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#1189285 08/22/23 02:10 PM
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Just getting this off my chest wink

https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=14856207

My gun has good intentions
My gun has happy thoughts
My gun has something to say
My gun has its own law

Bang-bang, equitable bullets
Bang-bang, justice for the oppressed
Bang-bang, targeting the privileged
Bang-bang, there goes another racist

My gun won't feel sorry
My gun has no empathy
My gun don't need to pray
My gun loves the enemy

The world in my sights
My tongue licking the trigger
I'm selling bullets and rights
Like gunpowder and sugar......

My gun belongs in the street
My gun has no borders
My gun won't discriminate
My gun hates law and order

Bang-bang, what's that you were saying
Bang-bang, we're canceling your fathers
Bang-bang, your sons will die for nothing
Bang-bang, we're coming for your daughters

My gun can't be taken
My gun says bar your doors
My gun was never a crime
Cause…
My gun used to be yours

The world in my sights
My tongue licking the trigger
I'm selling bullets and rights
Like gunpowder and sugar......

Democracy, red handed hypocrisy…
The irony of tyranny

My gun can't be taken
My gun says bar your doors
My gun was never a crime
Cause…
My gun used to be yours

The world in my sights
My tongue licking the trigger
I'm selling bullets and rights
Like gunpowder and sugar......

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Tony

In todays' world, this type of thing triggers algorithms.
I suggest removing it.

Marty

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I've been triggering $h!t for 40yrs lol... I ain't worried.

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I love it.......(I guess they'll be kicking my door down now, too )
Although....I think "my gun has its own way."...is best......but, you wrote it, and it's good.
Good sing.....I wish I wrote it!!

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Hmmmm...
There may be a problem with this lyric...

It's not really "MY" gun... lol wink

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"I only knew those guys via an internet site about songwriting. No sir. Never actually met them in person ever. No sir. The site has nothing to do with guns. Just songs. No sir. I did not engage in any conversations encouraging the use of guns with either of them. No sir. I have no idea why they did what they did."

I'm just practicing. wink

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You know, Marty,
The irony is, You would probably be having THAT conversation at gunpoint! smile

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I don't have a problem with it, it,"s art.

Personally, I think you should use one person's thoughts, you seem to switch around.

The guy In the first verse is more apropo to our shooting problems.

One perspective, one guy talking, that be my approach.

But I could see this being half rap half rock, and some rapper coming I'm in parts.

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
You know, Marty,
The irony is, You would probably be having THAT conversation at gunpoint! smile

GunpointS

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
I don't have a problem with it, it,"s art.

Personally, I think you should use one person's thoughts, you seem to switch around.

The guy In the first verse is more apropo to our shooting problems.

One perspective, one guy talking, that be my approach.

But I could see this being half rap half rock, and some rapper coming I'm in parts.

Can you tell me where it gets confusing, Dom?
Or, more importantly, what perspective I wrote the lyric from?

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If your asking genuinely, it reads to me like a school shooter or mall shooter. When it gets here it seems like a political pov. Just my opinion...

My gun belongs in the street
My gun has no borders
My gun won't discriminate
My gun hates law and order

Bang-bang, what's that you were saying
Bang-bang, we're canceling your fathers
Bang-bang, your sons will die for nothing
Bang-bang, we're coming for your daughters

My gun can't be taken
My gun says bar your doors
My gun was never a crime
Cause…
My gun used to be yours

The world in my sights
My tongue licking the trigger
I'm selling bullets and rights
Like gunpowder and sugar......

Democracy, red handed hypocrisy…
The irony of tyranny

My gun can't be taken
My gun says bar your doors
My gun was never a crime
Cause…
My gun used to be yours

The world in my sights
My tongue licking the trigger
I'm selling bullets and rights
Like gunpowder and sugar......

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
If your asking genuinely, it reads to me like a school shooter or mall shooter. When it gets here it seems like a political pov. Just my opinion...

No, I'm not picking on you...

How many times have you heard, "If they take all the guns, then only criminals will have them."?

I disagree.

I believe those who would claim the authority to take the guns... are already criminals.

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
If your asking genuinely, it reads to me like a school shooter or mall shooter. When it gets here it seems like a political pov. Just my opinion...

No, I'm not picking on you...

How many times have you heard, "If they take all the guns, then only criminals will have them?"

I disagree.
I believe those who would take the guns are already criminals...

I'm not disagreeing with that, I'm just saying tor the song, its either aboit a nut with.a gum, or about the politucs.

And u can't pick on me

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The lyric is really strong and the "Bang bang" works really well as a hook. I fear that many people listening will just think it's about going around shooting a gun and not see below the surface. I also fear that some will see below the surface. This is you at your disturbing best, lashing out at your imaginary enemies with deadly aim, shooting at shadows and hitting them right between the eyes. Brilliant, Tony!

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Hey Japov, I interpeted this song two ways..... pro and anti-gun with convincing arguments on both sides. A brilliant write and yes it is triggering but therte is triggering going on daily in every city and every state and hearys being stopped.
write on....right on....righteously.

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Originally Posted by Gavin Sinclair
The lyric is really strong and the "Bang bang" works really well as a hook. I fear that many people listening will just think it's about going around shooting a gun and not see below the surface. I also fear that some will see below the surface. This is you at your disturbing best, lashing out at your imaginary enemies with deadly aim, shooting at shadows and hitting them right between the eyes. Brilliant, Tony!
Kinda' like how good comedy is always rooted in reality? wink

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Originally Posted by MFB III
Hey Japov, I interpeted this song two ways..... pro and anti-gun with convincing arguments on both sides. A brilliant write and yes it is triggering but therte is triggering going on daily in every city and every state and hearys being stopped.
write on....right on....righteously.
Can't have one without the other... smile

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its a hot topic , personally I hate guns , Threw them in the ocean after Army , But half the country will love you, Heck maybe more and the NRA
Violence is kinda breed in to us . Cavemen mentality, Well you trying killing 50 people in a church with sticks and stones , That assult rifle works much better, Sticks stones and guns don't kill people , Love that argument. well give Billy Bob a Nuclear missile , Maybe he can hit that buck. We stand for controlling the herds , No you don't you like the feel of killing something .

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As long as the enemy has them, they will always be a necessity.

Guns are simply tools... same as sticks and stones.

Tools are not the problem; Murderous criminals are the problem. Especially if your "Commander In Chief" is a criminal...

There's no point in arguing the definition of "Well Regulated Militia". Our forefathers founded this nation in rebellion against tyranny... Tyranny in the name of God no less.

Freedom to defend yourself is the MOST BASIC of human rights!

I don't hate guns... I hate criminals.

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I don't agree , But thats ok , Were never getting rid of guns , NRA and paid off Politian's will make sure of that
I lost thinking like Daniel Boone along time ago on the right to bare arms
its always the same bullshit , Prayers to family's, No one including Homer the redneck should have assault rifles
Will it change ? Nope big money on all that , Give em tanks , lets stop fucking around. Give Billy Bob and tank to kill a deer

Aaron Lewis will love you , Am I the Only One

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Lol... California looks real good on you, Ben wink

I like Aaron's voice.

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ha ha ha right and Hurricanes in LA. The illusive deer and M16's I'm all for it, I can kill one with headlights and a truck

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LOL. A song from Tony is like a balloon he farted into with the Mona Lisa painted on it. You know the content is pungent but you can't help but admire it as it drifts by. smile

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Singing my tunes
Like a snickering cartoon
Eclipsing the moon
In a fart balloon...

Naaah' wink

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JAPOV...."Do all things for the sake of the Good News."


Think it over.


Nashville demos etc:

https://www.soundclick.com/bands3/default.cfm?bandID=431939

other demos:

https://soundcloud.com/wabash-cannibal

Amazon Kindle books by Robert George you may enjoy:

1) Americana

2) Teenage Graceland

3) The Will to Be

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Originally Posted by couchgrouch
JAPOV...."Do all things for the sake of the Good News."

Think it over.

Hmmmm... You mean this good news?

21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Or this good news...?

21“Now brother will deliver up brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and cause them to be put to death. 22And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake.

How about this...?

34“Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. 35For I have come to ‘set[j] a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; 36and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’ 37He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.

Or this...?

18“If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. 19If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. 20Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you.

This maybe...?

‘These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God: 15“I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. 16So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither [k]cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. 17Because you say, ‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing’—and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked—

Your cherry picked "feel-good" theology does not impress me, Grouch.

And, by the way... I believe you mis-quoted...

22Slaves, obey those who are your human masters in everything, not with eye-service, as people-pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord. 23Whatever you do, do your work heartily, as for the Lord and not for people, 24knowing that it is from the Lord that you will receive the reward of the inheritance. It is the Lord Christ whom you serve. 25For the one who does wrong will receive the consequences of the wrong which he has done, and that without partiality.

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Whats that got to do with Christians and guns ?
So God Jesus check love , Guns death , spin any way you want , something is going to die

I never got the equation

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Originally Posted by bennash
Whats that got to do with Christians and guns ?
So God Jesus check love , Guns death , spin any way you want , something is going to die

I never got the equation
"spin any way you want , something is going to die..." lol

All in the name of Democracy wink

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ok...... Good debate
I even have empathy for a trout now. I miss hunting and fishing . When I spot a buck on a hill , I still get a bit excited
Here's my solution for home invasions , A scatter gun that shoots out 6 lines that stuns the burglar
If you've never shot someone in REAL life , Your going to freeze and kill the cat. Pointing a gun at someone is not like in the movies
If you want to fight a useless war and get that Kill in you that takes 30 years to get the violence out of you , Will be my guess
I would not recommend it

Here's my take everyone go the army stand in line with 3 doctors like James Taylor did, He's crazy he's not fighting your useless fucking wars
I tell you what fucking is a bit offensive, Not as offensive as WAR AND GUNS

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A Corpsman's job is to tend the dying and the dead on the battlefield. So, the question is always there...

"As long as there are those willing to kill for their politics and proliferation, what else can I do?"

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"Yes sir. I was aware that he was saying those kinds of things, but I never really thought that he'd do anything like that so I didn't report it. Frankly, I didn't think that anyone would follow up on it if I did. And sir...the website had owners and admins. I thought that the primarily responsibility for dealing with this kind of thing on a website that is moderated falls on the owners and moderators. But now that I am thinking about it, some of them have posted some fairly out-there $hit too. Sorry I cant be of further help. I'm just an amateur songwriter who was looking for a place to post a song now and then."





Just adding a little context and nuance to my future FBI interview.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
"Yes sir. I was aware that he was saying those kinds of things, but I never really thought that he'd do anything like that so I didn't report it. Frankly, I didn't think that anyone would follow up on it if I did. And sir...the website had owners and admins. I thought that the primarily responsibility for dealing with this kind of thing on a website that is moderated falls on the owners and moderators. But now that I am thinking about it, some of them have posted some fairly out-there $hit too. Sorry I cant be of further help. I'm just an amateur songwriter who was looking for a place to post a song now and then."

Just adding a little context and nuance to my future FBI interview.
Unfortunately...
If the FBI is conducting an investigation, I'm sure they have already identified the two most antagonistic and disruptive trolls on this site.

You really shouldn't criticize Dom...

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I know Tony. You got me figured out.
All problems with this site rest with me. A wretched and pointlessly contrarian troll.
Unlike Dom though, I do have songs that I post.

In contrast to me, the songs and follow up comments that you have posted in this thread...are golden in every way? They put forth "the incontrovertible truth" that only fools such as me, refuse to see.

Be all that as it may...I believe it prudent to prepare my answers.
And with my oblique approach, I am made more comfortable by making them available to be seen by whatever onlookers that there are.

The content in this thread is disturbing.
This site is an old habit for me. You may have finally established a way to scare me off. I'll debate anything with you, but committing notions to written words in a world, that could lend themselves to interpretation as a prelude to violence or slaughter is a place to avoid. John Wilkes Booth could have written the following. It roughly paraphrases "Sic semper tyrannis!"



""The world in my sights
My tongue licking the trigger
I'm selling bullets and rights
Like gunpowder and sugar......

Democracy, red handed hypocrisy…
The irony of tyranny""

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Originally Posted by MFB III
Hey Japov, I interpeted this song two ways..... pro and anti-gun with convincing arguments on both sides. A brilliant write and yes it is triggering but therte is triggering going on daily in every city and every state and hearys being stopped.
write on....right on....righteously.

Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
John Wilkes Booth could have written the following. It roughly paraphrases "Sic semper tyrannis!"

""The world in my sights
My tongue licking the trigger
I'm selling bullets and rights
Like gunpowder and sugar......

Democracy, red handed hypocrisy…
The irony of tyranny""

Marty,
Tyranny is tyranny... no matter the source.
But, to deny people the right of self defense? That's tyranny with an objective to absolutely subjugate and control.

Unless you can eliminate criminality and the necessity of war, that kind of control is simply not possible. It's the emotional tugging of your fatherly oppressors propagating the idealistic pipe-dreams of naïve adolescence.

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Not much , I guess wars will always be around,
Lets just be logical better gun laws control who gets them , Ok sell assault rifles , seems silly , 30 30 will kill a deer

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
A Corpsman's job is to tend the dying and the dead on the battlefield. So, the question is always there...

"As long as there are those willing to kill for their politics and proliferation, what else can I do?"
Originally Posted by bennash
Not much , I guess wars will always be around

Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

7When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

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Hey Tony,
this is pretty good. I mean, this is REALLY good. But, I'm still guessing ... which part of the song is the chorus. If you could get that part (the chorus) to be a little more sticky, this could be a monster of a song. Well done!

All the best - Robert

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Originally Posted by bennash
Lets just be logical better gun laws control who gets them , Ok sell assault rifles , seems silly , 30 30 will kill a deer

Lol...
M16, 5.56mm, 23.5gr
30-30, 7.62mm, 30gr

A full auto 30-30 would be awesome!
But, I wouldn't sell one to:
1- Anyone without a High School diploma
2- Anyone with a history of mental illness or drug abuse (including Ritalin)
3- Anyone with a history of antisocial/bullying behavior (including social media)
4- Anyone without a verifiable home address
5- Anyone without proper (military style) education and training
6- Anyone unsure of their natural physical identity (human male/female) regardless of race
7- Anyone from California wink

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Originally Posted by Rob B.
Hey Tony,
this is pretty good. I mean, this is REALLY good. But, I'm still guessing ... which part of the song is the chorus. If you could get that part (the chorus) to be a little more sticky, this could be a monster of a song. Well done!

All the best - Robert

Thank You Rob!
Yeah', I thought the guitar "rhythm" changes would be enough, but it just doesn't POP.

Oh well, it's just a plug-n-play "one off" smile

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Originally Posted by MFB III
Hey Japov, I interpeted this song two ways..... pro and anti-gun with convincing arguments on both sides. A brilliant write and yes it is triggering but therte is triggering going on daily in every city and every state and hearys being stopped.
write on....right on....righteously.

Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
John Wilkes Booth could have written the following. It roughly paraphrases "Sic semper tyrannis!"

""The world in my sights
My tongue licking the trigger
I'm selling bullets and rights
Like gunpowder and sugar......

Democracy, red handed hypocrisy…
The irony of tyranny""

Marty,
Tyranny is tyranny... no matter the source.
But, to deny people the right of self defense? That's tyranny with an objective to absolutely subjugate and control.

Unless you can eliminate criminality and the necessity of war, that kind of control is simply not possible. It's the emotional tugging of your fatherly oppressors propagating the idealistic pipe-dreams of naïve adolescence.

Tony
This is a song site. I went out to the gym and a beer and came back to see these accolades that your song has gotten.
#1 It's not that good. Truly not.
#2 Anyone who thinks that this is great might think that the unabomber's treatise was a literary masterpiece.
On that level, this is perplexing.

More importantly...
I obviously don't mind enjoying some misbehavior.
I don't worry nearly as much as a random person...who thinks what of me.

But I do have moral precepts that govern my behavior. And practicalities.
I dance around the edges of that at times here as it is...BUT...If this kind of writing that you have displayed here is going to be allowed here, then I gotta go. I can't be around it.

I've been lazy about looking into other places to post songs and exchange audio tips anyway. It's an opportunity to dig into that. I may put up a song here down the road, I dunno.

Anyways, you and this song caused my withdrawal. If that's a win for you...I'm glad it brings you happiness.

Marty

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Oh my God, Marty!
What was I thinking?
I take it all back!
I SUCK!
Please, don't go!

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Marty, leaving because of Tony seems a bit extreme. I always try to separate the songwriting from his point of view. Not always easy and the toxic fumes emanating from this particular offering make it harder than usual. There may be other reasons to leave the site but Tony's eloquently expressed demented ravings shouldn't be one of them smile

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Oh my God, Marty!
What was I thinking?
I take it all back!
I SUCK!
Please, don't go!

Very cute Tony
I should go for several reasons, not just this.
Just didn't have a big enough motivator till now.
I should thank you for posting your treatise...but I'm not wink
I'm going to sign out now.
Take a last shot or how ever many you please.

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Agnostics are such drama queens... grin

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ha ha ha, Agnostics are such drama queens.
Jesus on crutches


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man just use hand grenades and drones. The poor fellows are tried to get laid and we ruin their day. Nimrod

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ha ha ha


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anyone from Calif ha ha ha , you hicks think you know everything


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Ha! Funny you mention Nimrod.
You know who he was, right?
Originally Posted by bennash
anyone from Calif ha ha ha , you hicks think you know everything
Bibles and Guns... Yeah', Obama nailed it!

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Yes....... God I'll make you a mighty hunter
But that was to survive , Not a sport with a lazers and such hunters use today to hunt the elusive deer.
I use to kill them at night with a 22 and flashlight , I was deadly with a gun... sharp shooter in the army

The don't this now , but they made you crawl under barb wire with a M60 shooting over your head at night with tracers
If you stood up you were dead, Alot of kids froze crying. There was a kid froze , I drug him the rest of the way
When the light came back on 50 or 60 kids were hiding in the woods

Them drill sergeants made them go under the wire

Sergeant Fulmer told Jones get out of bed , He didn't fulmer thru him out of bed broke his arm

He told jones if you tell the captain , I'll break your other arm. He didn't

You were a kid when you went in , a man when you got out of the army

I'm kinda on the fence on waving the flag.
When you walk into a Vet hospital and people dying from agent orange , Not so much waving the flag

The Marines stick to themselves , Little club and your not in it

There was this guy in line at the blood lab , He looked way to much like the stare you get with PSTD

There's pictures with vets with dogs . Dog kinda takes the edge off on violence you live with . Comfort dogs , Mines Roscoe

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