Originally Posted by couchgrouch
Jews don’t believe in the Trinity now and they didn't believe it from the time of Abraham to the founding of the Church. There should be dozens of NT texts explaining the Trinity to Jewish converts (like there are with salvation apart from the Law and the resurrection), but there are none.

There is also no mention of it in early Church documents. It's not specifically taught until the 4th century. If you want to know its definition, you can find it in the Athanasian and Nicene Creeds of the 4th century.

All this is in my books.

Come on Grouch... That's a "Chicken or the egg" argument...
The apostles were only gifted with the Spirit once Christ revealed Himself as God at that time. There's PLENTY in the Gospels about THAT! And, yes, most people get the point by simply reading it lol...

2000yrs ago... Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John had nothing specifically to prove to YOU Grouch wink