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Hey everyone--A new country song. Please listen and let me know what you think. Thank you.

There's Just No Way
(c)-2005

I packed everything I own in my car
I started down the road
I'm glad I didn't get to far
Cause I thought of something you ought to know

There's just no way
There's just no way
I can live without you...in my life

We've had our disagreements
We've had our little fights
I can't stand the thought of missing you
Especially when it comes to night

I'm turning this car around
We're gonna straighten things out
I'm not gonna get to heaven's gate
Knowing we didn't give it one more try

There's just no way
There's just no way
I can live without you...in my life

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http://www.soundclick.com/bpficklen

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=420834

That's the link to your music page.

Bob,,,,,you seem to have a style in singing your lines,,,,phrasing. Might be considered wrong, but maybe it's your style that can allow for that. ????

Anyway,,,,I like this Bob Seager style song. With some fine touches and more involved production, it could be even better. Not sure if I would try to change the lyrics or how you phrase them. ???? Baffled! Maybe it's how it should be for you. They could have told Dylan to sing in pitch all the time too! See what I mean? I don't know whether what you do is a good thing or not!

Cool song either way.
John



[This message has been edited by dhsongs (edited 05-13-2006).]

John--Hey one thing I'm definitely good at is being baffling. Ask my wife....lol

You are absolutely right about phrasing...I like "There's just no way,I can live without you....in my life." That is a different way of putting it. "out of my life" did not sound right.

"Especially when it comes to night" I really like this line. But especially needs to be "specially" which I don't think is a word....not sure.

Hey John, "I don't know if what you do is a good thing or not"--I'm not sure myself. I just put myself and my songs out there....I hope that people like them. I'm thrilled when they do....disapointed if they don't...but how else can you improve, right. That's what we all are doing. This is a great site. I have met so many helpful people, yourself included. I have learned a lot myself, just from listening to other people's songs.

I have joined NSAI, which I believe will help me improve. I truly respect your opinions and I am thankful that you always take the time to give a good critique.

I'm also glad you like the tune. thanks. Have a good weekend. T-Bob

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Hey T-Bob.. Nice one, I have a few nits for ya.

I think the first two lines should be one line.
I packed everything I own in my car and started down the road.

And on the chorus don't add the line..in my life.. just do
There's just no way
There's just no way
I can live without you (twice, changing the melody at the end of the chorus maybe)

Louis--First let me say I feel honored. Why? Because this is the first time I have ever saw you write more than one line in a reply.

I really like both of those ideas you "brought to the table".

My wife kept telling me...."that in my life thing" blah blah.... I knew she was right. Well, she's always right.....you know what I mean... Only kidding.(she reads this stuff) I didn't know what to do to change it, one of those things you run into.

I think that's the point John was getting at, the phrasing. Hey, I need help sometimes, that's why I'm here.

Hey Louis--Thanks for listening, and the suggestions. T-Bob

T-Bob. I like this one. But, I do agree with others that your phrasing is a little off in spots. Almost sounds like you are still learning the song. Louis offered a couple of good ideas. I think the changes he's suggested might really help bring this one together. Give 'em a whirl, and let's see (hear) where it goes!
- Jay

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Jay-Thanks. I agree. I'll be re-doing it, down the road. I kinda wanted to get some feedback on it.

Sometimes you know, some things are just not right but you're not sure where or how it's not right. I like this song, too.

Again, thanks for listening. T-Bob





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Hi Bob
First of all, you know I dig your vocal`s perfomance.Now, country style really don`t fit your vocal register IMHO!!! Musically the song dosent sound country to me.
At best a hybrid I get confused because of your great voice!!!
Keep up the good work!!!!
All the best
Jan Petter

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T-Bob,

Wow a whole paragraph from Louie. I'd do it, seems he put a lot of thought into the reply. Good song I like the way you are experimenting with chord structure. Needs a little something...have to listen some more, I heard a chord change that might be cool, but I can't quite function. Set in at a biker bar last night for a few songs and didn't get beat-up.
tom

Hey, Bob -

Gee, as I said last night in my e-mail I really like this song. Maybe the "in my life" line could be left out.... Can't help it - I just really like it. Sorry, I don't have anything helpful to say about it; maybe I don't know enough or have poor hearing, but once again I like it!

Clint

Hey Jan--It's really good to hear from you. Thanks for your kindness.

I love country music....but I can't sing country. I like the hybrid tag. Most country is pop music now. The old traditional country is hard to find.

Hope you are doing well. Bob

Tom--Glad you are back. Love your humor and wit.

Man I'm shocked to get all those lines from Louis, I may print it off and frame it.

Every song I have needs something.........

That biker "gig" must have been something...Did you wear a black leather jacket......ride over there on your Harley?

Hey Tom, take care...I'd wish you Happy Mother's day but you'd take it wrong. LOL

Clint--I can't help it either...I like that part....I tried to do it the other way...I fouled it all up....Louis is probably right about it. He gave me two good suggestions...One of which I'll definitely use.

Hey man I'm thrilled that you listen. You don't always have to say something. Good job works for me (or bad job), especially when you know the person is sincere. Like yourself.

You and your wife have a nice day tommorrow.
My "girl" is due home tommorrow afternoon from Texas. I missed her. She has only been gone 3 days........Bob

Boy Howdy Terribob!

First things first. Wow! really appreciate the depth of your arrangements, From last November, you just keep getting better.

Who on da bass?

Solid guitar work.

Some O deez boyz here on dis bored, dont triciatate good country music, let alone dah bluuze. Dats otay!

Having cut my teeth on Hank and Lefty, I can say you got it going on.

Let me point out something. The better you get, the more critical your BUD's get about what you're doing, much of the time.

It's only natural, they have to look harder to try and help. And I have found their advice to be very strong!

I could tell you a million things that would help, but I love your voice too much. I am just drawn in.

You have to be the best campfire singer in the bunch of us, because I know when you finished your marhsmallow and picked up your guitfiddle, Doze Peeple wood start shuttin up and listnen, Just like me!


MOre later

Much Blessings from #1 fan!


Johnboy


PS Spell check, it dont werk on doze country wurds!

Johnboy--Dude you really make me laugh.....I can't wait until my wife can read this post of yours.

Hey, I ain't real old, 57 years old. I feel like I'm doing pretty darn good. Hell Kenny Rodgers 67 years old. I still got a chance. He had a top 10 song recently.

I know......some of these songs I put out here are not up to par with the big boys......Trust me JohnBoy I have a few in the "hip" pocket that may ending up surprising a few folks.

I guess people don't understand that writing a hit song or even a song that gets a "cut" with the big boys is at best a longshot. Well I'm here to tell you I'm and old horse player. Those longshots can pay big if your lucky. Luck is involved, don't think it isn't.

The bass on this song is played by Mr. Yamaha, japenese guy......Man he can play that country stuff. It's easy for him, he just pushes a few buttons.lol

I also will say, I love being on JPF. I have met some of the most genuine nice people. You included. I do wish I could go back a few years.........But it's never to late........hopefully. Can't look back.

I think I told you I'm a yankee(damned yankee) who has lived in Georgia for almost 30 years or so I reckon. (I knew you would like I reckon) I'm married to a Georgia girl. A sweet one. You were goofing around about the words. My father-in-law is probably the biggest redneck this side of the Mississippi he could relate to that terminology you were using.

I'm still laughing.......Hey if music goes bust for you, try comedy. You need to hook up with Tomtimeless, you both "crack" me up.

Hey man, I got carried away........Thanks a million for your kindness. You are a cool guy. Your friend, Bob

T-Bob,

I liked this one.. you played and put this together very well.
Beileve it or not the prasing didn't bother me to much. You pulled it off when it sounded like you may not. I think he guys are right a few fixes here & there.. Some quick fixes on the lyric will smooth out the phrasing to..

"We've had our disagreements
Wev've had our fair share of fights" etc..

nIce vocal of course but most impressive amount of work.. you keep popping up with tunes like every other day. Man! I'm jealous I' been trying to finish this new song for I dont know about 8 months now.

Dennis left a message for me tonight. he loved the Ricky Nelson song.. I'm so glad I also sang backup for him on it. I realized in the last minute the song needed back ups.
I like Dennis a real lot I even got outside players to come in this song with me so I could produce it better. We are gonna have one hell of a CD when we are finished.

All the Best!
Sub

Sub(Mike)--Hey thanks for the compliments. Always good to hear your take on things. "Specially" when you like it. lol

No need to be jealous the ones you come up with blow mine all to pieces. But if I lived by you and I could hang out over there on the Island with you. I'd give you a run for the money.......with your help of course. lol

Out of all the songs I write (attempt to write) I have probably 4 or 5 that I think are not bad. I have a couple of new ones that I'm excited about....will see how they pan out.

I have told you before, I'm going to take the credit though, I'm glad Dennis got hooked up with you. He has a lot of talent, that he hasn't even "tapped" yet. He's a good kid. I'm blessed to have all good kids.

I haven't heard the final version, yet. Steve called me last night and said that Dennis said "the Ricky Nelson thing came out awesome, Sub did a wonderful job". I heard Dennis do it originally just acoustic....it sounded like a winner. I really think he should try to get this released as a song for right now....It's better than Ricky's version(IMHO), so with your production it's probably "over the top"...awesome. I'll drop you an e-mail when I hear it.

I really hope this CD thing will be a good opportunity for a lot of exposure.

Hey Mike, thanks friend. Hope you are feeling ok, also. T-Bob

Man, I really like this Terribob! Your voice ain't quite Country - kind'of in between - but I likes it!

This verse could use a little rewrite I think cause lines one and two are saying the same thing pretty much:

We've had our disagreements
We've had our little fights
I can't stand the thought of missing you
Especially when it comes to night



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Rebecca

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Relating to the rewriting of lyrics --"Son, it ain't done until its cut--and then it ain't DONE 'til its a hit"
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Rebecca--Thanks a bunch, appreciate it.

You are right, Sub touched on it also.

I thought of replacing "we had our little fights" with

We've had our diagreements
Never one of us...always right
I can't stand the thought of missing you
Especially when it comes to night

That might work....... Pass along any suggestions. Thanks again. T-Bob






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Hey, T-Bob. I enjoyed the listen. Nice melody and flow. I can understand where the other comments are coming from, as I had a bit of the same problem with SWEET TEA AND BISCUITS. Here's my small suggestion....I heard this as I was listening: in the chorus:
THERE'S JUST NO WAY...
THERE'S JUST NO WAY....
THERE'S JUST NO WAY I CAN LIVE...WITHOUT YOU
John

John--Thanks for the suggestion. I have recieved a lot of good ones, including yours. Thank you very much for listening. I appreciate it.

Love your "Sweet tea and Biscuits". T-Bob

Suggestion for your consideration:

We've had our share of disagreements
Neither wanted to admit the other might be right
But I can't stand the thought of being without you
And wondering where you are in the dark of night



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Rebecca

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Relating to the rewriting of lyrics --"Son, it ain't done until its cut--and then it ain't DONE 'til its a hit"
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Hi Terribob,

Hi Man, we have similar backgrounds, I also started off in bands in the sixty's, good to hear you seem to be still enjoying life.

The old Sound Click is ideal, we can go in and listen quickly on Low Fi, yes there is quality loss but it's the melody we want to listen to, plus of course the chords.

I like the tempo, it starts off well, but you need to work on that chorous, like others have said.

If you could use chords in that chorous that have not been heard in the verse, (not all just some new ones) it would stand out better. the stab phrases you use in the chorous as opposed to what
is going on in the verses, works well.
three note phrases four note phrases , but
start chorus phrases on different beats than used in the vereses that would give you contrast.
What makes a good chorus can sometimes be the opposite of what is heard earlier in the verses , yes a bit of pitch problem, as someone else said you sound as though you are still learning the song in parts. but that's okay we all do that.

Keep at it Man, and Best Wishes from Ben
at P.J.Xanadu Music Publishing.


P.s. Let me know if you re write and re record it, because I would like to hear any further progress on this song

For example if you started your chorous on anticipation of the second beat like this example
(2)There's (3) Just (4)No (1) Way-------234 / 1 (And Repeat)



[This message has been edited by BEN (edited 05-15-2006).]

Rebecca--Thanks for the suggestions. I really like the last two lines of this verse of mine. They are simple lines but very effective, to me. The first two lines I agree the similarity is too close. I also think that the first two lines are actually one. If that makes sense.

I like the flow I have going there in that verse, so I don't want to change that. I haven't fooled with this song too much, so I'll put it in the "has possibilities section"

Appreciate you taking the time. Thanks for listening. T-Bob

Bob,

You know I really like your phrasing. It's certainly an interesting angle in country. This one stills sounds like you're hammering out where you're going to put some of the lyrics, rhythmically.

Lyrically, I really like the road imagery, gives this song a bit more bite. The chorus, as other have said, is great melodically, but probably needs some fine tuning lyrically.

Overall, your voice really fits nicely in a little more syncopated style - jazz, r&b. There's just so much soul in it.

I'm a little late so alot of good comments have already been made. We can talk if you want to work on this one a little.

Jay

Ben--Thank you for listening and your critique, I truly appreciate it.

I had a lot of fun in the 60's with the "garageband" we had going. It all ended to soon. Back then we all wanted to be a "Beatle". Heck, still do. I'm sure you can relate to that statement.

I'm a fortunate guy to have a good life going. I feel blessed, and I truly try to live life to the fullest. I love music. I have a wonderful family and wife. What more could you ask?

Anyway, I really hadn't put a lot into this song. I do like this song. I probably will record it again. I've have recieved a lot of good suggestions, including yours which I'll play with and see how it works out.

I have recently joined NSAI. I plan on using them to help me get better and learn more about this "craft" of songwriting. I do enjoy it so.

Thanks again. terribob

Jay--Thanks. This song is more of a "pop goes the country" thing.

I'm hammerin' on everything..........lol Melodically I agree....I get lost in that sometimes and forget about the lyrics....I like this song....it has a good feel to me.

Hey I'm going to get to work on the "gem" we've got going. I have listened to what you sent me quite a few times.....it's workin'.......Thanks, Bob

Hey Bob:

I like this one. Nice delivery and your songwriting skills are really improving.

My only nit: I'd change "We're gonna straighten things out" to something else so that the last word rhymes with "try".

See ya
Scott

Scott- Thanks. I didn't worry to much about the ryhme in this verse. I like the words in it so I just said....heck with it. (the rebel in me)

Thanks for the comments. I appreciate it. I hope you are doing well. When are we going to hear a new one from you?

Have a good day. Bob

Hi T-Bob,

Nice work! This one sounds like a "hit" to me.
The "hook" (title) is real good, and your playing and singing is too.

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Peace, Ed
http://www.soundclick.com/edbilleaud

Ed--Are you free to be my manager? Thanks a bunch. I really like what you do also...no kidding. T-Bob

Hey Bob,

I’m diggin it!

“In my life” is a very powerful line used in just the right place!

This song just seems to flow like a river.

Thanks for the listen Bob!

Accel

Accel--Thanks man. Appreciate it. I will get back to you on your song and the chorus thing.

Thanks for listening. Your support is truly appreciated. T-Bob

Hey T-Bob!

I like this a lot, it kinda had a Eagles "Peaceful Easy Feelin'" vibe to it.....would love to hear some big harmonies,Eagles style added to this. Might take it over the top? In any case, very nice!

Rob

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I used to be indecisive, now I'm not sure... My Songs

RJC--Thank You.........that's very kind. Glad you liked it. You have some good "stuff" yourself........thanks for listening...T-Bob





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Hey Bob,

Very relaxing to listen to.
Soothing !
Keep up the good work.
Sounds like a mixture of..(Bob Seger/Eagles)

Have a good day.

Calvin


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/calvinstewart

Calvin--Thanks...Appreciate the kindness...I'm like you, working hard...still hanging on to the "Dream".

Hey that may be a good song start....lol

I like the last line of your bio--"Be nice to somebdy".....Thanks again....terribob

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Hey Bob,

Very relaxing to listen to.
Soothing !
Keep up the good work.
Sounds like a mixture of..(Bob Seger/Eagles)

Have a good day.

Calvin


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/calvinstewart

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