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Brian,

Wow, you are SO the man with the rational mind.

First, let me say that when I see topics like this thread it makes me want to wait til the very end, then say, "And now that we've sorted THAT out let's do another one: Ok, what's bigger, better and more amazing, blue or nine? I say blue. Hell, just look around ya! The SKY is blue! The OCEAN is blue! It's obviously GOD's favorite color, RIGHT? And it was better than Cats. Therfore, I say that BLUE is BETTER than nine. Comments?"

I would do this but I'd start another debate. 8>0

Back to the topic at hand, I so respect you for saying what you did about George Martin. I've never seen anyone have the balls to say George Martin was the deal maker in the Beatles. That's something I don't hear every day. I've been thinking much about this lately...what if he hadn't been there....and I think the answer is they would have broken up LONG before they did. He gave them something worth staying together for. He was the invasion from outer space that united the world toward a common purpose. I had to laugh when you said if it wasn't for George Martin they would have just been "another Rolling Stones"...like what a yawn THAT woulda been to have to settle for just being the longest living and coolest band in the history of the universe. (hee hee). I totally understand what you were saying and I agree...it just sounded funny.

Back to martin: He was the master of what to NOT do to a song. (On "Come Together" I keep wanting to double the guitar track under "Come together, right now..." and harmonize the 3rd verse".) It's almost like he took pride in the fact that there was so much NOT in there, and it STILL worked!

And thank you for defending Madonna. I was going to say something but I chickened out (for what may or may not be obvious reasons). I believe she is a consumate talent. I don't always like what she does with it, but that girl has a ton of talent. Her CD Erotica is one of my favorite records. Erotica is a great example of someone going in the studio and pouring absolutely everything into making the best CD they can possibly make. How frustrating for her that a CD like that just comes and goes and gets judged not on it's own merit, but by her personal life, her personal choices, her misteps, her wacky moments, in short all that she's done up to that moment...of course relying most heavily on her former mistakes than former accomplishments in forming the current opinion. One night, after receiving her mteenth Grammy, she said (and I paraphrase), "Ya know, I get a lot of crap for all the crazy stuff I do but it's always been about the music." I'll never forget that.

That must be the most maddening thing about being successful as a recording artist. Like a typical REM review; "Compared to Rekoning, this album wasn't nearly as [fill in blank]. In related news, Michael Stipe offended [...] with his comment last week which may have alienated listeners from buying the new record when he said [...] about [...] which not only angered the Rev. Jesse Jackson, but infurated [...] and community leaders as well."

Hey, it's a NEW album. Can't we just listen to it and decide if we like the music or not?

Mariah? She sings so great. I don't love it all. Not sure how she compares to the Beatles and Elvis though (other than by the fact that she's also a musician. Hey, let's get Johnny Carson in this conversation! He was a drummer!) I'm just messin around...conversations like these are probably a good thing in the thought and comment they initiate (sure got me goin.). But they wear me sometimes 'cuz ultimately there's just no way to compare. (Too bad they don't shut me up, eh?)

Thanks for your comments. Much appreciated.

br
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