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DISTURBING!?

Disturbing is how the "Socialist Indoctrination System", mainstream media, the music industry, and video games have been fuk'n with kids heads for the last 60yrs (that I know of)... Yet, 50% of the population only wants to talk about Critical Race Theory, gun control, and pre-pubescent sexual identity!!!

STOP TURNING OUR KIDS INTO ENTITLED, DELUSIONAL, ANTI-CHRISTIAN, SEXUALLY ANDROGYNOUS, ANTISOCIAL PSYCHOPATHS YOU STUPID COMMUNIST A$$HOLES!!!

Hey Ben, I'm from Canada....what's a doctor's bill???

No thanks: https://www.heritage.org/health-car...adians-and-leaves-them-worse-financially

John

I wasn't offering...LOL
Steve

Best Health care in the world Index 2024

Taiwan 78.72
South Korea77.7
Australia 74.11
Canada 71.32
Sweden 70.73
Ireland 67.99
Netherland 65.38
Germany 64.66
Norway 64.63
Israel 61.73

They must have forgotten the US

LOL
Steve

In 2022 there were approximately 22.3 maternal deaths for every 100,000 live births in the United States....Canada 8.4...US Black woman lead 49.5....Norway 0.0

US leads in high income nations...

Steve

Life expectancy

Canada 82.72
US 79.46

Steve yeah no doctor bills in Canada . People commit suicide over mounting medical bills in the good ole God , country and trucks USA. Finland are the happiest people .USA is a nightmare of stress . We also love our guns . The Charleston Heston NRA bullshit .in China you don't this gun happy and a 15 - year old killing classmates.

The United States spends nearly twice as much per person on health care as Canada:

2022 total cost per person
In 2022, the total cost per person for health care in the United States was $12,555, compared to $6,319 in Canada.

2022 percentage of GDP
In 2022, the United States spent 16.6% of its GDP on health care, compared to 11.2% in Canada.
Administration costs
In the United States, health care administration costs $1,059 per capita, compared to $307 per capita in Canada.

The United States spends more per person on health care than any other high-income nation. The average amount spent per person in comparable countries is about half of what the U.S. spends.

Well there ya go Steve , Don't get sick in good ole wave the flag USA.

There's a country in Asia they measure how happy you are , not how much money you have ,I forgot the name of the country now.

What happens in Canada is..... no refusal of service...no preexisting conditions...no need to find out if you are covered...and for most no catastrophic bills...

and don't get me going on cost of medication..lolol

Steve

Well I'm a Vet , So USA pays medical stuff . I feel sorry for kids entering the global working market now . They're probably 500k in the hole student debt . ok kid now bye rip off health insurance . Medicare care pays 80% , but if something happened and a bill of a million bucks , that's 200k of debt .I've used medicare in a pinch , them bills aren't no fun at 20%. Yeah pills another draining expense .

Yeah pills another draining expense .

I'll give an example

I use Metoprolol 100mg per day I do not carry insurance and don't really need it

My costs for 90 day supply $26.85
I checked out US prices/no insurance 100mg $528.00

"Physician, heal thyself..."

High cholesterol and 2 pills for being crazy from Army shrinks , free . Not worth it really . I should have went to college at 16 years old , Not join the stupid army. CT scans free for heart condition . Not really free army charges me about $500.00 a year , something like that . Nothing compared to civilian health care costs .

"Physician, heal thyself. kinda Tony , it's work being sane . it's chemical unbalances. Mental illness almost always turns to anger and violence . But some people are so crazy they don't know they're crazy.

Like shooters .

There ya go

I checked out US prices/no insurance 100mg $528.00

You're not crazy, Elvis... just confused

But Steve...? O_o
We have enough problems, I don't want Canada to join the US.

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I'm not confused , I produce 2 songs a month run a business with a heart condition and deal with life bullshit like this thread on... lets feel sorry for the CEO on bullshit health care. Agrue with you on religion lol

I don't want Canada to join the US.

Thanks, JAPOV, Il'l set up a conference call and let every Canadian know of your decision....I'm sure it will ease our anxieties....lol
Steve

Me, Elvis, and Dom... maybe Gavin... just want to visit and do some fishin'!

Put it this way, the us is only considered a poor health care system cause of the cost.

It's so "terrible" that smart students from all over the world wanna come here to practice.

There's no hospital in the world you'd rather be but in New York, or similar metropolis.

Yes, it's bad for the consumer. I stayed 6 days and it caught my insurance 100k, and that didn't include "private contractors™

I developed a tremendous respect for health care workers. What they go through on a daily basis the long hours , the constant complaining, but the way they handle gross sights , blood, and majority have genuine concerns for patients.

Not just a job.

But with greatness comes premium costs.

It's insane, don't know how you balance it.

Me, Elvis, and Dom... maybe Gavin... just want to visit and do some fishin'!


Now we're talking . My dad was born in Moosejaw Canada. I don't know why the hell they came to San Fran in 1940 or so , money I guess.

Dom I have no problem with health care workers , But the cost is obscene.

Vet Hospitals treat me good, for the vast amount of volume they receive of vets. I wish they'd stop saying thanks for your service , Shite I was in trouble most times

Me, Elvis, and Dom... maybe Gavin... just want to visit and do some fishin'!

You guys are in luck, I just checked the ice thickness this morning....another couple of inches and I'll be putting the hut out...

Me, Elvis, and Dom... maybe Gavin... just want to visit and do some fishin'!

You guys are in luck, I just checked the ice thickness this morning....another couple of inches and I'll be putting the hut out...

Ha Ha Ha , lets go

No argument about the costs, even copays on medicines. Fuckin walk out of the pharmacy with 3 pills lasting 30 days 100 bucks. And that's not exotic meds by any means how much is this [naughty word removed] without insurance?

I think pharma is more corrupt.

And the lawmakers.

Most people who practice medicine do what they have to keep their license

I was a Navy Corpsman(FMS)... Lol

You guys have NO IDEA what goes on behind the scenes

I won't bore you with my illustrious 2 year army hitch

Oh, go ahead

Re-locate nerve gas on Johnson Island
Test Tanks over a girder bridge at FT Knox Kentucky , In jail for drugs there
Protect Nixon from rioters at the White House , fist fight with the mess hall cook there
We missed DC and ended up in Maryland on a 3000 deuce and half half caravan
I told the officer in charge , what ya fuking stupid , court marshal on that
Went awol and broke horses in Livermore Calif , How they found me no clue .. in jail again
Played football , broke my ankle . I'm limping now in the winter
talked out of going to Nam from a combat vet , kid they would kill you. I was 17
Tell every girl war stories when I got home , worked pretty well getting laid
Thats the highlights
Thats disturbing

I think pharma is more corrupt.

And the lawmakers.

Yes

USA is full of stress . Trumps a ashole, but lets see if he does anything besides blow off his mouth

The main reason our wait times are so long is because so many greedy Doctors that graduate here in Canada, and other countries, want to become millionaires in a short time, which they can in the USA. So as soon as they can, they are off to the USA leaving us in short supply.

they are millionaires , that's the problem. Vet hospitals use Stanford grads , Not sure how that all works on being millionaires

Ben....Quit writing songs...there's a book to be written just in what you have here...lolol
Steve

What being a trouble maker ? All the bankers say here comes trouble , You girls ever dream about money , no . liars. What ya expect from a teenager in the army ?

You can always blame those rich doctors for the problems in our health care in our country, but is it really the main cause? I'm not on that bandwagon....It is one of the reasons, but IMO not the main one....an interesting statistic....35.5% of Cdns are overweight and 30% are obese...so 65.5% of us are fat pigs....that IMO is at the heart of the problem...think of all the diseases and health issues directly related to weight issues....diabetes, stroke,heart attacks, bypass surgery, hip replacement, knee replacement, liver/kidney issues etc, etc... 1 in 10 Cdns has diabetes, a crisis????....the moment we decide to become proactive in our own health care, instead of reactive we will see a drop in lineups, IMO....the doctors are not the problem....we, the people, are the problem...so everybody...stop complaining and lose 50 lbs

Steve

Keep writing songs , you'll lose weight from the stress , Listen to yourself sing , Jesus you suck. lol.

It takes money just to be a doctor.

When you think basic college today costs about 25-50 k per semester.

So by the time you are done it's 200 to 400 k just to graduate basic college.

student loans, maybe you get a percentage of help, but it has to be paid back.

Now if you have ambitions if being a doctor, you're going to need double that, if not triple that ormore.

Same time, you will have no money while doing it, and where do you live?

If the answer is parents, well you better believe they have serious money to flip that bill.

Gone are the days where a student can get a part time job at Starbucks and support themselves

Bull [naughty word removed] not with rent at 2000-3000 a month

So then you make a salary as an intern, then go to work for another Dr till you get out of debt, which can literally be a decade.

Many work for hospitals , and never go to private practice cause of the cost. cost of a place to work, and how many patients you have to see just to break even , discourages them

Not to mention the stress of going through all that.

You either have rich parents, or you basically don't become a Dr.

Maybe if foreign you can study free over there, then come here to pass certs.

But we wonder why Drs become so money hungry..they literally are.

You spend $5,000.00 per/mo on session players... Why don't you have better insurance?

No I don't . I'm a vet , free insurance and medicare . I'm pretty healthy for 71 , just that fuking heart problem that annoys me . I'd rather go out on music , than fuking life bullshit. Let's worry about a roof before I'm dead . I like music not fuking useless houses .

now after I gave some helpful info on mikes , your busting my balls , What's next religion again ?

Worry about Tony , not ole Elvis

Reducing triage down to a simple algorithm is probably the most useful thing AI can do... But they will never allow AI to counter the greed of big pharma or the FDA.

Insurance companies and lawyers have been dictating medical practice for many years... AI is streamlining that process as well.

Doctors have always been greedy and proud a'holes with a god complex...
Now, they're just pissed!

Hey, that's no way to treat your best inspiration!
Have some respect

Ha ha ha

It depends on where your statistics come from Steve. Using Statista, Canada's not even in the first 26 countries. Besides these statistics are impossible to measure. Too many variables. Depends on what they're using to compile the data. As far as successful surgeries... example, the surgeons they're getting the success rate from are either poor surgeons (more bad outcomes), or great surgeons (more good outcomes). I did know one Canadian that had to wait for 6 months for cancer surgery. And he had to travel 400 miles. Also, Canadian taxes are 52% higher than the USA. Most of which goes to their health system. As far as the USA, my wife and I have had great experiences with good doctors and great surgeons.

John

I agree, rankings are about cost...to consumers and access.

If you don't mind waiting 6 weeks for an appointment national care is for you.

We also have a lot of slum areas that bring our top end down.

But as I said, as long as your covered you can't beat the top places in new York.


Mount Sinai Health System
According to Newsweek/Statista, Mount Sinai Hospital is ranked among the best in the world for patient care. It was ranked number one in New York City for "World's Best Smart Hospitals 2025" and number one in New York City for five service lines in "World's Best Specialized Hospitals 2025".

NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital
In 2005, U.S.News & World Report ranked NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital as one of the nation's top 10 hospitals. It was also the only New York metropolitan-area hospital to rank in all 17 medical specialties listed.

NYU Langone
NYU Langone hospitals have some of the highest rankings in the United States, and nine of their specialties are among the top five in the nation.
New York's maternal mortality rate
New York's maternal mortality rate is better than much of the country, ranking seventh for the metric.

And everybody in America knows that the VA is precisely what socialized medicine looks like... On a good day

war time medicine is a different thing altogether

Not to mention there are many Americans who never pay a dime for treatment.

So we have FREE medicine here, when it's not free.

It comes out of donations.

But cities in poverty who can't afford quality care skews the numbers held up by the top facilities and areas

It was Reagan who started the law that says no hospital can turn away somebody who can't pay

WTF!?
I've been battling with the VA since '92.

"ACTIVE DUTY" medical care is an entirely different ball game!
How do you think I know all doctors are pretentious a'holes!
"Overworked and underpaid, I'd be making 5 times as much money as a civilian! This $hit barely pays for my education!"

Trust me, Dom... Doctors only do it for the money and prestige. Even THEY laugh about the "Hippocratic Oath"...

All a doctor does is cross-check your symptoms and lab results with a list of most probable diagnoses, then shoot those results to his office staff to make certain your insurance will cover the treatment. If the insurance provider balks, then the doctor provides another diagnosis for you... so he can still get paid.

Not true. And yeah, I've been a patient of a number of callus assholes, and recently was roaming hallways and getting snubbed by some after making the mistake of saying good morning.

I know all about that. But there's just as many who do care. I had a prominent cardiologist weap when he told me my dad was gone.

He said, son never seen anything like this, I dint know if you believe in God, or not, but this one was out of my hands.

There are a lot of dicks too you're right about that.

But if you wanna be rich as a Dr you better be a highly specialized doctor, where you can get your investment back fast.

The basic Dr is not rich,vl and you'd be surprised how modest they live cause of debt.

But nothing wrong with getting paid well for your services.

Wed gladly take the money for our music if we could, while still loving what we do

You're missing the point...
What does a doctor's feelings or compensation have to do with his practice?
Medicine is just the statistical study of human physiology and chemical response.
Today, that information will fit on most phones...

All a doctor does is cross-check your symptoms and lab results with a list of most probable diagnoses, then shoot those results to his office staff to make certain your insurance will cover the treatment. If the insurance provider balks, then the doctor provides another diagnosis for you... so he can still get paid.

It's all a fuk'n racket!

Cause you wrote this

Trust me, Dom... Doctors only do it for the money and prestige. Even THEY laugh about the "Hippocratic Oath"...