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Hey All,

For anyone who hasn't seen this through musicdealers.com , it's time for any old fossils out there to get your gear out, and do a remake......



It's time to rock!

cheers, niteshift

Sorry. Wouldja run that by me one more time? It SOUNDS like those Publishers want to license the songs to new Artists. So who's payin' the bill?

Hey Ray,

I'm sorry, I don't follow....

The publisher holds the right to the copyright, right ?

They want new masters, which they can exploit in any number of ways.

If you you own the masters to the recording, you get the payday.

I don't get "Who's paying the bill ?". *shrugs*

cheers, niteshift

niteshift,
As the post reads I can't see what musicdealers is getting out of it or anyone except maybe the Publisher who has a new track of an old song. Maybe someone can give better information. I don't get it.

Ah geez Ray, have you fallen asleep , you old geezer ? ( kidding )

The publisher, who controls the rights to the song, is allowing you to recoed it, and submit your recording, through Music Dealers.

If it's any good, they'll flog it around town, perhaps re-release it, sell it for advertising, put it in corporate videos etc, or whatever, to flog the old dead horse, and extract as much money out of it as they can get. And they get the PRO royalties on top of it.

As the owner of the recording, you get the lions share of the take, without first having to pay the mechanicals or do the paperwork or the legwork.

Works for me.

cheers, niteshift

More info........... the publisher is....

SONGS OF UNIVERSAL INC
CAE/IPI #: 353271280
Phone: (310) 235-4700
Fax: (310) 235-4900
Contact:
2100 COLORADO AVE
SANTA MONICA, CA 90404
http://www.umusic.com

Song has been recorded by ( amongst others ).......

BORN TO BE WILD
BMI Work #140556

Publishers Current Affiliation CAE/IPI #
SONGS OF UNIVERSAL INC BMI 353271280
Additional Non-BMI Publishers
Artists
BLUE OYSTER CULT
CULT
HAMPTON STRING QUARTET
INXS
JOHN KAY AND STEPPENWOLF
RIOT
STEPPENWOLF
TIMBUK 3
VENTURES
ZODIAC MINDWARP AND THE LOVE REACTION

Now....... you can record the song yourself, pay the mechanicals, and get nowhere, or record it, submit it, and still get nowhere........

No, no, no..... I mean it seems like a good deal, if you know how to revamp a song, and why not ? No submission fee.

cheers, niteshift

Well the DOW is down again today but Australia makes good Wine. For you non-Wine Lovers, Forget it!

They are just different versions of songs. Happens all the time. About 12 years ago there were a bunch of country artists that did versions of the Eagles songs. This sort of thing is done a good bit, they don't have to pay the higher rates for the original artists. There used to be an entire label, K Tell that sold lots of complilations of songs like this.

I actually did "Born to be Wild"and "Whiter Shade of Pale" in a bluegrass style, on a Brazillian destined CD about 10 years ago. Another way to get your abilities and name out there.

MAB

Hey Ray,

Good wine yes, but New Zealand wine is even better !

Hey Marc, yep I remember those K-tel records. They did cheezy blanket advertising, and sold a bucket load of them. They even made the Top 10 album charts.

Maybe the publishers are running out of ideas how to squueze the money from the old catalogues, and are rehashing old ideas.

What goes around comes around.........

cheers, niteshift

Well,
You CAN Google Little Ole Wine Drinker Me. Recorded by Charlie Walker and Covered by Dean Martin. Yeah, New Zealand also makes good Wine.

I just want to add to the thread drift by saying that there are actually some really good wines from here in Indiana, too. (I'm not just talking about the six gallon carboy of apple wine in my basement waiting to be bottled.)

Hey Kevin,

I'll second your thread drift, by saying that as a songwriter, you gotta be at the bottom of the barrel with your "Cheap Wine and a Three Day Growth " as said by Australia's premiere rocker Jimmy Barnes and the boys from Cold Chisel in 1980....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFKxbr4_-Vc&feature=related

Then, 30 yrs later, the same lads performing the un-offocial Australian national anthem, "Khe San" a song written in the same time period for our Nam Vets......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfDI2ZjXwK8&feature=related

A bit of a promo for Jimmy here, who has a new album comming out next week. Go the retro !

cheers, niteshift

PS - for the lyricists, and anyone else who wishes to write through personal experience...... and for those who can't make out the vocal take.....

Khe San - (c) Don Walker


I left my heart to the sappers round Khe Sanh
And my soul was sold with my cigarettes to the blackmarket man
I've had the Vietnam cold turkey
From the ocean to the Silver City
And it's only other vets could understand

About the long forgotten dockside guarantees
How there were no V-dayheroes in 1973
How we sailed into Sydney Harbour
Saw an old friend but couldn't kiss her
She was lined, and I was home to the lucky land

And she was like so many more from that time on
Their lives were all so empty, till they found their chosen one
And their legs were often open
But their minds were always closed
And their hearts were held in fast suburban chains
And the legal pads were yellow, hours long, paypacket lean
And the telex writers clattered where the gunships once had been
But the car parks made me jumpy
And I never stopped the dreams
Or the growing need for speed and novacaine

So I worked across the country end to end
Tried to find a place to settle down, where my mixed up life could mend
Held a job on an oil-rig
Flying choppers when I could
But the nightlife nearly drove me round the bend

And I've travelled round the world from year to year
And each one found me aimless, one more year the more for wear
And I've been back to South East Asia
But the answer sure ain't there
But I'm drifting north, to check things out again

You know the last plane out of Sydney's almost gone
Only seven flying hours, and I'll be landing in Hong Kong
There ain't nothing like the kisses
From a jaded Chinese princess
I'm gonna hit some Hong Kong mattress all night long

Well the last plane out of Sydney's almost gone
Yeah the last plane out of Sydney's almost gone
And it's really got me worried
I'm goin' nowhere and I'm in a hurry
And the last plane out of Sydney's almost gone

My account at MusicDealers got closed because I didn't submitted anything.

I like these covers requests, though. It's fun to fiddle around with.. when is the deadline?

Hey Magne,

I don't know the deadline mate, but it looks like it's going to be an ongoing programme. really good for those folks that like doing covers, and by the way are damn good at them.

Just another outlet for creativity, as I see it, and if you're being creative doing covers, and you're damn good at it ( they're looking for finished broadcast quality here ) then go for it.

cheers, nitshift

Covers are kind of easy, as you don't have to write the song. Everything is there, so you can give it all to performance..

'Good' is subjective, but in the market for production music, 'right' means good.

I make a living performing covers so this is right up my boulevard......

Hey Magne....writing songs is the easy part.....it is the performance that sells a song. When performing covers you have to be at least as good as the people who performed it on the original record which was recorded in the best studios and used the best session musicians.....everyone knows the benchmark and standard required for a cover...... BUT when performing original material who knows what the benchmark?..... if you make a mistake nobody will pick up on it....LOL

WINE?..........Scotland makes the best whisky.....wine is ONLY for girls.