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"Ember" Lyrics by Dave Gill Music and vocals via Suno

https://suno.com/song/2213e98b-2d94-46dc-8c0e-d496cf3def77


"Where there's a Gill, there's a way"
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Hey well written man , no doubt robots do a good job , I imagine they will only improve
rock on


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Thank you, Elvis.

Peace,

Dave


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I love how you used ember in this song, very nicely done, all the way through.

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Thank you, Matt. My inspiration for this came from your "Kindling" post:

Originally Posted by MFB III
David you are a glowing ember, keep warming the world around you, and if enough folks follow your example you could start a bonfire of love in your area of the world. Thanks for your heartwarming g comment, your like and your listen.

:-)

Peace,

Dave


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Hey Dave,
Yeah cool I like that. A duet. Female voice singing the bridge....that works I think.
Good stuff.
Bill

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Thank you, Bill. The duet version was created from my selecting the Folk style of music in Suno. Happy accident? :-)

Thank you very much for the listen and feedback, sir!!

Peace,

Dave


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Weird, I typed up an in depth review but it got nuked somehow.

In short, you need to rewrite "one and only" out of your lyric. I have used it myself too often, but it really is a worn out cliche. Ember is a nice word to build around, and I would rewrite the cliche lines and refocus the song to pay off the Ember focus in each verse/chorus. Use descriptive words that are less common, and remmeber to advance the story to a new place, good or bad, in each verse and even consider switching up the chorus lines so they don't repeat exactly each time through. I think that would serve your song well.

I suggest always posting a full text version of your lyrics with your song link so it is easy to breakdown while typing a response. I had broken down several examples but clicking on your link caused a hiccup and for me to lose my post. And now I would have to go back out again to re-view the lyrics on Suno.

Anyway, some thoughts. Cliches are bummers when it drowns out the best part of the song, which is the ember thread/progression.


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I'm not sure how I missed your response, Brian, but I'm sorry I didn't see this sooner. I will definitely consider his and see what else I can come up with.

Thank you very much for your listen and suggs!!!

Peace,

Dave


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You can use cliches if you twist em different , they do it all the time


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Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
Weird, I typed up an in depth review but it got nuked somehow.

In short, you need to rewrite "one and only" out of your lyric. I have used it myself too often, but it really is a worn out cliche. Ember is a nice word to build around, and I would rewrite the cliche lines and refocus the song to pay off the Ember focus in each verse/chorus. Use descriptive words that are less common, and remmeber to advance the story to a new place, good or bad, in each verse and even consider switching up the chorus lines so they don't repeat exactly each time through. I think that would serve your song well.

I suggest always posting a full text version of your lyrics with your song link so it is easy to breakdown while typing a response. I had broken down several examples but clicking on your link caused a hiccup and for me to lose my post. And now I would have to go back out again to re-view the lyrics on Suno.

Anyway, some thoughts. Cliches are bummers when it drowns out the best part of the song, which is the ember thread/progression.

Okay.. Worked on a couple of things. How's this one?


https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=14903309


[V1]
The beach gets cool when the sun goes down
without a soul in sight
You and I decide to start
a bonfire in the night
when we run out of driftwood
and watch as the flames die
I hold you close to warm you
then you begin to cry

[V2]
Summer's almost over
and soon you'll have to leave
I want to know you better
but there's no chance for reprieve
the fire's glow is fading
as I try to warm your hand
Though neither of us say it
I know you understand

[CH]
Back home when you feel
cold and lonely
I need you to remember
though the flame is gone
I'll always be your
warm and glowing ember

[BR]
Inside our feeling's burn
Our passion will not wait
Though the fire light is dim
the heat within is great

In the midnight sun
we fell in love
In the midnight sun
we fell in love

[V3]
A couple years have come and gone
My life forever changed
No goodbye. No sad, sad song
just memories remain
I watch the waves as they kiss the sand
I think of you and I
My heart can feel that glow again
as I begin to cry

[CH]
Here at home when I feel
cold and lonely
I can still remember
though the flame is gone
you'll always be my
warm and glowing ember

[CH]
Here at home when I feel
cold and lonely
I will always remember
though the flame is gone
you'll forever be my
warm and glowing ember

[OUTRO]
In the midnight sun
we fell in love
I will always remember
In the midnight sun
we fell in love
I will always remember
In the midnight sun
I fell in love with you
My warm and glowing ember


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Your reporting , she knows all that she's standing right there. You could ask her questions and not be reporting. Should we start
a bonfire in the night ? Now its not reporting , your talking to her
if I hold you close will you begin to cry , talking to her.

There was one country hit that reported , but 99% they don't


if your on a corner talking to someone , your not going to say to that person
We're here eating a sandwich , that's reporting. They know that , their standing right there

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They reported , check out v1 . v2 they go to talking to her


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So "reporting" is a bad thing then?


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Usually in the songwriting world of rules
I was called out several times on reporting
Now i automatically avoid it

It really doesn’t make any sense
Girl we’re sitting on this couch and am telling you I love , that’s reporting like in your V1

David you and me are talking on the internet
That’s reporting , we know that .

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That band gets away with it , their fans aren’t going to say your reporting, only a writer would notice it in Nashville. They write all their own songs I'm aware of . it's funny I would remember the song , it's old now .Their V1 makes no sense , you would not say that,

You're riding right beside me in my car....You would not say that , silly she's right there
Looking like you wouldn't tell me no
I'm thinking about taking it too far
I don't think that we can make it home
A hotel room or a parking lot
'Cause I got it bad and I can't stop
The feeling that I gotta have you right now

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