Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
Originally Posted by bennash
Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
I have updated over 1300, nearly 1400 songs so far plus have written another 100+ new songs using old music only tracks and adding new lyrics. It has been a blast. Never listen to trolls whining about A.I. These same people whined about drum machines, synthesizers, samplers, vocal effects, multitracks, DAWs and Plug Ins which doe all the same auto generating music stuff that A.I. CAN do, but few legit people use it for that. I do not have the time nor budget to record 1400 songs, one at a time, with humans, I will not live 50 years to do so. So in my case, AI is a miracle solution. The loudmouths are useful idiots begging to keep the same masters yoke on their necks as always. Gatekeepers at every level until you either qualify for THEIR club by birth, or have the power and money to join them. Otherwise you will be force3d to submit to unfiar deals, absurdly low royalties, your work will STILL be used to train A.I. and they will never fully resolve whether AI is violating Fair Use or not. Why? Because if found they violated it, ALL AI of all types would be shut down overnight due to non stop lawsuits. The government will not allow that to happen. So we will have further "settlements" where gatekeepers who deserve NOTHING will be granted a portion of all future money to further victimize creators who use or do not use AI. It is coming. Some of it is already in play. Major labels can use AI without penalty and already do. The little guys and gals not in the club by birth or by qualification, will be under their boot for eternity, just as it is designed. You must make $s for them before you can get pennies fo yourself.


Thats quite a rant are you running for president ? Well ya 1500 songs , no idea what you will do with them , you're not the artist. Here's a clue record 3 of them with humans and you sing it as the artist . I would not worry about when you're dead . Well your going worry on being dead , complete waste of time really , Its the 4k box for all of us one day . On a hilltop over looking a lake . That you won't see cuz your dead .

Actually I performed live in thousands of shows in 48 States and over 30 countries. I have made a full time living in the music world for 3 decades. Am I performing live now? Nope. 3 strokes wrecked my voice. But I still write. Of those now 1450 songs I have produced via my DAW and the polished with Suno, I played about 65% of them live at some point. The rest were instrumentals that I used to collaborate with lyricists. I also write lyrics, but enjoy writing with others. I have 54 new songs written with one JPFer and another 20ish with nearly that many other writers. How you find this less valid than whatever you or someone else is doing is hard to understand. I have heard you singing, I could still approximate that level of live performance, but it isn't good enough to do live, at least not for me. So I do the demo, then I use modern tools, just like every major label artist, to make it sound as good as I can. I do have a project that will utlize most of the songs, at least 500 of them are already included. But like any creative project, I won't know if it will succeed or not, until it is finished. But so far so good. At worst, Suno is proof of concept. My melodies, my counter melodies, my lyrics, my production design and in the genre influences I prefer for each use case. If I had appropriate money, I would (and will) hire vocalists, but beyond that it is produced on a DAW, track by track (Suno is no longer about auto generating, it works nearly the same as Ableton, but i actually have more options on my Ableton plug ins, outside of vocals). If your hang us is the vocals, well I would rather hear the Suno vocals which now sound as good as label singers, than my vocals or yours. So again, your complain is what? That I am not giving gatekeepers money? Sorry, but you white knighting for establishment studios using high end processing to produce music vs Suno doing the sme is silly. They are already paying the Studios and will pay all of them eventually. Of course, no one cares abou the reality that all my music was scraped off the net along with everyone else. So where is our continuing income streams as using one of my songs to train is the same as using one of anyone elses. There is one indie class action lawsuit going and that is a big bait and switch. It is created to cover the 99.99% of music that was scaped for what will be a tiny one time payment while the labels will get a permanent ongoing cut of everything forever. But folks like yourself are the best friends of the labels because you fight little guys and gals using the tools built on their content without compensation to them, so in my view we may as well get the benefit of the tech because the labels already have songs all over the charts using AI AND they will get a cut of all the AI money forever on top of it. At least indie artists can use the tool to make competitive music. Frankly at this point there is WAY better music coming from Suno users than anything on the Billboard charts. Have you heard the dreck?

Nope, not running for office. I am just telling the truth of the same stuff I warned everyone about with Spotify. The same playbook is in effect with AI. Plus Spotify and the labels are filling up the Spotify charts with fully AI created (i.e. ZERO humans involved) music all over their electronic charts, sleep music charts (which is one of the biggest money makers) and many others. That way they get the money from the "masters" while Spotify doesn't have to pay songwriter royalties to anyone. Keep pushing back your peers (those who are mitigating disastrous studio costs they can never recoup) because old men tilting at windmills is still a thing I guess.



Hey Brian glad you're still kicking . Oh same deal sing a song in the studio every 2 weeks .
Do some promotion , its more fun than pushing buttons . I get your point , you seem smarter than orange Jesus Trump .

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