On the flip side it can be said that the value of said dowmloads has been raised falsely by the record companies who charge extortionate rip off prices for their products. So there is also a case for saying that they are actually thieves as well. Over the years they have made zillions selling sub standard stuff to us at way above what it is worth. Now I am not defending anything illegal......That said sometimes the law protects businesses and allows them to rip of the consumer. It is time the workings of the whole industry were looked at and the consumer was charged a fair price and the artist paid a fair price...maybe then people would gladly pay the true value of these downloads rather than pirating them. Yes we are only musicians who cannot expect to get paid......but some do get paid and the gap between them and us is too wide....also the gap between them and the promoters and record companies is a huge ravine.