Originally Posted by billrocker
Which is the better example of gullible- to generally assume that if something is wildly and rapidly successful it must be a result of hype and marketing, or to generally assume that if something is wildly and rapidly successful it must be good?

Let me guess...you have fallen prey to neither...but the rest of us have. Right?

And you did imply it was someting other than talent that was moving her forward...you said:

IMO people who make it big should be there because they are so much more talented than anybody else and the music they produce is on a plateau others cannot reach....not becuase they are hyped. Yes gaga is famous.....yes she is a star.....etc etc etc. Is her talent way above everything else that is out there? I DO NOT THINK SO.





Bill I do not follow your argument.....you say that you do not like gaga and do not get it. Then you defend her saying that if millions buy into the hype I must be wrong in saying she does not deserve it. You are a respected musician..use your ears and eyes....is she SO much better than the acts you see on a day to day basis?
The charts for many years has been full of imposters who have little or no musical talent. They have been sold on hype and creating a demand. The tweenies and tone deaf public buy into it.
I can spot talent from fake..I know when it is all hype and little substance.....I can see lip sync and know that these people cannot put in a decent enough live performance. I just wish others could. I judge each act and song on merit and so far few if any of the manufactured acts really deserve the fame they so easily get. As I said before anything sells if it is merchandised and packaged the right way.
I bet given the contacts, financial backing stage management and hype I could pick just about any kid off the street and make him/her a star. Does not mean they have talent just means that people are stupid enough to fall for it.

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