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If you're not making a comfortable living or any kliving writing songs, which few are, then there isnt much seperation between plain folk and the rest.

I don't see any seperation, we're all the same in the eyes of God. It's we who create any false separation it is all opinion.

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Its not an insult to say u dont have gold records hanging on the wall, few do.

I didn't take it as an insult, I took it as a question. It seemed as though you were making the old false assumption that one must have success in a field to teach it, coach it or mentor it. If that were true, Tiger Woods wouldn't go to swing coaches. Here's a good example. The Country Music Hall of Fame hired me to teach the Words and Music Program. The program taught high school students how to write songs. After a few years, the program got more successful so they brought in another songwriter to teach it as well. They had that songwriter observe one of my classes and ask me for pointers. That songwriter was Vince Gill.


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Indie success and small cuts are fine, and hard enough to get.

Yes, and I honestly believe if I stuck with it I would have had major cuts. I made a decision that it would take years and it brought in no money, so I chose family over some self image as a songwriter or artist and went after a career as a bass player where I have had some major success.

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Making a real living in the songwriting business is darn near impossible.

It sure is, I know a lot of people who do and as a mentor I try to give my perspective as to how they do it.

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Doing gigs, making some cds. going the diy rout, maybe u can make a living, but thats not easy either.

I agree. But I know a lot of people who do well in that area too, and it is my duty as a mentor to give my perspective on this as well.



You've got to know your limitations. I don't know what your limitations are. I found out what mine were when I was twelve. I found out that there weren't too many limitations, if I did it my way. -Johnny Cash

It's only music.
-niteshift

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