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Original Post (Thread Starter)
by couchgrouch
couchgrouch
...I spent a lot of time on my posts. Did it get moved?
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by JAPOV
JAPOV
I'm convinced that "aggressive moderation" to achieve "peaceful inclusiveness" is contrary to limitless creativity. But, unlimited permissiveness seems to invite chaos, not to mention juvenile revilement...
There's never a shortage of opinions among songwriters writing and performing for each other lol, as critiques are assumed and given.

However...
Blatant stalking, "trolling" activity is hard to tolerate. Criticism just for the sake of criticism, in an effort to derail normal and cooperative site activity, while perpetually condemning the usefulness and purpose of the forum to begin with... such an "harassing campaign" isn't just discouraging, it's willfully counterproductive and anti-collaborative.

A designated public forum is usually a mature self governing balance of respectful mutual interest, and polite tolerance of opinionated pedestrian tourism. Everyone, especially songwriters, has a right to their own unique voice, but sometimes that "entitlement" gets out of hand. It goes beyond a simple "clash of personalities".

Most people try to "think ahead" and choose their battles. But, when common sense is negated by lack of impulse control, the obvious motive is a singular personal investment in combative discourse despite harmonious community involvement. The argument becomes more important than participation.

So, in an environment where the activity of the collective is dependent upon honest and tolerant freedom of speech in order to facilitate the uncensored exchange of ideas, when does moderation among consenting adults become absolutely necessary?

I'm reminded of the irony of the music industry...
The target market is generally adolescents and young adults; But children aren't allowed in bars.
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by couchgrouch
couchgrouch
Bill, forget St. Augustine, and keep reading the Bible. I think that's solid advice.

I think my posts on the other topic were collateral damage in some other dispute. The moderator just deleted everything. That's not going to motivate people to devote time and energy to posting here.
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by JAPOV
JAPOV
Should have moved it all to...

***THE ARENA***

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by Brian Austin Whitney
Brian Austin Whitney
Originally Posted by couchgrouch
Well, it wasn't a topic I started. I think it was something about Trump. (Who I don't care about). But I posted quite a few times, some of it well researched, then the topic vanished.

I considered it a waste of my time, unless it was just moved somewhere else.

So who's post was it? And it must be someone you have spoken to directly to "know" it wasn't them, which is interesting as well. I moved some posts by 2 people. One is Japov. It isn't him. The other is an unregistered "anonymous" person who posted some stuff I had no choice but to remove, in one case entirely, from the site. Threats and expletives in titles don't remain viewable. If you know who this anonymous person is, please share by all means. If it is Japov, then he knows I moved some of his posts already. Nothing gets deleted except by trolls and bots. Registered people who I know do not get deleted, including people I don't agree or like. I leave plenty of nonsense here I don't agree with. We only really have one truly anonymous poster who hasn't been deleted from our site and everyone knows who that is. When they are contributing, great. But when they are just being a troll, and they do not have their true identity known by all to hold them responsible for their actions, then they do not get the benefit of the doubt when conflict arises, any more than a bot or spam troll would. When you are anonymous, that is the risk you take.

If you let me know which post or at least by who, (including if it was Japov) then I likely can find it. If it was on the post I had to delete, then it could be gone.

Brian
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