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Remember, there's two songs in there, two bars each, different timbres delineating them.
Remember, both are "one hit wonders"
The two songs were hits between 4-5 years apart.
Remember the big clue that the last word of the first song is the first word of the second song.
NEW CLUE: Both song titles are things girls said to their guys.
In song one, it's a question the wife asks her husband, and those seven notes COMPRISE THE FIVE WORD TITLE, because the title words are the first words sung. The lyric POV is first person, the song is sung by a woman.
Song two's FIVE WORD song title occurs well into the song (in the chorus) and is an admonishment, a warning from the girl to her guy. The lyric POV is third person, the song is sung by a man. The actual (eleven note) opening verse line (which is the clue given here) descibes a festive event.
Ring a bell?
Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 02/26/2312:11 AM.
Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice Fortune depends on the tone of your voice
-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon) from the song "Songs of Love" from the album "Casanova" (1996)
Remember, there's two songs in there, two bars each, different timbres delineating them.
Remember, both are "one hit wonders"
The two songs were hits between 4-5 years apart.
Remember the big clue that the last word of the first song is the first word of the second song.
NEW CLUE: Both song titles are things girls said to their guys.
In song one, it's a question the wife asks her husband, and those seven notes COMPRISE THE FIVE WORD TITLE, because the title words are the first words sung. The lyric POV is first person, the song is sung by a woman.
Song two's FIVE WORD song title occurs well into the song (in the chorus) and is an admonishment, a warning from the girl to her guy. The lyric POV is third person, the song is sung by a man. The actual (eleven note) opening verse line (which is the clue given here) descibes a festive event.
Refer to the above "quote" for all the prior clues...
Two songs, 2 bars each...
New clues:
The first song (which, again, is sung by a woman) was a one hit wonder for this particular BAND that had a member in it that would 4-5 years later go solo and become a (USA Billboard Hot 100) "one hit wonder" themselves, under his/her own name, with a song originally written by Jacques Brel.
The second song was a top ten hit in the UK, too, but by a different band! A band that was a "two hit wonder" in the UK, and a "one hit wonder" themselves, in the USA. Their one USA hit mentions ''Al Capone'' by name. Figure out who THAT band is, and then you'll know the TITLE of their OTHER UK hit, which is the SAME SONG as the second song here, which was the ONLY hit by the band that made it a hit in the USA, who simply beat the UK band to the punch, in terms of the USA release.
LAST CLUE: The last word of the first song title is the SAME WORD as the first word of the second song title. THAT WORD that both songs share in common IS MORE THAN 4 LETTERS.
The BEST answer is to name both songs and both Billboard Hot 100 "one-hit wonder" recording artists.
Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 02/27/2303:26 AM.
Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice Fortune depends on the tone of your voice
-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon) from the song "Songs of Love" from the album "Casanova" (1996)
The Poppy Family was one of few pop bands whose "drummer" played tablas mostly, and upon hearing them for the first time, you might think this was The Carpenters in the late Sixties, trying to be psychedelic. No tablas on their hit though.
Susan Jacks, the lead singer, died last year at 73, awaiting a kidney transplant.
Her ex-husband Terry Jacks was in The Poppy Family as well, and he is the "clue artist" in question who made a hit with Jacques Brel material "Le Moribund" which became "Seasons In the Sun" which was a Rod McKuen translation. One of the most hated Number One Hits of all time.
Bo Donaldson & the Heywoods was the correct answer for the band that beat UK band Paper Lace to the punch in the USA (Paper Lace's version peaked at #97 in the USA), and scored their only top ten hit with the song. Another one of the most hated number one hits of all time. The Paper Lace song that mentions "Al Capone" was "The Night Chicago Died" and was Paper Lace's only USA hit.
Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 02/27/2304:18 PM.
Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice Fortune depends on the tone of your voice
-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon) from the song "Songs of Love" from the album "Casanova" (1996)
I imagine there may be more than one song that holds the melodic (solfeggio) note "do" played on the first beat and over a major one chord, then melodically goes to "ti" on the 4th beat of the same bar...it seems generic enough that there might be several songs...only problem for me is...if that's true...then why can I think of only one?
I won't wait, Eddie, cuz I think John is playing a different song that happens to start exactly the same as the one I am thinking of, or that you are thinking of, as well.
The only one that comes to mind for me is "Tutti Frutti."
Just kidding..."I'll Be Home For Christmas" is my actual "guess" and it certainly qualifies in terms of notes over chords--it starts out exactly like what you played--and there are literally hundreds of cover versions and I'm sure some are even in the key of Eb, like yours.
So John, even if you are playing a different song, I'd like you to consider giving me partial credit!
That was certainly an ear worm. So many songs are ALMOST what you played. "Smile" for one. "Love Is A Many Splendored Thing" etc...
Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 03/03/2307:18 PM.
Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice Fortune depends on the tone of your voice
-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon) from the song "Songs of Love" from the album "Casanova" (1996)
Hmm........Michael, you may be right, that works and is a different song than I was thinking. My song was a hit in 1956 and a movie soundtrack..........I'll wait a bit before showing my cards, however you may have it! (I wonder if John knows.......he could have just been doodling on the piano).......?
I imagine there may be more than one song that holds the melodic (solfeggio) note "do" played on the first beat and over a major one chord, then melodically goes to "ti" on the 4th beat of the same bar...it seems generic enough that there might be several songs...only problem for me is...if that's true...then why can I think of only one?
I won't wait, Eddie, cuz I think John is playing a different song that happens to start exactly the same as the one I am thinking of, or that you are thinking of, as well.
The only one that comes to mind for me is "Tutti Frutti."
Just kidding..."I'll Be Home For Christmas" is my actual "guess" and it certainly qualifies in terms of notes over chords--it starts out exactly like what you played--and there are literally hundreds of cover versions and I'm sure some are even in the key of Eb, like yours.
So John, even if you are playing a different song, I'd like you to consider giving me partial credit!
That was certainly an ear worm. So many songs are ALMOST what you played. "Smile" for one. "Love Is A Many Splendored Thing" etc...
I'll give you 100% of the credit Michael. I'll Be Home for Christmas" was correect. Yes, when only using a couple notes, it can often reflect other tunes. Here's the full track I recorded earlier today: I'll Be Home for Christmas
Last edited by John Lawrence Schick; 03/03/2308:36 PM.
The popular versions of "I'll Be Home For Christmas" are Bb and G, so I figured if I WAS right, you had to be playing it from memory, NOT sheet music. I figured I'd throw it out there just in case, and what-do-ya-know...
Mike
Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 03/03/2310:05 PM.
Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice Fortune depends on the tone of your voice
-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon) from the song "Songs of Love" from the album "Casanova" (1996)
I'd like to "host a round" more like classic "Name That Tune" where I give a written clue, and then folks can "bid" on how few notes they need to "name that tune." The bidding could last a specified period of time, like 2, 3 or 4 days...The "lowest" bid would be the number of (melodic) notes given, in the musical clue that would follow. Of course, if anyone says "I can name that tune in zero notes" they should also IMMEDIATELY give an answer, a song title, and in the case two get the correct answer, the earliest post wins.
This time I won't take liberties with moving forward on this, though, as I recently "hosted" and someone else might have a song they want to play with.
Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 03/04/2307:52 AM.
Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice Fortune depends on the tone of your voice
-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon) from the song "Songs of Love" from the album "Casanova" (1996)
Like w/classic "Name That Tune" you will get a clue. If you think you've got the answer, you can bypass the bidding process and say some version of "I can name that tune in zero notes" and then you simply give one song title as your answer. If you are correct, YOU WIN! If you are incorrect, you cannot try again 'til a next round, which may or may not happen.
Otherwise, name a number of notes you believe you need to help you name that tune, and I will upload a solo, melodic piano of the songs melody the following afternoon (3 PM Pacific Time), based on the LOWEST BID (2 being lower than 3, 3 being lower than 4, etc.) The LOWEST BIDDER is then given 'til 2:59 PM Pacific Time, the next day, to respond. If he/she doesn't respond, at 3 PM Pacific Time I will prompt the NEXT LOWEST bidder to give an answer, adding the corresponding number of notes to the musical clue.
The bidding can start with as many as 9 notes and as few as zero notes, zero notes getting to make an immediate guess. Realize certain strategies might be bad, such as saying you can name the tune in one note, since the next player, in a given day, can "name that tune in zero notes" and simply "name the tune" at that point, beating you to the punch. After the first bid, a different person can make a bid with any smaller number, any fewer number of notes they think they need to get the answer correct.
Responding w/answer, bidding, etc. will proceed 'til Monday afternoon, specifically 3PM Pacific Time, at which point I post a musical clue, and that lowest bidder who gets to answer should be aware that they have 'til Tuesday 2:59 PM Pacific Time to respond with their answer, before the next lowest bidder will then have a chance to hear the melodic clue (with extra notes) and try to solve the puzzle .
I'll be flexible if folks think I am not allowing for enough time, or if there's a shortage of responses, I might post at the end of a day that I'm adding a day on, to allow for more interest in this round of play. IF 2 PEOPLE PLAY, game is ON!
Remember, responses/answers/bids in by 2:59 Pacific Time, Musical cues/clues will be posted at 3 PM Pacific.
Feel free to clarify the rules if I have been vague about anything.
For me, this is an exercise in "can a game be successfully played in a chatroom that was made to be played with the immediate feedback of people-together-in-a-room?" By the end of this round-of-play, I will have my answer.
Mike
Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 03/05/2309:29 PM.
Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice Fortune depends on the tone of your voice
-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon) from the song "Songs of Love" from the album "Casanova" (1996)
THE CLUE: This Grammy winning song got its title from a best selling, non-fiction book (of the same title) the recording artist had read. The song, in fact won MORE THAN ONE Grammy!
See above post for rules. Bid notes (9 or less) or attempt to solve puzzle. A "wrong guess" will eliminate the guesser until a possible 'next round' which would start at 3 PM Pacific Time the next day (in most cases).
2:59 PM PST Monday is the last chance to Bid or solve. At 3 PM PST Monday I will post a musical cue/clue based on the lowest bidder's number of notes. Two players/bidders = GAME ON. NO LIMIT to number of players. Game days roll over to 3 PM PST next day 'til we have two players/bidders.
If a second player makes a lower bid, you can feel free to undercut that bid by bidding even fewer notes than him.
If no second player bids or guesses by tomorrow at 3PM PST, I'll just go ahead and upload the musical cue/clue (with 9 notes), and YOU get to be the first guesser. If you end up the only bidder, that would be the fairest way to proceed, I think.
Also note: I modified the clue to be more specific about its Grammy winning. The song won more than one Grammy.
Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 03/05/2308:44 PM.
Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice Fortune depends on the tone of your voice
-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon) from the song "Songs of Love" from the album "Casanova" (1996)
UPDATE: Craig has opened the bidding w/9 notes. **********************************************************************************
THE CLUE: This Grammy winning song got its title from a best selling, non-fiction book (of the same title) the recording artist had read. The song, in fact won MORE THAN ONE Grammy!
Like w/classic "Name That Tune" you will get a clue (see directly above). If you think you've got the answer, you can bypass the bidding process and say some version of "I can name that tune in zero notes" and then you can immediately give one song title as your answer. If you are correct, YOU WIN! If you are incorrect, you are DISQUALIFIED from further play!!!
Otherwise, name a number of notes you believe you need to help you name that tune (Craig has opened the bidding w/9 notes), and I will upload a solo, melodic piano of the songs melody the following afternoon (3 PM Pacific Time), based on the LOWEST BID (2 being lower than 3, 3 being lower than 4, etc.) The LOWEST BIDDER is then given 'til Tuesday 3 PM PST to respond. If he/she doesn't respond, a little after 3 PM PST I will prompt the NEXT HIGHER bidder to give an answer, adding the corresponding number of notes to the musical cue/clue.
The bidding can start with as many as 9 notes and as few as zero notes, zero notes getting to make an immediate guess, albeit w/consequence of being eliminated from play, if wrong. Realize certain strategies might be bad, such as saying you can name the tune in one note, since the next player can "name that tune in zero notes" and simply blurt out an answer with no need to wait for the musical cue/clue, beating you to the punch. After the first bid, a different person can make a bid with any smaller number, any fewer number of notes they think they need to get the answer correct.
Responding w/answer, bidding, etc. will proceed 'til Monday afternoon, specifically 3 PM PST, at which point I will post a musical clue, and that lowest bidder who gets to answer should be aware that they have 'til Tuesday 3 PM PST to respond with their answer, before the next lowest bidder will then have a chance to hear the melodic clue (with extra notes) and try to solve the puzzle .
Game is ON as we have two players: Craig opened the bidding with 9 notes, John Schick thinks he can name that tune in 7.
The bidder with the LOWEST number of notes bid will have FIRST CHANCE to solve the musical cue/clue. Everyone else should PM their answers in the case that the winning bidder answers incorrectly or is stymied. The winning bidder has until 3PM PST Tuesday to answer. At that time, I will look to see if the NEXT HIGHEST bidder had the correct answer, and if not, the bidder with the next highest bid, etc...
If, at that point STILL nobody has gotten it, I will add a written clue every two hours, until someone names the tune.
Remember, responses/answers/bids in by Monday @ 3 PM PST, A musical cue/clue will be posted minutes later.
Feel free to have me clarify anything you are not understanding.
For me, this is an exercise in "can a game be successfully played in a chatroom that was made to be played with the immediate feedback of people-together-in-a-room?" I am finding I'm having to modify the classic "Name That Tune" rules as I go to make it work.
Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 03/06/2303:11 PM.
Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice Fortune depends on the tone of your voice
-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon) from the song "Songs of Love" from the album "Casanova" (1996)
Like in the TV show, if you think you could "name that tune" with less notes than the first bid (Craig bid nine notes), you could bid 8, IOW "I can name that tune in 8 notes"
As it stands, Craig is the only bidder and will have exclusive rights to "name that tune" ahead of everyone else, if no one else either makes a guess as to the song title (but risks being eliminated if wrong) or bids today by 3PM PST.
Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 03/06/2312:43 PM.
Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice Fortune depends on the tone of your voice
-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon) from the song "Songs of Love" from the album "Casanova" (1996)
Game is ON as we have two players: Craig opened the bidding with 9 notes, John Schick thinks he can name that tune in 7.
Anyone can STILL feel free to bid 6 or less notes, including Craig, and anyone can still flat-out take a guess, but if wrong is eliminated.
The bidder with the LOWEST number of notes bid will have FIRST CHANCE to solve the musical cue/clue. Everyone else should PM their answers in the case that the winning bidder answers incorrectly or is stymied. The winning bidder has until 3PM PST Tuesday to respond to the musical cue/clue. At that time, if the winning bidder has an incorrect response or no response, I will look to see if the NEXT HIGHEST bidder had the correct (PM'd) answer, and if not, the bidder with the next highest bid, etc...
Bidding/guessing ends @ 3PM PST today, Monday...
Musical cue/clue will be posted shortly thereafter...
The CLUE, again is:
This Grammy winning song got its title from a best selling, non-fiction book (of the same title) the recording artist had read. The song, in fact won MORE THAN ONE Grammy!
Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 03/06/2304:08 PM.
Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice Fortune depends on the tone of your voice
-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon) from the song "Songs of Love" from the album "Casanova" (1996)
VERY IMPORTANT: ONLY JOHN SCHICK CAN POST HIS ANSWER HERE. EVERYONE ELSE must PM ME if you think you know the answer and there is a small road to winning for you! ********************************************************************* Game is on...John plays first...he gets to be first to respond to the musical cue/clue.
John, again, you and only you get to make a PUBLIC guess and you have until 3PM PST tomorrow, Tuesday.
The melody you hear are the first seven notes the recording artist sings.
Craig, after hearing the 7 notes, you can get full credit if John does not know and you PM me the correct answer before Tuesday at 3 PM PST, but would be eliminated if that answer was wrong. You also have the option to wait until Tuesday at 3 PM PST to get the additional 2 notes.
For everyone else, the only road to win is PM-ing me the correct title and having both John and Craig come up empty. For everyone else, if there's more than one correct, the FIRST ONE PM'd wins. DO NOT WAIT TO PM me if you think you have the correct answer! First correct response from the "peanut gallery" wins if neither John nor Craig can come up with the correct answer.
Incorrect answers result in immediate elimination from further play.
Again, EVERYONE ELSE who thinks they know, YOU MUST PM me your answer, PLEASE DON'T POST IT HERE! *********************************************************************
Best of luck to everyone, and special thanks to John and Craig for playing!
This Grammy winning song got its title from a best selling, non-fiction book (of the same title) the recording artist had read. The song, in fact won MORE THAN ONE Grammy!
Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 03/06/2307:35 PM.
Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice Fortune depends on the tone of your voice
-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon) from the song "Songs of Love" from the album "Casanova" (1996)
Good guess, except "Sweet Pea" starts on John's second note.
I'm gonna guess "Heigh Ho" --though I'm hoping John's working from memory, cuz although the first, third and forth notes are totally "Heigh Ho" John's third note is not a passing tone between notes two and four, as it is in "Heigh Ho."
Probably we're both wrong, haha...
Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 03/08/2306:42 PM.
Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice Fortune depends on the tone of your voice
-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon) from the song "Songs of Love" from the album "Casanova" (1996)
"Sweet Pea" is correct. The first note could have been scratched. 2nd, 3rd, and 4th note = Oh, Sweet Pea". I was thinking "Oh, oh Sweet Pea". Congrats to Craig on this Bubblegum hit!
Best, John
Last edited by John Lawrence Schick; 03/08/2308:15 PM.
"Sweet Pea" never even occured to me, so you deserve major props, sir.
And I am familiar with the song, and most of Roe's stuff. I think "Dizzy" is remarkable in how Roe gives the listener a dizzying sensation through all his modulations. Pretty sophisticated for bubblegum.
Mike
Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice Fortune depends on the tone of your voice
-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon) from the song "Songs of Love" from the album "Casanova" (1996)
Correct John! From wiki, about this Tommy Roe song:
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The ABC recording of the song is done in the style of the Lubbock sound, made popular by Buddy Holly and the Crickets in the late 1950s; the strumming pattern, tempo, and chords (both songs are in the key of A) bear particularly strong resemblance to the Crickets' “Peggy Sue"; Roe's vocals are similar to Holly's. The song became the title track of Tommy Roe's debut studio album, Sheila in 1962.
Congrats, John. Now I know the secret of some of your darker more brooding compositions: you have Tommy Roe front and center in your playlist.
I listened to the clue last night and thought "this sounds like a cousin of 'Who Put the Bomp' " so I was sure this was gonna be doo-wop, so was looking at lists of doo-wop songs. But had my memory not erased "Sheila" from its banks, none of the above would have happened, for sure. Nice one, Craig. Threw Tommy Roe right at me and I took a strike.
Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 03/09/2303:22 PM.
Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice Fortune depends on the tone of your voice
-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon) from the song "Songs of Love" from the album "Casanova" (1996)
“Sheila” played on the radio a couple of days ago and I hadn’t heard it in a while either. Got it ready and John posted “Sweet Pea.” Two good songs by Tommy Roe!
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