LOL! Now we're having some fun! Just so you know... I'm a big believer in agreeing to disagree FD. That's FREEDOM smile

Nope not Canadian,
===Well, I'm mostly Sicilian and Cherokee... but ALL American. How about you?===

you answered nothing. Did I say Franklin was Republican?
===Michael's premise, if I'm reading him correctly, is that the Republican party existed long before Lincoln. That aside, you probably don't realize that the premise of your question is actually making my point for me. Go back and read lol===

I said it cause if he was able to know Slavery was wrong, so were the other people. Ignorant people helped write the constitution
===Yeah' yeah', a bunch of ignorant goat herding slaves built the pyramids and wrote the Bible as well. What part of "slavery was commonplace"... and had been for thousands of years on this planet... at the time of America's birth... do you not understand?===

Washington was a great leader and President who also owned slaves.
===He also had wooden teeth... What's your point?===

We were born under Christianity, but somehow I doubt Christ would approve of Slavery
===After thousands of years of slavery on this planet, it only took America 75yrs to end it!===

Hypocrites abound even back then.
===Judge not, least ye be judged by the same measure===

Your truths are yours only. Nowhere did I say the constitution was ALL rhetoric
===""The ideal is fine, its more rhetoric than legal. But it seems whenever people go down this constitutional road, its all about legal""===

Guns are not an ideal. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are. Which can be taken away by a gun
===Your "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness", along with your guns, can more easily be taken away by law===

Im not anti gun, my dad owned several
===My Dad and I are both combat vets, we own an arsenal lol===

Whole point was once the argument shifts, then people dont worry about the constitution, it only applies if they like whats being proposed
===Well, people who would disagree with guaranteed justice, freedom, "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" are too stupid to be Americans anyway===

Same thing with Religion. "sell everything you own and come and follow me".... HE SAID THAT did you do it?
===Lol... read that passage again. I'm just a poor old soldier/carpenter, I've never owned enough to sell. I do consider myself quite charitable however smile ===