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Originally Posted by jay23
Originally Posted by Charlie2015

No, the real problem is that there aren't enough songs needed, for all the people who write songs. Kinda like selling snow to Eskimos.

But another big component is that a lot of the people trying to do this aren't really good enough. And as with many other people trying to make it as writers and entertainers in general the impulse is to blame the "industry" rather than admit that to yourself.

This guy has no chance of success in Nashville with the material he has on his reverbnation page (I'm sorry to be blunt about it if he's reading this.)

If there is really a "well known song-plugger" who is taking his money to promote these demos to anyone in Nashville he/she must be a rip-off artist or completely incompetent. Once again, just my two cents as someone whose only qualification is that I listen to the radio occasionally. smile


On face value, i'd agree with that. People throw together a crap demo of a crap song, and then when nobody wants it, they blame the industry.

But, so much of the music that sells does not require great songwriting. Most of it relies on the production. With the right producers, arrangers, musicians, engineers, anybody can put out an outstanding record.

Even a garbage song can start to sound really good when it's done right.

At the end of th day it comes down to how good a production it is. people listen to a recording and like it for whatever reason, they sure as hell dont sit there and say "ahh gee, why didnt they rhyme that last line" or "this whole song makes no sense"

Even if they do, they dont care, they are buying an experience, not a lyric or a melody.

Ever hear a live version of your favorite song? More often than not live albums suck, there are exceptions. It's much better being at the arena watching it, than listening to it at home.

Recordings are they key, and if you have a great recording, with a great producer, and not just a generic recording done at an affordable demo place... you can get on radio and be successful.

Hey I think I could make one hell of a record, if I had say, Phill Ramone producing me, with Bob Clearmountain recording me, with session musicians who played on every hit you ever heard, backing me, and with people who can get it on the radio

Imagine having all that, you could do it too. Miley Cyrus and Taylor Swift do it this way, if they recorded on my gear, with me as engineer and producer, they wont sound any better than me.

So it comes down to who gets the chance to work with these people.

If you took every song on this forum and recorded it and produced it by the same person, or company, you'd start to hear a whole lot of common ground with all of them. Alot of times the only thing that sets a song apart is the production.

One guy sings better than another, his SONG is better. Might not be true at all, but it IS true.