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Originally Posted by bennash
. Crypto scares the big bankers .

A currency that exists nowhere as a tangible, touchable asset?
Why would anyone be scared of that?

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Rob,

Tell ya what.

Political and religious discussions always end in arguments. Everyone everywhere knows that. They are poison to discourse.
If you enter into a political or religious "back-and-forth" and you expect the other participants to behave according to how you think that they should, from one moment to the next...you are in for disappointment.

Imo... beyond a political discussion or some guys bantering back and forth...there are some other things going on here.

Given that, I think it best that we don't respond to each other's posts, at least for while.

Marty

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Rob,

Tell ya what.

Political and religious discussions always end in arguments. Everyone everywhere knows that. They are poison to discourse.
If you enter into a political or religious "back-and-forth" and you expect the other participants to behave according to how you think that they should, from one moment to the next...you are in for disappointment.

Imo... beyond a political discussion or some guys bantering back and forth...there are some other things going on here.

Given that, I think it best that we don't respond to each other's posts, at least for while.

Marty



ha ha ha politics and religion , the worse topics in the universe . Lets argue on robot songs , everybody loves


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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by bennash
. Crypto scares the big bankers .

A currency that exists nowhere as a tangible, touchable asset?
Why would anyone be scared of that?

I don't know.. disrupts the big fat white bankers I guess . it's tangible and big money to be made on it .


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Just apologize for the black van, Marty... Rob is obviously a Nazi racist lol wink

(TurboMax 2.7L I4 L3B)...
Yeah', a 4 cylinder with a turbo. Chevy stole that from Nissan back in the 80s grin


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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Rob,
I think it best that we don't respond to each other's posts, at least for while.

Marty

Marty, you make it sound like it was my fault that you reacted the way you did. In the post where you attacked me, I didn't mention your name. It was not a response to any of your previous posts. It was a one-sided attack from YOU. If I understand you correctly you're suggesting that I leave this site altogether because I can't keep YOU from responding to my posts.

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China just raised tariffs on US imports from 84% to 125%. Now it's Trump's turn. What is he going to do? At these levels trading will halt altogether. The 1200$ iPhone will now cost 3000$. Trump says companies will compensate most of the tariffs. To me that statement sounds pretty stupid. Someone would have to explain to me how Apple can compensate 154%. There is no market in the US for those kind of products at that price. Americans will now probably drive across the borders to Mexico and Canada to buy the cheaper iPhones or switch to the competition. I always viewed Apple as one of the most iconic American brands. We'll see if they'll survive.

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Originally Posted by Rob B.
Marty
If I understand you correctly you're suggesting that I leave this site altogether because I can't keep YOU from responding to my posts.

Case in point.
I didn't write that or intend it. That is the product of the filters in your mind. That is your innate inclination to blow things up bigger than they are.

per your rules,
you can come on here and call Trump a dictator and a Nazi and whatever else. But if I say something as ridiculous, as he's a cannibal and he is going to eat your foot and pick his teeth with the small bones, that's monstrous. In making such a ridiculous statement, I am echoing the ridiculousness of some of your statements...to make a point regarding what you seem to desperately need to believe about Trump.

That seems one sided, and also...a little bit "off on the shoulder."

So my suggestion is a return to neutral corners, at least for a while.
You and the Trump bash brigade can rattle on for a while uncontested.
Well. there's Tony.

Ps...you do not know what the IPHONE is going to cost. You only know what some of the hand picked propagandist's opinions are, on Rachel Maddow and elsewhere. Trump did what needed to be done.
If you dont believe me, listen to Nancy Pelosi say it in this video.

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Just apologize for the black van, Marty... Rob is obviously a Nazi racist lol wink

(TurboMax 2.7L I4 L3B)...
Yeah', a 4 cylinder with a turbo. Chevy stole that from Nissan back in the 80s grin

I read that ISUZU was involved in GMs particular 4 cylinder motor, but they no longer are.
The motor was one of the misgivings I had about the Canyon. It's suppose to reach slightly over 300HP at some RPM, but it don't feel like it. Feels gutless.
But I'm old and I don't need to haul anything but a dirt bike occasionally.

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