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by Gary E. Andrews - 05/01/24 01:05 PM
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Hi folks,
Here's a hypothetical question:
Suppost writer A takes a song to a new collaborater for his/her input.
Suppose the two don't gel at all, but the new collaborator did give some input at the time, which was not used. They part ways on a friendly basis.
If that song ever becomes a commercial property, does the collaborator have any rights to it, merely from having participated?
have a good one
Peter Taos NM
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This sounds like what the Seinfeld show was based on......"Nothing".
Participation, but with nothing from that participation being used says everything! Nothing used,,,,,nothing owed. It was "try and see" only. They tried, you saw, and said "no thanks, I hear nothing I can use. I like the song the way it is". So,,,,,,,they get nothing, for adding nothing to the final something!
John
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Hi, I agree with the above comments. I have gone through this "hypothetical situation" a few times, and have come away feeling like I will never collaborate with anyone again....somebody always ends up getting hurt feelings. However, if you treat collaborating as a BUSINESS (which it is), the terms should be in writing. I have found the following form to be of great help. Also, here is a link to a great site for answering these types of questions: http://www.garyschuster.com/sp/collaboration.html Here is an agreement for a situation where the song just isn't getting anywhere and the composer and lyricist want to take back their respective contributions to try again elsewhere. Basically, this dissolves the song. DISSOLUTION AGREEMENT Agreement dated ----------------------, between Jane and Joe: Jane has written the lyrics, and Joe has written the music, to a musical composition entitled "Song", registered with the U.S. Copyright Office on January 1, 1995, and assigned registration number PAu 12345 (the "Composition"). Jane and Joe hereby agree to dissolve the Composition and to take back full ownership of their respective contributions to the Composition. Specifically, after this date, Jane shall own one hundred (100%) percent of the lyrics of the Composition, including the title of the Composition, and the worldwide copyrights therein, and any and all extensions and renewals thereof, and Joe shall no have interest therein whatsoever; and Joe shall own one hundred (100%) percent of the music of the Composition, and the worldwide copyrights therein, and any and all extensions and renewals thereof, and Jane shall have no interest therein whatsoever. Each party shall have the right to freely use, assign, sell, license, or otherwise dispose of his or her respective contribution without any obligation to the other. Each party hereby releases the other party from any and all obligation or liability with respect to the contribution of such party. All prior agreements or understandings between the parties with respect to the Composition are hereby terminated and/or superseded. hope this helps a little, Bluelitenin [This message has been edited by bluelitenin (edited 11-10-2002).]
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