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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
What a pair. Donny Bonespur and Peter Thiel's Pocket Square want to lead the 1% and get there on the backs of a Republican Party taken over by extremist weirdos.

Really, John?
I can't think of anything weirder than Cackling Kamala and the second coming of her majesty Michelle O... lorded over by Bernie O'Biden!

Or the "crazies" that go for that sort of thing... Despite their history...

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Sorry Tony but DiaperFull Donny and Peter Thiel's Toilet Roll are far worse than any other option. A full blown narcissist with hurt feelings and a billionaire's pull toy are not a recipe for good leadership.

You know there are a number of important Republicans who actually do have a conscience who have abandoned Trump's party in favour of Kamala and Tim.

There are also former White House staffers who have done the same. In addition, there are organized groups of Republicans voting Democrat this time because they see DumpTrump as the only option.

And Con Trump deFelon was so being himself when he said the US Medal of Honor is less than a Medal of Freedom....which he gave to the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Devin Nunes and Jim Jordan and others, among them 3 golfers. Of course that is because people who die for their country are, according to Donnie Draftdodger, losers.


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Sorry Tony but DiaperFull Donny and Peter Thiel's Toilet Roll are far worse than any other option. A full blown narcissist with hurt feelings and a billionaire's pull toy are not a recipe for good leadership.

You know there are a number of important Republicans who actually do have a conscience who have abandoned Trump's party in favour of Kamala and Tim.

There are also former White House staffers who have done the same. In addition, there are organized groups of Republicans voting Democrat this time because they see DumpTrump as the only option.

And Con Trump deFelon was so being himself when he said the US Medal of Honor is less than a Medal of Freedom....which he gave to the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Devin Nunes and Jim Jordan and others, among them 3 golfers. Of course that is because people who die for their country are, according to Donnie Draftdodger, losers.

You're in full on CNN mode lol... Desperate death rattles.

People who have died fighting for freedom are honored because their battle is over... But the war rages on.

On a side note: MY ankles almost excluded ME from military service.
One month of my bootcamp training was spent in medical hold.
Today, my ankles are the source of my greatest pain... and disability.

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Nope, CNN does not come up with great nicknames like Humpty Trumpy and Peter Thiel's Zipper Minion.


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Nope, CNN does not come up with great nicknames like Humpty Trumpy and Peter Thiel's Zipper Minion.

Lol... smile

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its a fuking rat race , vote for who want , it won't change , Rat -race and money

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Originally Posted by bennash
its a fuking rat race , vote for who want , it won't change , Rat -race and money

Can't argue with that...
But who would you rather bank with?
-The new globalist MOB...
-Or the old Nationalists...

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Not sure really , I'm still in that Rat-Race . maybe the rich boys . Calif is blue , don't matter really here . Liberals would vote for Daffy -Duck , over Trump. I imagine Georgia would do about the same on the metaphor. Trumps got more money and he is tricky , he could pull it off .

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Atlanta is the New York of the South lol...
I'm from Birmingham wink

The Dems call Trump "tricky" because he's effective...
Effective at undermining their greedy globalist schemes.

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Its a flawed system , Parties just care if their party wins . Then battle with each other for 4-years. The Hatfield and Mccoys as we the people suffer. Probably mostly run by the Federal Reserve and Wall St . But its the best system we got. So what ya do ? not much. Trump is knock -knockin on heavens door . I'm not buying its all money and power to him . his got 5 billion . his 78 . I don't care how rich you are , he's thinking 10% of life is left . Nixon resigned over F-bombs on tapes I guess . Trumps a lot smarter than Nixon was . That Viet-Nam bullshit . Bombs away on brown people in rice patties .

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Tony, you mean effective like "Tricky Dick" who had to resign the presidency?

I expect Barrelbottom Trump and Peter Thiel's Organ Monkey will undermine themselves


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Tony, you mean effective like "Tricky Dick" who had to resign the presidency?

I expect Barrelbottom Trump and Peter Thiel's Organ Monkey will undermine themselves

Kamala and crew are already undermining themselves calling for "uniform global taxation of businesses..."

Money and Greed are shrinking the World, gentlemen...
Soon, there will no longer be any individuality of culture or creed.

There will only be the one who controls global commerce...

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A uniform corporate tax rate is not bad policy and definitely has benefits Tony. As a CPA I know the lengths companies go to to minimize their overall tax position.

The OECD has been working on this for some time now. (Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development)

A uniform rate would mean all companies pay taxes in jurisdictions where they operate and earn their income. Now, Starbucks, Amazon etc can have its trade mark owned by a Dutch subsidiary of an Irish company and channel lots of income (royalty payments) through those favourable jurisdictions. It resulted in US companies parking lots of money off shore at a very low net tax cost.

But it is a worldwide problem and "a race to the bottom" as countries compete for these large companies' business.

The Netherlands, Ireland, Luxembourg, the Caymans, Channel Islands etc etc are full of office buildings where head offices are simply files in a cabinet with local representatives well paid for being "local".

As president, Trump gave large companiesies a tax holiday on their foreign cash holdings if they broughtmonies back to the USA, (at the time that money was only taxed if brought back to USA AND these companies were actually lending their excess cash to the USA instead of paying taxes to the USA) At the time of the tax break, Trump said it would benefit US workers because that money would be reinvested in the USA, but the companies mostly rewarded their shareholders with dividends and share buybacks and themselves with debt reductions.


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
A uniform corporate tax rate is not bad policy and definitely has benefits Tony. As a CPA I know the lengths companies go to to minimize their overall tax position.

The OECD has been working on this for some time now. (Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development)

A uniform rate would mean all companies pay taxes in jurisdictions where they operate and earn their income. Now, Starbucks, Amazon etc can have its trade mark owned by a Dutch subsidiary of an Irish company and channel lots of income (royalty payments) through those favourable jurisdictions. It resulted in US companies parking lots of money off shore at a very low net tax cost.

But it is a worldwide problem and "a race to the bottom" as countries compete for these large companies' business.

The Netherlands, Ireland, Luxembourg, the Caymans, Channel Islands etc etc are full of office buildings where head offices are simply files in a cabinet with local representatives well paid for being "local".

As president, Trump gave large companiesies a tax holiday on their foreign cash holdings if they broughtmonies back to the USA, (at the time that money was only taxed if brought back to USA AND these companies were actually lending their excess cash to the USA instead of paying taxes to the USA) At the time of the tax break, Trump said it would benefit US workers because that money would be reinvested in the USA, but the companies mostly rewarded their shareholders with dividends and share buybacks and themselves with debt reductions.

Seriously, John...?
You're arguing that the most productive "free market" countries deserve to be penalized by globalist banking entities in the name of fair trade?

Lead, follow, or get out of the way of real progress and sovereign national economic independence!

THAT'S WHAT AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM LOOKS LIKE!

Necessity is the mother of invention, and freedom is the inspiration of the industrious.

Free market competition lowers inflation, John.
Communists always complain when they run out of slaves...

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You are missing the point Tony. This is beneficial to the USA and the entire trading system. And the OECD is not banks, it is "the economies" of member countries this organization is looking to improve.

https://www.oecd.org/en.html

Have a quick look and see the the G20 is in fact busy with modernizing tax policies as we speak. The USA was a founding member btw.

The OECD, in their words, exists to promote economic growth, prosperity, and sustainable development for all member countries


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
You are missing the point Tony. This is beneficial to the USA and the entire trading system. And the OECD is not banks, it is "the economies" of member countries this organization is looking to improve.

https://www.oecd.org/en.html

Have a quick look and see the the G20 is in fact busy with modernizing tax policies as we speak.

Seriously, John...?
You're arguing that the most productive "free market" countries deserve to be penalized by globalist banking entities in the name of fair trade?

Lead, follow, or get out of the way of real progress and sovereign national economic independence!

THAT'S WHAT AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM LOOKS LIKE!

Necessity is the mother of invention, and freedom is the inspiration of the industrious.

Free market competition lowers inflation, John.
Communists always complain when they run out of slaves...

Globalization and centralization of Government controlled commerce will never be a good idea, John!

A global tax on industry is just a stepping stone toward world government and a single global monetary system... WAKE UP!

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Tony, the OECD has nothing to do with banks.

Has everything to do with building out sustainable economies of its members...one of them, the USA, was a founder.

All it would do is to have say Apple pay taxes in the USA instead of shifting it to another jurisdiciton in some manufactured tax driven transaction.

The USA wins! What a novel idea, US corporations paying taxes in the USA on income they earn there


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Tony, the OECD has nothing to do with banks.

Has everything to do with building out sustainable economies of its members...one of them, the USA, was a founder.

I give you the UN.
We all make mistakes...

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Yes Jesus is king , Snow white is the princess .
Santa Claus , Easter Bunny , and the tooth fairy
And the election is going change your life.
Were all going to make money with music , on 8 trillion songs out there.
Half of them , AI songs . Look what I did . Most of them have Fairy Emojis.
We can count on a few things , Amazon trucks will keep rolling, And April 15th .
Paychecks won't keep up with inflation .
Will keep having wars , by cavemen .The highly intelligent species , we like to call ourselves .Must be the new Apple phone .
California will lead the way in technology , and Georgia will quote the bible .China is just shaking its head , stupid Americans .
All statements made are for entertainment purposes , were all walking cartoons .

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Maybe you should get a prescription for paroxetine Bennash ??? laugh

John smile

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LOLOL...

HOLY BOLOGNA AND FAIRY EMOJIS laugh

Rock On, Elvis!

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Maybe you should a get a prescription for believing Politian's bs John. I'm doing lovely , kicking out 4 songs a month run a business , Keep a young wife happy . That is pure genius right there . What you doing believing Trump and Harris Bullshit ? Fairy -tales .and Elon your A.I. and Veterans affair site sucks .Lets get with the program . Which criminal do want ? take your pick . Trump , Harris and long shot Kennedy . Well a line of Freuds coke would be nice . But i passed all that . more fairy tales by PHDS . if your rich we have some bs for you , your poor , out of luck baby . any other stupid comments on my sanity ?. I'm like George Carlin , I don't believe a fuking word they say . But we are geniuses in Calif , try to keep up , your boring me with your in the box comments . China actually built America , that goes back to the opium trade , way back . Funded is a better word . Railroads , ect ect ect. So thank a chinese person when you see one . Nothing changes were still funded by China . Global economics. The slave trade made easy . 13-year olds making whatever. Maybe Clinton liked asian women , hard to say

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Have to agree...
The VA is a fuk'n joke!

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Right Army and AI , u suck, Well maybe they should talk to Elon , he's right down the street. WTF . not really a joke , Health Insurance by Kasier , Lets say 1500.00 a month . if they take you with pre-existing problems . (Thrive) , Bs ,they want your money .with little to pay out as possible. But nice BS line (Thrive). Lets see Emergency visit. $13,000 . Better have insurance or them so called doctors , will put you in debt for life .Watch them threating letters from Dr Kildare . You can bet all them fuking Politian's have great insurance , And were paying for it ., God Bless Rich America . Don't want them pricks to get a broken mouth . That'll cost us . Co -pay by the working class .

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Originally Posted by bennash
Maybe you should a get a prescription for believing Politian's bs John. I'm doing lovely , kicking out 4 songs a month run a business , Keep a young wife happy . That is pure genius right there . What you doing believing Trump and Harris Bullshit ? Fairy -tales .and Elon your A.I. and Veterans affair site sucks .Lets get with the program . Which criminal do want ? take your pick . Trump , Harris and long shot Kennedy . Well a line of Freuds coke would be nice . But i passed all that . more fairy tales by PHDS . if your rich we have some bs for you , your poor , out of luck baby . any other stupid comments on my sanity ?. I'm like George Carlin , I don't believe a fuking word they say . But we are geniuses in Calif , try to keep up , your boring me with your in the box comments . China actually built America , that goes back to the opium trade , way back . Funded is a better word . Railroads , ect ect ect. So thank a chinese person when you see one . Nothing changes were still funded by China . Global economics. The slave trade made easy . 13-year olds making whatever. Maybe Clinton liked asian women , hard to say


Thanks for telling me what I believe Bennish. And here I was having trouble believing anything.



Best, John

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Ha ha , well it’s a lot of bs
I’ll believe what you believe this week , up to Friday.
Monkeys, yes we cut all the tracks , no you didn’t wrecking crew did , the AI of the 70ties.
Trump or Harris ? No idea man really .
Just talking smack .

Let’s see 19 indictments , or carrer politian on Harris ? Calif is blue , it doesn't matter what I think . Calif will be Harris .So Elon backs Trump , Elon is in Calif , Not sure how that works .

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We can bitch and moan about the Va
But if it were paying for private service
Wed be living in tents ,
Pretty bad on health care and costs .When going to emergency for a hour and a bill for 13k . something is wrong. Then a bill 2 months later for the doctor for 3k . How ( Thrive ) justifies that , no idea .

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Originally Posted by bennash
We can bitch and moan about the Va
But if it were paying for private service
Wed be living in tents ,
Pretty bad on health care and costs .When going to emergency for a hour and a bill for 13k . something is wrong. Then a bill 2 months later for the doctor for 3k . How ( Thrive ) justifies that , no idea .
Elvis ...you're in the wrong country for health care...come to Canada...universal health care...those numbers don't exist


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Probably , lucky I’m a vet, though they’re overwhelmed on Viet nam vets mostly , it will desert storm vets next when they get old and problems , right down the line War after war on vets with health issues at 70 or so

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Brian,
I've enjoyed the site and like having a place to put up a song. Your site is a habit for me. For my part, I'll be happy to pledge and give $300, but in all sincerity, this site has become mostly about arguments.

In my opinion, it makes little sense to contribute to a songwriting site where there are things like the rant section, political arguments, and interpersonal arguments that are allowed to go on and on, eclipsing the songwriting efforts.

So my pledge is contingent on a commitment those things going away and the trolls being told to shut it down.
Yes, I know that I have been a combatant often, but it is the only website where I am. On all other sites that I visit, insults are not allowed to fly at me, and I bother no one.

If my position seems unreasonable, I will ungrudgingly accept things the way that they are, but do not see the point in contributing money to something that is most likely going to flame itself out with off-topic vitriol anyways.

Very sincerely,

Martin

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So, you want a site where he who pays the most gets to "dog pile" on whoever he wants, complain about whatever he wants, and crap wherever he wants?

Knock yourself out, Martydom.

$20 a year is all I'm willing to pay to waste time in your company...

I'll say again, "YOU ARE THE POISON KILLING THIS SITE!"
Good luck with it...

Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Brian

Tony was accommodating enough, to provide an on the spot textbook example of what I am not willing to contribute to.

If I were a MOD, I would insist upon the authority to "move" threads, or individual posts, to where they belong instead of deleting them. I would be the site organizer, the janitor.

This thread would serve as evidence. It would be the public reference for everyone to plainly see who the bad actors on this site are.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Brian

Tony was accommodating enough, to provide an on the spot textbook example of what I am not willing to contribute to.

Remind me, Martydom...
What DO YOU actually contribute to this site?

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Tony

My comment was to Brian not you.
I stated my personal and singular terms for giving the site a few bucks. I've got a right to that.
I did not mention you and I did not troll your comments and paste them about, like you have done here, in an effort to spread vitriol.

I would appreciate the same consideration.

Marty

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Tony

My comment was to Brian not you.
I stated my personal and singular terms for giving the site a few bucks. I've got a right to that.
I did not mention you and I did not troll your comments and paste them about, like you have done here, in an effort to spread vitriol.

I would appreciate the same consideration.

Marty

Evidence...

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In the meantime, Bonespur J Trump and JD Vance, Peter Thiel's omega dog, don't like the ACA. Bonespur because the ACA is an Obama legacy and JD because he is a vet and qualifies for VA programs.


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Evidence...

No takers here Tony.
Please leave me out if this thread.

Marty

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Yeah its ruff Viet - Nam agent orange . Stupid wars


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Originally Posted by bennash
Yeah its ruff Viet - Nam agent orange . Stupid wars

At least the government has identified "agent orange..."

We "Desert Storm" vets are still waiting... while the VA and DOD loses our records!

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They know what it is , Last combat vet I talked to , his teeth were growing thru his gums . Fuking wars and ashole Politian's. Yale boys -cavemen , small penis I guess . He was having a hard time collecting money , been a few years .

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Originally Posted by bennash
They know what it is , Last combat vet I talked to , his teeth were growing thru his gums . Fuking wars and ashole Politian's. Yale boys. He was having a hard time collecting money , been a few years .

When I signed up for the "burn pit registry", I had to prove to the DOD that I was even in Saudi! If I didn't still have my original DD214 those a'holes would probably just write me off...

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Red tape , China , Japan , Russia , USA , Probably Saudis . They all are building the war -machine bigger each year . AI toy jets , Never ending . Planet is getting smaller , But we still like to do war . I imagine if Putin didn't have nuclear war heads , He'd be taken out by a sniper by now . Hard to say .

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Originally Posted by bennash
Red tape , China , Japan , Russia , USA , Probably Saudis . They all are building the war -machine bigger each year . AI toy jets , Never ending . Planet is getting smaller , But we still like to do war .

Why do you say "We"?
Only 0.5% of the planet gets to wage war...
The rest of us just do as we're told!

And 20y/o kids don't know any better...

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And 20y/o kids don't know any better. Yup thats it . We pumped billions to Ukraine. So were basically having a war with Russia . odd terminology on calling it something else . Regan did the same thing , I forget now , some Bs with South America . Basically real-estate wars now.... complicated chess games. Russia is using Bit-Coin to buy cheap from China to build tanks ect , So its basically a quiet World War 3 , I guess .

Maybe we need some estrogen with Harris . The dicks been running the world for awhile now . She can't fuk it up any any worse than men have for 200-years . the swinging dick syndrome . lets geta some pussy power. Grab em by the dick baby . Yes we want a guy who said grab em by the pussy again , Well maybe the 19 law -suits , he's learned his lesson . No porn stars Mister President . Holding the Bible was a nice touch . Putin meet me at the Hilton , well solve this war , Kisses Harris . oh don't worry about Willie , he won't mind

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
"Blood on my hands" Melodramatic?

As for identity, mine is Martin Lide, architect, Houston, Texas...google it.

Brian

I spend a lot of time on songs. Passionate hobby. I don't write a lot of songs but I spend a lot of time on the ones that I do write.
I come here to post them, as other places.

This site is unique though...as a for instance, on one occasion DOM (fdemetreo) went on the web and found a video of me playing a guitar and singing, posted it HERE and then ridiculed and cyber bullied a 70 year old man about his physical appearance. What kind of grown man does that? And no one here did anything about that.

On another occasion, YOUR MODERATOR KEVIN called me a fascist because I said that I was voting for Trump. The insult was idiocy. But incredibly, he is a moderator here.

YOU uniquely, let garbage like that go on, on YOUR SITE... UNCONTESTED, and yet, you're going to lecture me about handing these people's $hit back to them?
No sale Brian. If I was your vision of a model citizen, would I just let them dump on me at will, as much as they like? As you said, many others have left as a result of the atmosphere. Do you suggest that I leave?

It's YOUR site. You don't enforce your own stated rules, so it's left to predictably devolve into insults and flame war free-for-alls. "All your regulars leave" and you blame people like me for handing trolls insults back.

Other moderators put an end to these things. I visit several sites, on FB and other places. None of them are allowed to become the mess that this place is.



And yeah, if I were a moderator Dom would be gone, Tony would be gone, politics would be gone, religion would be gone. And any personality that disturbed the peace as an ongoing pattern would be gone. Standard practice every where but here. If the site couldn't survive with cordial discussions limited to songwriting and the music industry...I'd conclude that it shouldn't exist.



Do as you will with it. I'll do as I will with my $300 bucks. I realize that it is no money and not going to keep your doors open, but I'm not going to give it to an enterprise that is run wrong, by-the-numbers, allows people to call me all sorts of names and then blames me for handing the $hit back.

Martin Lide

Lol... "MARTYDOM" all day long! laugh

Biggest manpussy I've ever known...

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Aren't you the tough guy, Tony?
Tough talk on the internet, but nothing more than that.

If this site keeps you, it truly deserves you.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Aren't you the tough guy, Tony?
Tough talk on the internet, but nothing more than that.

If this site keeps you, it truly deserves you.

Do you really think you're fooling anyone, Martydommanpussy?

You followed me (as usual) to another thread and took a $h!t... complaining about politics and religion (as usual), and blaming me (as usual).

I should be flattered, I suppose...

Love that "Break of dawn" song by the way!
Liberally biased of course, but nothing overtly religious/political.
A very sad story about prowling, alcoholic, drug addled, mothers and wives prone to adultery...
"It was the Coke!" lol
I'm sure the ladies love that! Bravo!

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/18mzXUrKDwOtOoBZh8FJsF9iE_URZgYEb/view?usp=sharing

Ahhh... the good ol'days, thanks for that!
That was a party invitation that I sent to several people. An ad for the "ATTENTION" thread premier lol!

That was the predecessor to the Rant Arena... I figured alcohol would make it more fun laugh

However, that was before I realized Marty/Dom share the same A$$HOLE!

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By the way...
Who the hell saves PMs to the cloud?!?
That was three years ago!

Collecting premeditated "private" evidence..?

LOLOL laugh

Suck a dick and be happy, FREAK!

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