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#769769 - 11/13/09 02:42 PM
Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Mark Kaufman
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So you wanna be a rock and roll star? Okay! Here's the deal:
I wrote this song a long time ago, and used to play it in my band. Recently I thought I'd bring it back to life...but I found the old words just don't grab me anymore. But I DO still like the music! So I thought, hey, why not give it to the people for a fun challenge? So here it is...I'm going to let YOU have fun with it. If you're up to the challenge, your mission is to come up with the vocals and record them. It's rock and roll karaoke, baby! 
This means you need to come up with lyrics and a melody, and then sing it! When you're done, post it up here on this thread for us all to listen to what you came up with.  Some other day I'll post what the song USED to be, but I wanna hear what YOU come up with.
This is strictly for fun, so let's not worry about copyrights, legalities, blah blah blah...life is too short. I won't be stealing your ideas, pinky promise. It begins and ends here, but it's something you can keep forever and maybe even show to your grandkids someday. If you want, you can send me an MP3 of your vocals and I'll mix it together for you, but it's pretty easy to mix yourself if you have recording software. Either way is fine with me.
Here's the song:
http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8347244
And here is a breakdown of the structure:
0:00 Intro (D C G, D C F)
0:15 Verse 1 (G C G, FCG)
0:27 Verse 2 (G C G)
0:38 PreChorus (F D Bb Am)
0:45 Chorus (G C G C Em A D C)
0:56 Chorus (repeat) (G C G C Em A D C)
1:08 Instrumental (same as the intro) (D C G, D C F)
1:20 Verse 3 (G C G)
1:31 Mini-Bridge! Just a one-line change-up to stave off boredom!  (Bb F C D)
1:37 Verse 4 (G C G)
1:49 PreChorus (F D Bb Am)
1:55 Chorus (G C G C Em A D C)
2:07 Chorus (repeat) (G C G C Em A D C)
2:18 Outro (G C G C Em A7 D7 C7 G)
And there it is, short and sweet, in and out in less than 3 minutes. Have fun with it! Name it whatever you like, add anything else you want...some harmony, another instrument, whatever. Sky's the limit! Have fun, and...Let's RAWK and ROLL, PEE-POLE!!! 
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#769774 - 11/13/09 02:54 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Joice Marie
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wooowHHHoooooo
another Marky Challenge !! : )
cool Music !
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#769778 - 11/13/09 03:03 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Joice Marie]
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Joe Wrabek
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Nice music, Mark. What key is it in? (Tone-deaf, remember.)
Joe
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#769782 - 11/13/09 03:09 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Joe Wrabek]
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Mark Kaufman
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Nice music, Mark. What key is it in? (Tone-deaf, remember.)
Joe
Then what does it matter?
It's in G. I'll put the chords on that chart above in a bit...
OK, done!
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#769786 - 11/13/09 03:30 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Joe Wrabek
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Mark, it matters because even if I can't hear it, *you* can. Me, if I know what key it's in, I can usually follow the bass line. And you said the melody didn't matter. (We'll see about that.) Thanks for your help.
Joe
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#769831 - 11/13/09 06:08 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Mark Kaufman
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No problem, Joe. Seriously though, some rockers just talk their way through sometimes, like Lou Reed. Or there's always rapping!
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#769854 - 11/13/09 06:56 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Polly Hager
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Iffin I can find a way to record it, I will. I love the musication!
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#769865 - 11/13/09 07:40 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Mark Kaufman
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Yeah, well, I'll never forget the night my Dad caught me musicating...
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#769875 - 11/13/09 08:26 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Polly Hager
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You must have been dreadfully embarrassed! 
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#769879 - 11/13/09 08:50 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Mark Kaufman
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I told him, "No Dad, I don't 'ate music!"
And I didn't.
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#769884 - 11/13/09 09:01 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Polly Hager
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Yer so totally inbredded!
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#769941 - 11/14/09 12:38 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Joe Wrabek
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Lot of chords there, Mark. I'm not used to dealing with numbers higher'n three.
Joe
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#770102 - 11/14/09 02:49 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Joe Wrabek]
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Joice Marie
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Loc: Cornish Flat, NH, USA
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http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8351061
Hi Mark !!! EnJoY -- Thanks for letting us play !
well -- I adapted lyrics from some that I did not have music for yet - this was FuN
so Maybe I'll try one from scratch too
jm
EDITED
Spoon Dancing © 2009 joice marie lyrics
MUSIC - Mark Kaufman challenge
Friday night
boys and girls
wanna play
feels alright
live music
on the stage
Saturday
out again
girl meets boy
gonna sway
steel guitar 'n
one cowboy
shakin it - takin it - all the way
were moon dancing
spoon dancing
hot dogs on display
moon dancing
spoon dancing
shakin away the work day
All week long
All work
and No play
Come Friday Night
Comes time
for a Hay day
Couple of beers
dancing
to a song
two lovers
spoon dancing
all night long
shakin it - takin it - all the way
were moon dancing
spoon dancing
hot dogs on display
moon dancing
spoon dancing
shakin away the work day
were moon dancing
spoon dancing
hot dogs on display
moon dancing
spoon dancing
shakin away the work day
shakin it - takin it - all the way
Edited by Joice Marie (11/15/09 10:52 AM)
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#770267 - 11/15/09 02:09 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Joice Marie]
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nightengale
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I love a challenge, and have never been one to pass them up unless they're out of my reach.
I'm still procrastinating on my michrophone, then need to learn how to put the words with music. (I don't know what a good mic for this is).
I wrote a lyric for this for female vox. (Actually wrote for my voice range, though I only sing with a few locals I know and not in public). I'm not that brave yet.
This is just a real simple lyric, but I thought if any female vox wants to put this to Marks music, I'd contribute it. It's nothing special, just a little rock and roll with a little bit country. your's for the taking:
Nothing But Bad News
Verse 1
I ain't puttin' up with no more lies,
You mess around on me out with the guys.
Verse2
You tell me I'm the only one for you,
Mama didn't raise me to be anybody's fool.
Pre Chorus
Playin' me, playin' me isn't cool..
Chorus 1
You showed me, mama told me,
What you're all about.
You showed me, mama told me,
This will not work out.
Chorus 2
You showed me mama told me,
You can not be true.
You showed me, mama told me,
You're nothing but bad news.
Break
Verse 3
Mama told me kiss that man good-bye,
Find a man that don't need alibi's.
Short Bridge
He's untrue..........
Verse 4
Mama said if that man get's a chance,
He won't give you a second glance.
Pre Chorus
He's played you, played you cause he can..
Chorus 1
He showed you, what mama told you,
What he's all about.
He showed you, what mama told you,
This will not work out.
Chorus 2
He showed you, what mama told you,
He can not be true.
He showed you, what mama told you,
He's nothing but bad news.
Otto
He won't be takin' you, makin' you his fool..
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#770293 - 11/15/09 06:38 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: nightengale]
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Calvin
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Loc: Okeechobee, Florida U.S.A.
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A big thanks to Mark Kaufman for letting us all play around with his cool music.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/calvinstewart
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gone Green
© words and music by Mark Kaufman / C. Stewart ( Nov. 12, 2009 )
Watched my lover
Pack her suitcase
Told me she was
Going someplace
CHORUS....
She's gone
Obscene
Long gone
Gone green
Fell in love at
The produce stand
Walked away with
Something grand
REPEAT CHORUS......
Now what she loves
Grows on the farm
It's half the size
Of a midgets arm
REPEAT CHORUS.....
It's hard to compete
With a toy you can eat
REPEAT CHORUS....
Played me like a
Lonesome ballad
Tossed me like a
Ceasars salad
REPEAT CHORUS.....
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/calvinstewart _________________________
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Calvin
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#770335 - 11/15/09 11:40 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Mark Kaufman
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http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8351061Hi Mark !!! EnJoY -- Thanks for letting us play ! well -- I adapted lyrics from some that I did not have music for yet - this was FuN so Maybe I'll try one from scratch too jm EDITED
Spoon Dancing © 2009 joice marie lyrics
MUSIC - Mark Kaufman challenge
Friday night
boys and girls
wanna play
feels alright
live music
on the stage
Saturday
out again
girl meets boy
gonna sway
steel guitar 'n
one cowboy
shakin it - takin it - all the way
were moon dancing
spoon dancing
hot dogs on display
moon dancing
spoon dancing
shakin away the work day
All week long
All work
and No play
Come Friday Night
Comes time
for a Hay day
Couple of beers
dancing
to a song
two lovers
spoon dancing
all night long
shakin it - takin it - all the way
were moon dancing
spoon dancing
hot dogs on display
moon dancing
spoon dancing
shakin away the work day
were moon dancing
spoon dancing
hot dogs on display
moon dancing
spoon dancing
shakin away the work day
shakin it - takin it - all the way
YEAH!! What a blast to hear this! I couldn't get online all day yesterday, and now I have to rush off to work--so bummed! I want to hear these other ones, aaaack!
Nice stuff, Joice, and you even took a song you already had and changed it up!
I can see this is just going to be endless delight for me...thanks to every one for trying this out!
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#770337 - 11/15/09 11:44 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Mark Kaufman
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Nightengale and Calvin, so sorry I can't listen until the end of the night!...working open to close today. Can't wait! Thanks for trying this out! -Mark
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#770466 - 11/15/09 10:46 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Mark Kaufman
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A big thanks to Mark Kaufman for letting us all play around with his cool music. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/calvinstewart~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gone Green
© words and music by Mark Kaufman / C. Stewart ( Nov. 12, 2009 )
Watched my lover
Pack her suitcase
Told me she was
Going someplace
CHORUS....
She's gone
Obscene
Long gone
Gone green
Fell in love at
The produce stand
Walked away with
Something grand
REPEAT CHORUS......
Now what she loves
Grows on the farm
It's half the size
Of a midgets arm
REPEAT CHORUS.....
It's hard to compete
With a toy you can eat
REPEAT CHORUS....
Played me like a
Lonesome ballad
Tossed me like a
Ceasars salad
REPEAT CHORUS.....http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/calvinstewart _________________________
Hahaaaaaaaa!! Finally got to listen, and I've been laughing for a few minutes now...Love it, Cal.
It actually sounds a lot like Lou Reed! It's like Lou Reed with a sense of humor.
And it just goes to show you that there are lots of different ways to eat--it's not always about meat, and everybody knows that greens are good for you.
I also had a moment of amazement--you ended the song saying bye...and so did I! The last word in my song is "byebye". If you count "byebye" as a word.
Anyway, thanks for the fun!
And...bon apetit!
-Marky
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#770501 - 11/16/09 03:48 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Calvin
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Loc: Okeechobee, Florida U.S.A.
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Hi Mark,
&hey... thanks for the fun challenge.
When this is all over we'll be looking forward to hearing the original lyrics to this one.
""--you ended the song saying bye--".......what are the odds ?
by
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/calvinstewart
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#770532 - 11/16/09 07:23 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Calvin
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Hi Mark,
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/calvinstewart
Here's one Me & Joice Marie wrote in Feb.
BLooD oN MY AMP
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BLOOD ON MY AMP
© words by C. Stewart/Joice Marie ( Feb 14, 2009 )
Head rush
Shimmy
On a five foot stage
Who let
The snake
Get out of the cage
No awards just
Bright chords and
Blood on my amp
Darkness
Explodes
From my golden strings
I'm not
One of
Those boy band things
I'll do it for free, I don't need a hundred grand
I can shift gears with my rock and roll hands
I'd do it free, I don't need to get paid
Follow the noise, don't be afraid
No awards just
Bright chords and
Blood on my amp
Red blood on my amp
Don't Stop
Take a Shot
Make My Rocket Fly
Be bop
Get Hot
Tell your lover by
No awards just
Bright chords and
Blood on my amp
Red blood on my amp
I'd do it free, I don't need to get paid
Follow the noise, don't be afraid
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/calvinstewart
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Calvin
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#770535 - 11/16/09 07:53 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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"Tampa Stan" Good
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HiDee Mark!
Dog-Tired in the Early AM, I listened & re-listened..then Wrote.
Then couldn't find this thread...so..."Inspired By MK" Lyric is at Lyrics FB Board 3..."TIGHTER".
Far-From Tightly-Written...but your Root Melody's the Bed for the Verses..& that 2-note lick at the end of the Verses got Repeated..3X..as The Hook.
Thanks for the Inspiration, Amigo...WISH it had Musicatin'..but it's a fun read, anyways!
Best Wishes, Big Guy-Hug, & THANKS for the Challenge!
Stan
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#770595 - 11/16/09 10:45 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Mark Kaufman
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Loc: Minneapolis
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Hi Mark, http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/calvinstewartHere's one Me & Joice Marie write in Feb. BLooD oN MY AMP ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ BLOOD ON MY AMP © words by C. Stewart/Joice Marie ( Feb 14, 2009 ) Head rush Shimmy On a five foot stage Who let The snake Get out of the cage No awards JUST Bright chords AND Blood on my amp Darkness Explodes From my golden strings I'm not One of Those boy band things I'll do it FOR free, I don't need a hundred grand I CAN SHIFT GEARS WITH MY ROCK AND ROLL HANDS I'd do it free, I don't need to get paid Follow the noise, don't be afraid No awards JUST Bright chords AND Blood on my amp Red blood on my amp Don't Stop Take a Shot Make My Rocket Fly Be bop Get Hot Tell your lover by No awards JUST Bright chords AND Blood on my amp Red blood on my amp I'd do it free, I don't need to get paid Follow the noise, don't be afraid http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/calvinstewart
Twisted! And what's more rock and roll than a bloody amp?
This is too much fun! Thanks again Calvin and Joice!
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#770598 - 11/16/09 10:52 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: nightengale]
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Mark Kaufman
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Posts: 5927
Loc: Minneapolis
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I love a challenge, and have never been one to pass them up unless they're out of my reach.
I'm still procrastinating on my michrophone, then need to learn how to put the words with music. (I don't know what a good mic for this is).
I wrote a lyric for this for female vox. (Actually wrote for my voice range, though I only sing with a few locals I know and not in public). I'm not that brave yet.
This is just a real simple lyric, but I thought if any female vox wants to put this to Marks music, I'd contribute it. It's nothing special, just a little rock and roll with a little bit country. your's for the taking:
Nothing But Bad News
Verse 1
I ain't puttin' up with no more lies,
You mess around on me out with the guys.
Verse2
You tell me I'm the only one for you,
Mama didn't raise me to be anybody's fool.
Pre Chorus
Playin' me, playin' me isn't cool..
Chorus 1
You showed me, mama told me,
What you're all about.
You showed me, mama told me,
This will not work out.
Chorus 2
You showed me mama told me,
You can not be true.
You showed me, mama told me,
You're nothing but bad news.
Break
Verse 3
Mama told me kiss that man good-bye,
Find a man that don't need alibi's.
Short Bridge
He's untrue..........
Verse 4
Mama said if that man get's a chance,
He won't give you a second glance.
Pre Chorus
He's played you, played you cause he can..
Chorus 1
He showed you, what mama told you,
What he's all about.
He showed you, what mama told you,
This will not work out.
Chorus 2
He showed you, what mama told you,
He can not be true.
He showed you, what mama told you,
He's nothing but bad news.
Otto
He won't be takin' you, makin' you his fool..
Nightengale, I really like this! I wish I could hear it, but I definitely understand that the idea of singing and posting it on the internet for the entire planet to hear can be a bit daunting. Well, that and not having a mic. But this is a great rock lyric...has a lot of room for attitude and emotion, and I've come to believe that's more important to a rock lyric than story, wordplay or even imagery.
Nice one! Thanks for doing this...it's really fun for me to see, and hopefully a different kind of challenge for people to try.
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#770600 - 11/16/09 10:57 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Mark Kaufman
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Posts: 5927
Loc: Minneapolis
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HiDee Mark!
Dog-Tired in the Early AM, I listened & re-listened..then Wrote.
Then couldn't find this thread...so..."Inspired By MK" Lyric is at Lyrics FB Board 3..."TIGHTER".
Far-From Tightly-Written...but your Root Melody's the Bed for the Verses..& that 2-note lick at the end of the Verses got Repeated..3X..as The Hook.
Thanks for the Inspiration, Amigo...WISH it had Musicatin'..but it's a fun read, anyways!
Best Wishes, Big Guy-Hug, & THANKS for the Challenge!
Stan
Wow Stan, an entirely different angle. I like "Tighter"...great one-word hooks can really make a song, especially rock.
One thing I want to make sure people understand is that I don't really have a melody here...I just have a backing band laying down the chords and the structure...finding a melody to sing is all part of the challenge here.
Is any brave soul interested in singing these fine lyrics that Stan and Nightengale have written? The lyrics help you to map out the melody, you know...
The more the merrier!
I'll post my original in maybe a week, thought I'm getting tempted to try out a different melody too, just because this challenge thing is contagious!
Thanks for playing everyone!
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#771011 - 11/17/09 08:08 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Polly Hager
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Posts: 2499
Loc: Cincinnati, OH USA
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I can't look at/listen to what anyone else has done yet, still have the hope against hope I'll get into Dave's studio and do my version before I'm like 80! Mark, can I use your music? Dave said something about burning it on a cd...adding it on his computer as a track, adding my vocal, and mixing. Would that work?
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#771027 - 11/17/09 08:53 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Polly Hager]
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Mark Kaufman
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I can't look at/listen to what anyone else has done yet, still have the hope against hope I'll get into Dave's studio and do my version before I'm like 80! Mark, can I use your music? Dave said something about burning it on a cd...adding it on his computer as a track, adding my vocal, and mixing. Would that work?
Absolutely! That's the way to do it!
It's just that every time my music gets played on MTV, you owe me a beer. Them's the rules.
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#771054 - 11/17/09 10:36 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Polly Hager
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Posts: 2499
Loc: Cincinnati, OH USA
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I can't look at/listen to what anyone else has done yet, still have the hope against hope I'll get into Dave's studio and do my version before I'm like 80! Mark, can I use your music? Dave said something about burning it on a cd...adding it on his computer as a track, adding my vocal, and mixing. Would that work? Absolutely! That's the way to do it! It's just that every time my music gets played on MTV, you owe me a beer. Them's the rules.
How about a sharp stick in the eye! Just kidding...a beer per play is good...but man, yer gonna get PLASTERED!
Edited by Polly Hager (11/17/09 10:50 PM)
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#771059 - 11/17/09 10:53 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Mark Kaufman
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Stone cold sober, Cougarwoman!
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#771239 - 11/18/09 05:18 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Noel Downs
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Well I listened ... got an idea... wrote it last night in about 20 minutes ... only I didn't have the music... :oops: Ah well I need to go back a rewrite now but hey I like what I got ... so even if it don't work.... Thanks Mark ....ifn I get it fittin I'll post
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#771253 - 11/18/09 06:13 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Noel Downs]
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Mark Kaufman
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Great Noel! Please do.
I know this music is probably a little too boisterous for a lot of folks, but this idea seems like good practice for people who don't often get to work with existing music. I think I'll dig through the vault, find a few songs in different genres, and just post them up without vocals and call them Freeware. If someone actually manages to take one somewhere and somehow even makes money with it, at least I could say "Hey, I wrote that!"
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#771306 - 11/18/09 08:50 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Mark Kaufman]
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Polly Hager
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Loc: Cincinnati, OH USA
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Well I like THIS one...just my vote. I like rawkin things up around here. Still trying to get Larry to record my vox on it. Maybe tomorrow (crosses fingers and toes). So keep the challenge going, Kaufman. I might get to rawk out with ya after all!
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#771313 - 11/18/09 09:00 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Polly Hager]
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Mark Kaufman
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DO it, Polly!
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#771435 - 11/19/09 09:52 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Joice Marie
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.. even though rock lyrics can be simple and diverse as we see with Mark's challenge --- making a good sound rock SONG -- is a whole other level of challenge --- starting with a really solid bed track as Mark has here - definitely gives you a foot up .... I would reccommend that folks try this -- it's an 'aye' opener. : )
Thanks again Mark !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#771594 - 11/19/09 09:32 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Joice Marie]
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Mark Kaufman
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Thanks Joice!
I want to wait quite a while before I post the original, because it tends to sway people too much, and I'm hoping others might still want to try this sometime. Funny thing is, now I keep hearing different melodies for this.
For those who ARE attempting this for the first time and having trouble, maybe try this out:
Think a section at a time. First just focus on that bit between 0:15 and 0:27 for awhile. Keep looping it or just "rewinding" as you try to hum some sort of melody that will sound cool. Don't try to match the same notes being played...try to find a riff that will stand out and sound good together with it.
Once you get that much, see if it still sounds good repeating the same melody on the next section, 0:38 to 0:45. Still works? Great! Now you have a melody for the verses, and you can write four matching lyrics for it later.
Now skip to the chorus (we'll get back to the pre-chorus later). What's a melody that will sound good from 0:45 to 0:56? Focus on that bit...it's the chorus, mind you, so make it fun. Do it just like the verse, by looping it, and trying different ways, over and over, until you find one that sounds cool to you. Once you've done that, you've already taken care of all three of the other choruses, so you can write the words later...(you can either repeat the same thing all four times, or have sort of a Part A Part B style that you repeat all over again at 1:55).
Now that you have your chorus, what would be a cool way to lead into it? NOW is a good time to work that Pre-Chorus at 0:38...something that naturally takes you out of the verse melody and into the chorus melody.
Once you have that, your composing duties are done! Except for that little wildcard at 1:31, but once you start writing your lyrics, that will probably just blurt right out of ya.
Good luck, hope some more people give it a shot, just for the heck of it.
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#772805 - 11/23/09 07:46 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Mark Kaufman]
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Noel Downs
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Ok here's my interpretation... I struggled with the chorus... the sung chorus (though not sure it could be classified as singing) is not the same as what is written... still not right but ... anyway I'd like thank the Muppet Band in particular Animal who steped away from the drums to take on lead vocal
http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8387005
Benny the Frog
Copyright Downs/Kaufman
Benny Alf was a strange looking boy,
Bowed legs with a head on top,
He hated school,
The kids were cruel,
They called him Benny the Frog.
Weird kinda walk sorta wobbly kneed,
He’d sway from side to side,
No-one looked at him,
He never fitted in,
But he learned how to survive.
Benny
They called him Benny the Frog.
Benny the Frog
Kids were so danged cruel,
They called him Benny the Frog.
Benny the Frog
Yeah those kids were so cruel,
To Benny the Frog
Was past 18 when fate stepped in,
While picking grand pa’s guitar,
It came as a shock,
He could really rock,
Soon he became a star,
Benny the Frog
Benny still looks pretty much the same,
As he sways across the stage,
Girls raise a din,
They wanna be with him,
To be the father of their babes.
Benny
They called him Benny the Frog.
Benny the Frog
Now they think Benny’s cool,
Same kids who were so cruel.
To Benny the Frog
Benny the Frog
Now they think Benny’s cool,
Same kids who were so cruel.
To Benny the Frog
Benny the Frog
They called him Benny the Frog.
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#772870 - 11/23/09 10:33 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Noel Downs]
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Mark Kaufman
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WOOOOOOOHOO! You made it sound like something The Who would do! Very "Boris the Spider"-like! Only with Keith Moon doing the vocals. Haha! Gotta listen again....
Thanks Noel!
-Mark
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#772900 - 11/24/09 01:09 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Mark Kaufman]
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Noel Downs
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Thanks Feel free to post it on the MP3 board
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#773081 - 11/24/09 02:57 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Noel Downs]
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Polly Hager
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Registered: 09/21/08
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Loc: Cincinnati, OH USA
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Here it is! My rendition of "Kaufman Karaoke" and HE RAWKS! I suggest this particular exercise for anyone!
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=996835
Gimme Some Rockin'
A lot less talk and a lot more action baby
Ya gotta rock it like ya got it if ya wanna hang out with me
Saturday night it's a good time for the takin'
So jump on it baby 'cuz you know I got what you need
Don't talk the talk and not walk the walk
Got no time for posers
Gimme some rockin' 'cuz that's how I roll
A little bit crazy and out of control
You don't need a ticket to hang out with me
Just gimme some rockin'...that's what I need
Let's jump in the back seat and do a shot of whiskey
We're gonna party all night then I'm gonna drive you wild
Look's like we got us a couple of fights
The kids are all crazy, feelin' alright
Don't stop now honey I'm just getting started
Enough of the teasin' baby just give it to me
Don't talk the talk and not walk the walk
Got no time for posers
Gimme some rockin' 'cuz that's how I roll
A little bit crazy and out of control
Don't need a ticket to hang out with me
Just gimme some rockin'...that's what I need!
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Edited by Polly Hager (11/24/09 08:49 PM)
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#773116 - 11/24/09 04:55 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Polly Hager]
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Noel Downs
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WOW Polly that's way cool
Really nailed it
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#773122 - 11/24/09 05:22 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Noel Downs]
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Mark Kaufman
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Registered: 09/25/07
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Loc: Minneapolis
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Holy Shipping Charge, Catwoman! I need a cold shower!
Polly's no stranger to rock and roll, is she? Nice one!
Love the badness of jumping in the back seat for a whiskey shot, hahaha...! Some very strange similarities to the original going on with these versions...one of the lines in mine, written way back in the mid-80's, was "he'll be drinkin' Johnnie Walker from a coffee cup..." And it ends with "bye bye"...so you and Calvin must be channeling something somehow...either that or you've hacked my computer, LOL.
Rock on, Polly! Thanks for playin'!
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#773166 - 11/24/09 07:11 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Mark Kaufman]
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Joe Wrabek
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Registered: 11/28/03
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Loc: Garibaldi, OR USA
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I like "Kaufman karaoke." Nice ring to it. Mark, you should do more of these.
I don't think the slipping into the back seat for a shot of whisky is necessarily channeling--I think it's inherent in the genre. When I was a teenager, my dad warned me, "That jungle bunny music makes the teenaged girls all want to have sex." I've been playing it ever since...
Joe
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#773246 - 11/24/09 11:50 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Joe Wrabek]
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Polly Hager
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Registered: 09/21/08
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Loc: Cincinnati, OH USA
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Okay, I FINALLY got to read and listen to what everyone else did and (cub)SCOUTS honor...I DID NOT read or listen to anything before I did mine.
Joice Marie...I loved your rendition. Some of our "vocal" notes sounded the same, but that was coincidence. Anyway, Spoon Dancin' was cool!
Calvin...I am a great fan. You made this one just as great as your others. I love your spoken voice in it. Very cool!
Nightengale, your lyric was good. I could see it fitting the musication.
Noel, yeah, Mark nailed it on the head...very Keith Moon! Good job!
I thank you all for your comments on my rendition. I am kind of a lil' sis cowering in the corner watching Mark. He had me at "Catwalk Candy" (Calvin collab) and I've always wanted to do something he wrote ever since. I'm so happy that I got to do the Kaufman karaoke thing, because it was a PERFECT way for me to test the lyricist/melodist waters and get to do something of Kaufman's! It made my week!
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#773252 - 11/25/09 12:52 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Polly Hager]
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Mark Kaufman
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Registered: 09/25/07
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Well then, I'll definitely do more of these. Got a lot of different songs in different genres that would probably be put to better use letting people have fun playing with them than sitting in computers and notebooks and memories.
So fun to hear these! I'll post "Trip With Jimmy", the original, someday soon. Anyone else want to try this first?
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#773253 - 11/25/09 01:08 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Mark Kaufman]
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Polly Hager
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Registered: 09/21/08
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Loc: Cincinnati, OH USA
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Okay,first of all CALVIN does NOT get first shot at that!!! NOT FAIR!!!
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#773256 - 11/25/09 02:08 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Polly Hager]
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Mark Kaufman
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First shot? No...I mean, I'll try to post more instrumental things that singers can sing, and/or songs with melodies that lyricists can write for. What the hell...it's only music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzjoqpTqSR4
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#773665 - 11/26/09 11:21 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Mark Kaufman]
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Polly Hager
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Loc: Cincinnati, OH USA
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I meant it as a joke Mark (should have put the smiley face by my post). "Tripping with Jimmy" sounds like something right up Calvin's alley!
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#773673 - 11/26/09 11:39 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Calvin
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trippin' with Jimi
start it..... :-)
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#773791 - 11/26/09 07:30 PM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Calvin]
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Joice Marie
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Loc: Cornish Flat, NH, USA
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Hi Neil
What a fun spin that was !! Ha very Cool
and Polly I think yours is rocking really -- it doesn't surprise me if notes cross over -- to me chords have a melody of their own. ;+)
So Mark is that the Title of YOURS -- Trip with Jimmy -- is that how I understand this?
anyway -- looking forward to hearing it
jm
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#774026 - 11/27/09 11:45 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
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Mark Kaufman
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That was the title, yup. I'll try to post it this week...even though it has been trumped by others now.
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#775254 - 12/01/09 03:04 AM
Re: Rock Out With Kaufman!
[Re: Mark Kaufman]
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Mark Kaufman
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Registered: 09/25/07
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Loc: Minneapolis
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Well, seems to have run it's course, so here's the original version. It's really been a blast to hear all the different ways people found to put voices to this...so many different angles. Thanks for playing with me!
http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8420012
Trip with Jimmy
Jimmy's got a place by the Tastee Freez
And he can get what you want if you give him a piece
Of change
A price in every range
He'll be drinking Johnnie Walker from a coffee cup
And you can drop by anytime 'cause the boy stays up
For days
Boy's got crazy ways
And if he takes you for a ride
You're gonna wake up on the other side
And it takes you over (Jimmy teach you to fly)
And it takes you under (See you baby, bye bye)
Take a trip with Jimmy, wave bye bye
And it takes you over (Jimmy teach you to fly)
And it takes you under (See you baby, bye bye)
Take a trip with Jimmy, wave bye bye
At a slip of the tongue he'll put a trip in your brew
And if you say Screw You then he'll say he loves you
Too
And you'll believe it's true
Can't seem to stop that boy from trying
And as the rock and roll screams the American Dream
You feel your heart give out as you start to shout
Your name
Crazy crazy game
And though your keys are on the shelf
You feel you'll never quite retrieve yourself
And it takes you over (Jimmy teach you to fly)
And it takes you under (See you baby, bye bye)
Take a trip with Jimmy, wave bye bye
And it takes you over (Jimmy teach you to cry)
And it takes you under (See you baby, bye bye)
Take a trip with Jimmy, wave bye bye
Bye bye
Copyright 1987 by Mark Kaufman
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