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Band on your Left hand
Verse
I used to like Van Halen
Way back in the day.
I thought Eddie and the boys
Really knew how to play.
Pre chorus
Coldplay, Green Day, Lone star
Steely Dan and the Cars
But by far the brightest star
Shines wherever you are.
Chorus
Many bands have brought me joy
Made me a happy man.
But my all-time favorite’s
The band on your left hand.
Verse
The songs you sing to my heart
Bring me peace of mind.
You’ll always be number one.
The best of all time.
Pre chorus
Coldplay, Green Day, Lone star
Steely Dan and the Cars
But by far the brightest star
Shines wherever you are.
Chorus
Many bands have brought me joy
Made me a happy man.
But my all-time favorite’s
The band on your left hand.


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This really caught my attention...first the concept is freaking great....in the right hands, this could be a big country hit..great lyric...3/4 time is perfect and this is the best AI I've heard anywhere...don't mess with the lyric....

Congrats on what you've done here
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I like the idea, here's a few thoughts.

Re write the verses, the pre chorus is good, the chorus kind of sums it up. But mentioning van Halen in first verse, then all those bands in pre chorus is redundant.

Instead of saying she's the star , explain how... she brings you joy, maybe speak of the music she makes., figuratively

And I think pop rock would be better than country

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Or country pop

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Congrats Carroll! You really nailed it here. Your lyric is awesome. And I love the way AI gave it the proper feel. In my opinion the country waltz is perfect. I would have loaded that track in my DAW cut it into pieces and rearranged it a bit. The instrumental before the first chorus is too long and I would have repeated the hook line once again at the very end. But that's just the way I hear it. Your version is pretty cool.

All the best
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Carroll, there is not a single solitary country sentiment in this lyric to be trying a country waltz which is all but dead.

Modern country is pop music these days and might work fine

But an old guy who is singing to a country waltz beat, is not going to be comparing his wife's love to green day or cold play or even the cars, maybe steely dan....but that's a stretch

And definitely not van Halen

Please consider your sources when mulling critiques.

Even so this waltz is bad, you can find a better country medium if you try hard enough

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Yep', cute concept! This will likely evolve...

Perhaps a story about a guitar player... all the bands he has played in... till he finally settled down wink


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Being a professional dancer and instructor for over 30 years, and having taught the country waltz to quite a few people I am fully qualified to say the country waltz is alive and well throughout the world, and country music is replete with3/4 time music and always will be...so please do consider who is critiquing your post...

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Originally Posted by VNORTH2
Being a professional dancer and instructor for over 30 years, and having taught the country waltz to quite a few people I am fully qualified to say the country waltz is alive and well throughout the world, and country music is replete with3/4 time music and always will be...so please do consider who is critiquing your post...

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First if all wasn't responding to you, secondly the last country waltz was a hit in 1967, it ain't very popular. Which is ok , but it ain't "perfect"

And if you are writing country, which I don't much, for me if doesn't feel honest, but to say speaking of green day and cold play, and Van Halen is a perfect style for a waltz????

And no drinking trucks or cheating for old school country? No Patsy Kline crazy?

It's not right backdrop, what's country about this?

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Everyone has an opinion on what they think the style of a song should be, pop, rock, rap country, 3/4, 6/8 etc, etc...you chose 3/4 time with a country feel...that works perfectly as do other styles....my suggestion is you go with what you brought to the table here...in the end it's irrelevant what anyone thinks about a song except the person deciding to get it to air for you....this song, as is, is just as capable of being a hit as any song.....read what is written here by others...but IMHO the lyric is just fine thank you and the music fits it nicely

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I've played guitar like Willie and Waylon
Drove the kids wild like Eddie VanHalen
Never failed to impress the fans
But, I was always the loneliest guy in the band...


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Originally Posted by VNORTH2
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Everyone has an opinion on what they think the style of a song should be, pop, rock, rap country, 3/4, 6/8 etc, etc...you chose 3/4 time with a country feel...that works perfectly as do other styles....my suggestion is you go with what you brought to the table here...in the end it's irrelevant what anyone thinks about a song except the person deciding to get it to air for you....this song, as is, is just as capable of being a hit as any song.....read what is written here by others...but IMHO the lyric is just fine thank you and the music fits it nicely

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He didn't chose 3/4 time udio did. It was his choice to keep it sweep . He shoulda swept.
But as I said before I was rudely interrupted the idea is good.

It needs to be more about HER, than all the rock bands since that is the hook, .... wedding band

The object of the song doesn't appear till the chorus, When u ideally should answer, who, what, or when in the first line.

This is not a country song, which means it would fit perfectly in modern country

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Even wore makeup back in the day
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Originally Posted by JAPOV
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Carroll
Everyone has an opinion on what they think the style of a song should be, pop, rock, rap country, 3/4, 6/8 etc, etc...you chose 3/4 time with a country feel...that works perfectly as do other styles....my suggestion is you go with what you brought to the table here...in the end it's irrelevant what anyone thinks about a song except the person deciding to get it to air for you....this song, as is, is just as capable of being a hit as any song.....read what is written here by others...but IMHO the lyric is just fine thank you and the music fits it nicely

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He didn't chose 3/4 time udio did. It was his choice to keep it sweep . He shoulda swept.
But as I said before I was rudely interrupted the idea is good.

It needs to be more about HER, than all the rock bands since that is the hook, .... wedding band

The object of the song doesn't appear till the chorus, When u ideally should answer, who, what, or when in the first line.

This is not a country song, which means it would fit perfectly in modern country

This is a way better critique, Fd, I get where you're coming from on this
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As she packed my groin with ice
Two shots of morphine made me feel bolder
But my hard rockin' days were over

She drives her ambulance real fast
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My lifestyle isn't quite what I planned
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As annoying as Dom is, he is right here.

Juxtaposing Green day with random musical memories in a Texas waltz is too split of a personality. The references should have stayed within the overall genre of "country." Alabama, Alan Jackson, Keith Whitley et al.

I am sitting in Fredericksburg Tx as I type. I was in Luchenbach yesterday watching a band play Swing. People into Swing, polkas, and waltzes don't likely have Green day on their Spotify list.

Microscopic niche.

And playing off of the two meanings of "band" worked, but didn't really ring the bell Imho. Seemed a bit fabricated.

Having said all that, the tune is a pleasant listen.

Dom...What happened to [poof?

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I'm a big fan of line dancing and I can confirm that there are quite a few good recent country, country pop and country rock releases that you can dance a waltz to. Funny that most people don't even recognize they are in 3/4. I still think this works well, but a good song can be successful in more than one genre and this lyric is really good. But that's just my personal opinion.

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Originally Posted by Rob B.
there are quite a few good recent country, country pop and country rock releases that you can dance a waltz to. Funny that most people don't even recognize they are in 3/4..

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3/4 is the rhythm of the heart beat, people get it right away. And there's tons of great 3/4 or 6/8 time songs which is more common. ....unchained melody

But the subject matter should support it. I don't think any of those bands ever did a song in 3/4 time. But it's never going to be 4/4 time in terms of popularity.

And in Carroll defense udio determined that, they offer some horrible crap, you can spend hours sifting through, to find something good

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Marty said....
And playing off of the two meanings of "band" worked, but didn't really ring the bell Imho. Seemed a bit fabricated.

That's interesting...that is the first thing I heard and thought was clever....lol

You can change a couple of names to please the country folk but the rest still works for me


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This is actually 6/8

A,few,beers and it's easier to hear, plus not listening on my phone

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
This is actually 6/8

A,few,beers and it's easier to hear, plus not listening on my phone

You may be right...sorting out the differences by ear can be tough....3/4 time is generally a standard waltz whereas 6/8 time usually is reflected in a Viennese waltz...

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Originally Posted by VNORTH2
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This is actually 6/8

A,few,beers and it's easier to hear, plus not listening on my phone

You may be right...sorting out the differences by ear can be tough....3/4 time is generally a standard waltz whereas 6/8 time usually is reflected in a Viennese waltz...

Steve

It's been a while since I studied theory, high school classes, and guitar lessons, but 6)8 is basically two sets of three, with two accents. 3/4 is one set. But 6/8 feels different. 3/4 is ONE two, three, ONE, two, three. 6/8 is ONE two three FOUR five six, ONE, two, three, FOUR, five, six.

Mathematically the same but a different feel. 3/4 piano man, is perfect for a bar room sing along, people swaying from left to right.

Beatles ,Lucy in the sky is 3/4
Norwegian wood 6/8
Longer phrases

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I took some basic theory of 6/8 v3/4 a while back as well...the only reason why I think it could be 3/4 is there seems to be a heavy 1 beat which tends to denote 3/4 time signature...trained musicians get it because they read..learn by ear folks not so easy

LOL

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Originally Posted by VNORTH2
I took some basic theory of 6/8 v3/4 a while back as well...the only reason why I think it could be 3/4 is there seems to be a heavy 1 beat which tends to denote 3/4 time signature...trained musicians get it because they read..learn by ear folks not so easy

LOL

Steve

But the one and four are heavily accented in 6/8 too.

U might be right, it would be counted the same but as Iisten yet again it doesn't swing like 6/8

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I think we need professor Schick to wade in on the conversation...lol


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I'm gonna revert back to 3/4 mighta been the beer.

Since udio created it as a country waltz, that's what it is

Now Im goin fir burgers and more beer...

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
I'm gonna revert back to 3/4 mighta been the beer.

Since udio created it as a country waltz, that's what it is

Now Im goin fir burgers and more beer...

Faced with the prospect of someone entering the conversation who does music for a living, reads music and can answer this question definitively...Dom scampers back into the tall grass.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
I'm gonna revert back to 3/4 mighta been the beer.

Since udio created it as a country waltz, that's what it is

Now Im goin fir burgers and more beer...

Faced with the prospect of someone entering the conversation who does music for a living, reads music and can answer this question definitively...Dom scampers back into the tall grass.

Illogical. The post before he mentioned John, I said it could still been 3/4, and that Steve may be right

Your theory down the drain

And Dom reads music too. And Dom tried to teach you harmony and you said you knew that already.

It still could be 6/8. One thing it's not quantized so it's hard to find where the one is.

When I get back I'll listen again, maybe the chorus can give hints.

Ask John, 3/4 and 6/8 are close enough to not be too far off anyway .

It can still be 6/8 but I originally thought it was 3/4 as well

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I have absolutely no idea what you guys are talking about and I sure don't think about stuff like this when I write a song. Either the music sounds good or it doesn't. If it doesn't, changing it from 3/4 to 6/8 or vice versa won't help. Coldplay actually did release a waltz or two. Big hits. But honestly ... who cares?

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Originally Posted by Rob B.
I have absolutely no idea what you guys are talking about and I sure don't think about stuff like this when I write a song. Either the music sounds good or it doesn't. If it doesn't, changing it from 3/4 to 6/8 or vice versa won't help. Coldplay actually did release a waltz or two. Big hits. But honestly ... who cares?

Well true who cares, there are sune geniuses who didn't know what chords they were playing or time sigs

I didn't mean that those bands should be playing 3)4 to write a song about them, in 3/4.

That's writers perog

But the key take away is country music has an identity, and if writing old school country which this is, that subject won't fly

New country is pop rock with a banjo and country accent, so much more forgiving

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
I'm gonna revert back to 3/4 mighta been the beer.

Since udio created it as a country waltz, that's what it is

Now Im goin fir burgers and more beer...

Faced with the prospect of someone entering the conversation who does music for a living, reads music and can answer this question definitively...Dom scampers back into the tall grass.

Illogical. The post before he mentioned John, I said it could still been 3/4, and that Steve may be right

Your theory down the drain

And Dom reads music too. And Dom tried to teach you harmony and you said you knew that already.

It still could be 6/8. One thing it's not quantized so it's hard to find where the one is.

When I get back I'll listen again, maybe the chorus can give hints.

Ask John, 3/4 and 6/8 are close enough to not be too far off anyway .

It can still be 6/8 but I originally thought it was 3/4 as well


No Dom,
Repetitive pattern.
Talking with authority and finality until someone comes along who actually knows.

My suggestion:
Set you proclamations in the conditional.
You wont look like such a goober when they are revealed as BS.

What happened to [poof?

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
I'm gonna revert back to 3/4 mighta been the beer.

Since udio created it as a country waltz, that's what it is

Now Im goin fir burgers and more beer...

Faced with the prospect of someone entering the conversation who does music for a living, reads music and can answer this question definitively...Dom scampers back into the tall grass.

Illogical. The post before he mentioned John, I said it could still been 3/4, and that Steve may be right

Your theory down the drain

And Dom reads music too. And Dom tried to teach you harmony and you said you knew that already.

It still could be 6/8. One thing it's not quantized so it's hard to find where the one is.

When I get back I'll listen again, maybe the chorus can give hints.

Ask John, 3/4 and 6/8 are close enough to not be too far off anyway .

It can still be 6/8 but I originally thought it was 3/4 as well


No Dom,
Repetitive pattern.
Talking with authority and finality until someone comes along who actually knows.

My suggestion:
Set you proclamations in the conditional.
You wont look like such a goober when they are revealed as BS.

What happened to [poof?

Illogical again, i said what umi said before John was brought up

The only BS is you inventing arguments.

Don't assume nobody knows more than you, alot of them do

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Carroll used to have just a lyric. It's pretty hard these days to find someone who is willing and capable of writing music for your lyrics. With the help of Udio he now has a song. I highly doubt that he wants to market this song the way it is right now. All he now needs is to find someone (producer, artist, band, etc.) who likes this song and wants to cover it, which is still not easy. Good luck Carroll!

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Don't really care any more. Just do it for fun and to keep my mind active. I'd love for others to cover these songs and put their own twists on them.


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There's no doubt it's alot of fun.

I got 25 years of notebooks and finished sings done in a few Weeks..

It's a nice reference, but can't really use it as is for anything but a demo

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No Dom.

Steve said what he thought that the song's time was.
You told him unequivocally that it was not what he said
He suggested bring in JS
And then you started backing up into the weeds and agreeing with Steve.


And now you're in denial, as is typical of you.
Just like when you denied ever claiming that you are King Kong Songwriter...and then Rob posted multiple quotes of your silly BS.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
No Dom.

Steve said what he thought that the song's time was.
You told him unequivocally that it was not what he said
He suggested bring in JS
And then you started backing up into the weeds and agreeing with Steve.


And now you're in denial, as is typical of you.
Just like when you denied ever claiming that you are King Kong Songwriter...and then Rob posted multiple quotes of your silly BS.

Before,...
does definitive mean "you may be right"
https://www.jpfolks.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1194809/re-band-on-my-left-hand.html#Post1194809

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Before,...
does definitive mean "you may be right"

No

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Before,...
does definitive mean "you may be right"

No
Exactly, nobody who is calling themselves an authority is telling somebody else they might be right.

Your argument has been dismantled, but I suspect you will continue

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
I'm gonna revert back to 3/4

Dom
You and the "high road" dont exist in the same universe.

I said that the wordplay did not float my boat.
Steve said that it did float his.

Done.
Take a lesson

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
I'm gonna revert back to 3/4

Dom
You and the "high road" dont exist in the same universe.

I said that the wordplay did not float my boat.
Steve said that it did float his.

Done.
Take a lesson

Weakening ....

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Yup just needs to get to chorus quicker , In a little time this AI will improve on sounding real .real I bet , nice job man

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