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#515384 - 06/24/07 01:19 AM Most Under Appreciated Guitarists  
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I know that from the beginning here, the most underrated guitarist has been done to death.
So I am speaking more for under appreciated guitarists.
High accolades as far as contemporaries to them but grossly unmentioned.
My nominee for most under appreciated guitarist is Donald "Buck Dharma" Roeser of Blue Oyster Cult.

Great, inventive group in general that was around before the New York Dolls and Kiss.
Family men that had the appearance of union workers instead of glammed out pop metalists.
Heavy metal to me has always been more about the imagery in the music instead of the looks thing.
And Blue Oyster Cult had the musical imagary in spades.
The absolute Stephen King's of music.
Unfortunately overlooked because of the demon image.
They could rock as hard as any thrash band out there (and still can) and yet sound as soft and sweet as on any Kansas album.
And the guitar attack was definaly both a combination of axe grinding playing and classicalist performing.

The chic men with the leg warmers did more for the destruction of metal and rock in general and brought on the alt scene.
But acts like Blue Oyster Cult and later acts like Metallica, Iron Maiden, and Metal Church helped keep the respect in loud rock.

My hats off!

Matt

#516089 - 06/26/07 03:35 PM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: mattbanx]  
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I think we may have touched on this before, but I gotta go again and give props to:

Robert Quine (Richard Hell & The Voidoids/Matthew Sweet/many others):
He's my favorite player ever. Simply bludgeons his instrument. Listen to the lead playing on Sweet's "Girlfriend".

Joey Santiago (Pixies):
Listen to "Vamos" (from Surfer Rosa) and tell me that is not just a sick guitar part. Not your traditional guitar hero, to be sure, but that is another part of what I love about his playing.

There are a number of other guitar players that can (and probaly eventually will )mention in this thread, who may get their props with those more-knowledgeable in the underground scene, are not really well-known by the mainstream.

#516126 - 06/26/07 06:26 PM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: PopTodd]  
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#516127 - 06/26/07 06:27 PM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: Tom Tracy]  
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and Bob Young

#516128 - 06/26/07 06:27 PM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: Tom Tracy]  
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and that other big guy from Chicago that I can't even remember his name. That's how unappreciated he is. :-)

#516136 - 06/26/07 06:45 PM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: Tom Tracy]  
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Rafael Moreira from the Rockstar TV show. That guy can play. In fact, the whole house band was head & shoulders above anything else on that stage. They should put out an album and tour.


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#516291 - 06/27/07 03:25 AM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: Kaika Kale]  
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I recall the Pixies.
That was right from a small age when they came out I decided I love seventies and eighties rock.
While the music scene was getting MTV'd out, there was those acts more toward the underground.
I also recall a part grunge, rock folk act called The Posies.
They actually sounded better to me with fewer instruments and production. Ken Stringfellow and John Auer could seemingly play anything on guitar and reminded me a lot of Simon & Garfunkel with their singing. I think Failure (Their first album) was their best.
I listed metal guitarists that were underappreciated.
But I could definately list more.

Matt

#516298 - 06/27/07 04:51 AM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: mattbanx]  
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My former band opened for Blue Oyster Cult in 2003, and they still kick ass, but someone should tell their "people" they no longer sell out the Garden, and should knock off the "rock star" attitude.


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Lindsey Buckingham, Tony Rice, Gary Moore, Rick Derringer, Albert Lee, Henry Johnson, Al Anderson, Jason Roller, Sub.
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#516419 - 06/27/07 02:51 PM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: Moker Jarrett]  
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and tom tracy..

i'm sitting here strolling down memory lane..

i was a hotshot guitar player many years ago..

mr big shot!

then...one night in wisconsin, mr big shot was doing a show on his home turf...to a couple thousand of his fans...and opening for some black guy from texas....freddie king...

mr big shot sez "bring him on!"...

they did........

i can still feel the pain........

he blew me off the stage so effortlessly he didn't even notice...i landed out on the street..bounced a few times with my guitar stuffed into my anal cavity and headed for the lake...i splashed in and bobbed up and down helplesslly for several years...

i learned, that night, that the big dogs walk qietly...that they are always out there....waiting...ready for you and your dreams.....and if you cross them, they will take bites from your ass....

the most under appreciated guitarist is some kid in bubblejump iowa that none of us have ever heard...probably never will hear...but......he (or she) is there...practicing while we waste time....

i hope he gets a record deal and gets a break....

i'm gonna have a couple of hot dogs and watch the cub game....i'll practice my mandolin while the game is on....it drives the cats crazy

bob


Terry Kath was a helluva guitar player!

shot himself....what a drag...

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#516451 - 06/27/07 04:52 PM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: Bob Young (D)]  
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Bob,

You mention Freddy King. Man, he was the MAN. He was my favorite blues guitar player, bar none. If anyone wants to know how Eric Clapton learned to play the blues, listen to Freddy King. You will recognize it from having listened to Eric Clapton for the past 40 years. In fact, on the original Bluesbreakers album with a 19 year old Eric, there were at least 3 classic Freddy King songs on it.

I saw Freddy shortly before he died where he opened up for Clapton, and they came out and did a short set together after each of their own sets. They were basically playing in unison through most of the set, with some tradeoff of licks. It was quite a show! It was one of my all time favorite live performances that I ever attended.

#516472 - 06/27/07 06:03 PM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: Jack Swain]  
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Yeah...freddie was really special..

I've never been a big clapton fan..eric is , at his best, a great imitator...but not an original in the same sense as freddie and albert and others...

I love a great blues player...i'm not much of one, myself...but..good guitar blues is right out of heaven...

some brits do a real nice job, too...peter green in the early fleetwood mac days...whew...what a great touch he had....
Gary Moore...makes me sweat...i think he's a brit...

Clapton with john mayall was brilliant...but...he just lost the fire somehow...i dunno...

i remeember my first wife went up to freddie after the show to tell him how much she enjoyed his playing..he was a big bear of a man..jet black complexion...she was a little bitty japanese girl..about four eleven..maybe a hundred pounds tops..but really, really pretty.
Freddie just scooped her up, kissed her full on the lips and set her back down, all in one motion...(laughing)..boy..she was surprised...
That was in 1974, as i recall.....

he suree could play..and sang his ass off, too..

played a red 335 thru a super reverb...cranked!

i'd sure like to go back and relive that show...even tho it was an ass kicking for yours truly

bob

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#516477 - 06/27/07 06:27 PM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: Bob Young (D)]  
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Was it a 335 or a 355? I seem to remember the varitone switch when I saw him. He played two guitars in the show I saw, the other being a Les Paul. He also wore a bright red suit that looked great under the arena lights.

Personally, I am a big fan of Eric's and think he actually got a lot better in the late 80's when he made a concerted effort to refocus on the blues.

Iagree with you about the others you mentioned, as well. Peter Green was on the second Bluesbreaker album.

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#516494 - 06/27/07 06:45 PM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: Jack Swain]  
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now that you mention it, it coulda' been a 355...i dunno..he would play a 330 occasionally, that was two p 90s with no solid block in the guitar....

bb went to a 355 with varitone early on..on the old kent rcordings he's playing an es 175 d...the original "lucille" was a 175 with p 90s..

when freddie started out he was playing a telecaster believe it or not..that's the guitar on hideaway from 1955 or 56..i've seen pix of him with an esquire, too...

i know i'm in disagreement with most folks about clapton...i think he's a really good player..just not much of an innovator...jeff beck is a guy that took the blues and ran with it in my opinion...eric seemed more content to just play the old stuff...see....if he'd just taken my advice he coulda' been a real big star..oh well......they just never listen

bob

#516713 - 06/28/07 10:20 AM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: Bob Young (D)]  
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This is turning into more of a "guitar players that I like" thread and less of an "underappreciated" thread.
How is Clapton underrated?

#516718 - 06/28/07 10:47 AM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: Tom Tracy]  
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Originally Posted by Tom Tracy
and that other big guy from Chicago that I can't even remember his name. That's how unappreciated he is. :-)


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#516743 - 06/28/07 12:37 PM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: PopTodd]  
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Originally Posted by PopTodd
This is turning into more of a "guitar players that I like" thread and less of an "underappreciated" thread.
How is Clapton underrated?


Sorry if that is what you are reading, the message was concerning Freddy King, I only mentioned that I liked Eric Clapton also, not that he was underrated in any way. Yes, I do think Freddy is way underrated. Sorry if that was offensive to the topic.

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Originally Posted by Jack S.
Originally Posted by PopTodd
This is turning into more of a "guitar players that I like" thread and less of an "underappreciated" thread.
How is Clapton underrated?


Sorry if that is what you are reading, the message was concerning Freddy King, I only mentioned that I liked Eric Clapton also, not that he was underrated in any way. Yes, I do think Freddy is way underrated. Sorry if that was offensive to the topic.


Not your post so much as the responses, Jack.
And as far as "offensive to the topic"... BAH! I just like to point stuff out.

#516749 - 06/28/07 01:03 PM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: PopTodd]  
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Rolling Stone's List Of 100 Greatest Guitarists Of All Time (2003)

Since Roy Buchanan 57th on the list, he gets my vote. Note Clapton's at 3 and Freddie King's at 25.


1Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden


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#516754 - 06/28/07 01:09 PM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: John Voorpostel]  
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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Rolling Stone's List Of 100 Greatest Guitarists Of All Time (2003)

Since Roy Buchanan 57th on the list, he gets my vote. Note Clapton's at 3 and Freddie King's at 25.


1Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden


No Johnny Marr (of The Smiths)?
Now that is being overlooked!

#516772 - 06/28/07 01:59 PM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: PopTodd]  
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OK, Pop...certainly don't want to ruffle any feathers by digressing a bit and having some fun...

How 'bout" George Pritchard, a player from Milwaukee, and the single greatest all around guitar player I ever saw in my life!

Drank himself to death about 20 years ago...

Doesn't even show up on Google..the only recordings he ever did were some sessions with Nancy Wilson in New York about 30 years ago...
Played whatever guitar he hadn't pawned for booze on a given day..everything from rockabilly to bebop..no pedals, no fx..just him the guitar and the amp..

The best of the best..

I pay an homage to George every time I pick up a guitar..

Bob

howzat Pop?

uh, oh...pops gonna say I'm talking about greatest "unknown" guiar player, not underappreciated...oh well...I'm just a troublemaker....

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Originally Posted by Bob Young
OK, Pop...certainly don't want to ruffle any feathers by digressing a bit and having some fun...

How 'bout" George Pritchard, a player from Milwaukee, and the single greatest all around guitar player I ever saw in my life!

Drank himself to death about 20 years ago...

Doesn't even show up on Google..the only recordings he ever did were some sessions with Nancy Wilson in New York about 30 years ago...
Played whatever guitar he hadn't pawned for booze on a given day..everything from rockabilly to bebop..no pedals, no fx..just him the guitar and the amp..

The best of the best..

I pay an homage to George every time I pick up a guitar..

Bob

howzat Pop?

uh, oh...pops gonna say I'm talking about greatest "unknown" guiar player, not underappreciated...oh well...I'm just a troublemaker....


Boy.
Guess I pissed a couple of you (Jack, Bob, anyone else?) with my post back there.
Sorry 'bout that. Certainly didn't mean to.

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Sorry, pop...

these lists just piss me off...
look at that list...ya got kurt cobain ahead of guys like les paul...i mean...come on!

this stuff reminds me of the teen magazine articles in the 60's.."who;s got the grooviest blue eyes in tthe cowsills?"..
who's dreamier, the bee gees or bobby sherman?"..

how can you pick the most "underappreciated" guitarist....I think it's just silliness....

But...being true to the thread and acting in the spirit of concilliation, I will echo my friend Trumans mention of Roy Buchanan.

There...I'm on point....and, Pop....you're a good guy, sorry if I sounded bitchy...I've been so stressed worrying about Paris' jail time....I've got a conjugal visit with lyndsey Lohan coming up and I just don't know if I'll be able to concentrate.

Bob(where the hell is my viagra?) Young

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Originally Posted by PopTodd
I think we may have touched on this before, but I gotta go again and give props to:

Robert Quine (Richard Hell & The Voidoids/Matthew Sweet/many others):
He's my favorite player ever. Simply bludgeons his instrument. Listen to the lead playing on Sweet's "Girlfriend"
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Yes! he had a nice stint with Lou Reed as well, around Reed's "Blue Mask" period. Quine always struck my as a "primitive", having a real "visceral quality" in his playing...

I'd like to add a couple to the pot:

Marc Ribot...long time Tom Waits associate, considered an "outside" player, and so...taken seriously by few "inside" players...

Phil Manzanera...all the Roxy Music stuff, plus a few great solo offerings, especially "Primitive Guitars" on Eno's EG label...

Cheers,
Mike

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Don't get me started on Rolling Stones list of greatest guitarists {or Rolling Stone in general for that matter}
Kurt Cobain #12, Eddie Van Halen #70 ?????!!!!!!! WTF?????!!!!!


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Yes, that Rolling Stone list gave me a serious laugh, too!

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And Jack White's better than Freddie King, Dicky Betts, Mark Knopfler and Les Paul...and that's the best joke I've got today...

Bob, I had a chance to open for Rick Derringer for a Hooter's event,we were a good local act with Ampegs and Marshall's and thought we were pretty friggin' cool...'til the real guitar player blew us back to school...I still remember how good his licks were that night and that lingering feeling of humility...ha...Moker

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Hey Bob, are you the same Bob Young that wrote "Roll Me A Long One"? If so, my compliments...very humorous & well written.

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Joni Mitchell? Neil Young? great guitarists? I haven't read a Rolling Stone in 20 years. Guess I haven't missed much. I guess they're still smoking dope around there.

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Thanks, Kaika..

Yeah...that's me...when I do that one live I always have a guest from the audience come up and blow bubbles thru a straw in a glass of water to make a "bong" sound....
cheap showbiz crap that works every time!

What a wonderful country!..and what a great way to make a living....

Bob

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Bob and Moker, at least you got your doors blown by the best!..
Ben, You're missing NOTHING! Their{Rolling Stone} 40th anniversary issue was nothing but interviews with the extreme liberal left {Jane Fonda {die bitch!], Jimmy Carter, Norman Mailer, Micheal Moore ect} Only Bob Dylan and Jack Nicholson were smart enough to fend off their liberal baiting... And the week that Sam Phillips died [the man without whom Rock n Roll as we know it would have never existed!} they had THE OLSEN TWINS on the cover!!!!!!!! I wouldn't wipe my ass with that rag anymore!...Oh yeah, and the issue with Kanye West wearing a crown of thorns like Jesus on the cover!!!! {See, I TOLD you not to get me started!]

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#517054 - 06/29/07 08:54 AM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: Bob Cushing]  
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Jimmy Carter a member of the "extreme liberal left"?????

Bob, Bob, Bob......

As a proud member of the "extreme liberal left" I take exception to that remark!

And..if Rolling Stone is filling their pages with interviews from lefties...well...that tells me at least they're getting something right!

But....as a music magazine, I agree with you..they lost their crdebiblity many years ago...it is a rag, to be sure....but would I wipe my butt with it?....no...that's reserved for the pronouncements of Mr Bush and friends.
Rolling stone goes in the birdcage.

Bob

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Originally Posted by ben willis
Joni Mitchell? Neil Young? great guitarists? I haven't read a Rolling Stone in 20 years. Guess I haven't missed much. I guess they're still smoking dope around there.


Yeah, I would say that Neil is a great guitar player. He may not be a technique stud, or play 1,000,000 notes a second, but he hits me in the gut.

And another underappreciated guitar player that I think we can all agree is amazing:
David Hidalgo (Los Lobos)
Seriously, that guy will mop the stage with just about any of y'all. One of the most underappreciated BANDS of all-time, too. So much more than "La Bamba".

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Todd,I second the vote for Hildago. Bob, I clearly stated that I WOULDN'T wipe my butt with it {I might get infected or something!}

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smile I only went looking for that Rolling Stone list because I thought I'd back up my vote for Roy Buchanan with a hard and fast authoritive voice.....which I see now is not so authoritive in many a mind.

Oh well...

And Bob Young...how could you tarnish The Bongettes like that. I'm crushed by that buddy. Cheap showbiz crap...man o man. First Rolling Stone, now Bob Young. At least you're down on Bush. There's some redemption in there. Oh wait...you left out Cheney.


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I agree that Roy Buchanan is grossly underrated, but I would not look to any current music rag for justification of your point.

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Oh John...you're right again..

A sincere apology to all the bongettes from over the years...especially the exotic dancers from Lake Geneva who wore those "Who;s Bob Young" t shirts...

Hope Mr Cushing isn't sore at me...he looks like a pretty big guy and I'm too old for runnin'

Bob

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Poptodd, I like Neil Young and his electric guitar style is distinct. But I don't think that he should be on a list of "greatest guitarists of all time" just like I don't believe that Jimi Hendrix deserves to be no. 1 on the list. The people at Rolling Stone are a bunch of children and this is nothing more than a popularity list. Ben

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I could never be sore at YOU Bob. I can be buds with someone I disagree with politically.{My WIFE comes to mind!} Otherwise my only friend would be Ted Nugent, and HE doesn't drink,or even know that he's my friend!

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Thanks Bob. The Bob'n The Bongettes Travelling Roach err Road Show have once again assumed a special place in my personal pantheon of under appreciated acts. Say I see those dancers just fresh from a dip in the lake with your t shirt on. Brrrrr

BTW you going to Pineyfest this year??



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BC, Speaking of Ted Nugent for some reason he wasn't on the Rolling Stone list. A little left leaning bias maybe?

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#517995 - 07/01/07 08:29 PM Re: Most Under Appreciated Guitarists [Re: ben willis]  
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ted nugents exclusion from the list had nothing to do with left wing bias..loads of the metal guitar players are right wingers..
ted wasn't there cos' he's an overrated bum of a guitar player...

just my humble opinion...

and the opinion of many others of us that had to put up with his tired ass loin cloth routine in countless college bars in michigan in the 70's...

i had to watch that dope crawl on top of those twins many times and shoot that arrow across the room...jeeez...saw him "flop" out of the loincloth a few times as well..it waS then i realized he was less than the greatest on several levels..if you catch my drift...his mom is very cool tho..a right winger , too..but a great lady..just as smart as ted is dumb.

I know alot of you think I'm just an old gas bag...but...here's a little factoid...

I gave guitar lessons to one of the guys on that rolling stone list...he's from the liberyville mudelein area and i knew him as a 12 year old student..it was me that taught him smoke on the water and the joys of distorted guitar and the riff to pretty woman as well as how to read music..he was my student for about a year...a good kid and a good guy to this day..

bob

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Have to agree with you on the Nuge Bob. He doesn't play anything we haven't heard before. That would be my definition of an under rated player. Has anybody heard of Billy Crain? I think I spelled that right. He played for the Henry Paul Band, who was the former singer for the Outlaws. Now that guy played things I haven't heard before. He also hung out at a local bar in Tampa when some big names would play there and they would let him come up and play. One night Dicky Betts was playing and refused to let him join for a jam. Bett in my opinion didn't want to be bettered. We have a guy around town named Jim Terry who plays riffs that I've never heard using hybrid picking and slides. He is a under rated player and no one knows him except people around here.

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You know, DC..you touched on something that really matters to me..it's guitar players who play stuff we haven't neard before...those are the guys that really matter, in my opinion.
I've heard guys who maybe weren't as tecnically proficient as others who played the coolest off the wall [naughty word removed]...

Those are the guys high on any list I would make..

also..while I'm not a "jazz" guy..I notice the almost total absence of jazz playeers on the list...country, too...

Bob

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I just thought of a couple more - Earl Slick and Adrian Belew.

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Wow...I forgot about Adrian Belew...he's a guy from southern illinois...he used to come thru the joints here with a band...can't remember the name of the band but I sure remember HIM..

Talk about a guy playing sh*t (naughty word implied) that nobody ever heard before!

Bob

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Yeah, can you image a recording session with him...

"Adrian, can you give me a little more of the rhino sound, but with a bit less bird..."

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Originally Posted by Bob Young
Wow...I forgot about Adrian Belew...he's a guy from southern illinois...he used to come thru the joints here with a band...can't remember the name of the band but I sure remember HIM..

Talk about a guy playing sh*t (naughty word implied) that nobody ever heard before!

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