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Bobby,

I didn't mention the company you used to work for. You did. Remember? "No need to hide my from anyone my background" ? Do you read your own posts?

You previously questioned our integrity about allowing you to be a member here when you were working for a company with a really bad reputation. And you were 100% wrong and admitted it. Good for you. But you still questioned us without doing your homework.

Also, you misstated the facts. You said the question "Does anyone have a reliable CD duplicator that doesn't charge an arm and a leg they can recommend?" instantly (your word) eliminated Oasis and Disc Makers. This is not true. Why are you giving out bad information? How is $1000 for 1000 CD's charging an arm and a leg? Both of those companies have that program for people with very small budgets. You're misleading people. Or were you suggesting they weren't reliable? Either way.. you're wrong.

As for letting go of something.. keep in mind you previously questioned our integrity and were proven wrong. Not the other way around. Then you do it again with this statement.

"Today, I don't have to rely on sponsorships from manufactures to carry out my projects so I don't have to place loyalty with them unless they give me a real reason to do so."

The only logical response to this could be "as opposed to who?" posting here? The inference was pretty obvious. Since we had suggested using two companies which you already are misleading people about, who else in this post could you be talking about? Don't insult our intelligence by playing dumb with your own statement. It clearly aims to differentiate you from someone who places loyalty to a company because of sponsorship. Cut me a break. At least have the balls to stand behind your own comments.

Then you challenge us again:

"Having known Morris personally for many years and knowing at least 100 different artists who have dealt with him I was comfortable recommending him and for the record he does not run a referral program and I have zilch to gain by pointing people to him or Brad at Planet Media or Even Darius at http://www.enginedisc.com Can you say the same about yourself, Oasis and Disk Makers?"

Gee.. I suppose this comment wasn't directed at me either eh? (by the way.. it's Disc Makers... )

Yes, I can say the same thing. I don't ask for, accept or have anything to do with referrals or commissions of any type from anyone from any company for any reason. Period. Obviously you are STILL questioning my integrity here, because if I did take referrals, that would be pitching something simply so I could make money from it and would violate the trust I have built up with our members. You see, my endorsement is not bought and paid for. How many times do you have to be told the truth until you can understand it and accept it?

Bobby, when you've spent 5 years working to support a community that you built from scratch that is now over 21,000 musicians and artists and industry professionals without ever cashing in on it, without ever abusing it or taking advantage of the members or even charging them a dime for anything, then perhaps you'll have the credibility to question my honesty and integrity. Until then, you sound like a disgruntled outsider desperate to make yourself look better by tearing down others. How's that working for you?

We welcomed you into our group even though you were working for some questionable people doing questionable things. We've done nothing against you, even though you've attacked and questioned my integrity in the past. How many times do you have be proven wrong before you'll stop?

Once more for the record: There's no hidden agenda. No secret business dealings. No one has been bought and paid for on our staff at any level. Everyone, including myself, does work here because we want to help our community. If a company we believe in wants to help cover the costs of a program, then we are greatful for their support and certainly want to be sure our members know who it was who helped pay the expenses so they didn't have to. Even in those cases, we simply give acknowledgement or supply information. We don't make sales pitches. In fact, our community partners are so good, we really don't need to. They sell themselves through their great track records and work. Enlightened companies know that the existance of support organizations like Just Plain Folks (and I am not sure if I know of anyone else quite like us) are good for their business. A healthy industry means a larger pie for everyone to share in. And our main goal is to make our growing community as healthy as it can be. All of our community partners benefit from our success and we benefit from theirs. Yes, it really can work that way.

Disc Makers and Oasis CD Duplication both do great work. They are honest companies with a huge resume of happy customers, numbering in the thousands just among our membership alone. They will do the job they promise and make right any problems that come up in the normal course of business. Neither will likely be the cheapest possible option, but I still say that it's worth more money for quality and reliability and the many extras that both companies offer and both companies offer some rock bottom no frills packages for folks who simply can't pay a dime more.

If someone is coming to OUR site (you remember.. Just Plain Folks... not Bobby Bensley's site) we are only going to endorse companies we have first hand knowledge of and believe in. Of all the duplication companies we've had various dealings with, these are the two best by a large margin. Our members who have used them state it by a large margin. Our other community partners all endorse them as well and we put a lot of credibility in what type of company or friends and those we respect the most in the industry keep. And our own experience has been positive with both companies.

As for Morris and Hapiscratch, in all the times we've corresponded, we've always talked about his label artists (which I like many of) and he's never mentioned duplication services to me. So, even though he seems to be a great guy, I can't endorse a service I have no knowledge of. That's how endorsements are supposed to work. And that's how we give them out.

Brian