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What's going on with the weather lately? In the past few months we've had flooding in many parts of North America,Canada and other parts of the world,bad earthQuakes in a number of places, volcano eruptions,fires that destroy towns,tornados,winds like never before, hail the size of grapefruit. Is this caused by global warming or is it that the preacher is more right than wrong. Maybe this is just a prelude to tribulations. It would cause you to wonder, or it should.

More signs than I've ever seen.

Well,
The guy is at it again. NOW he says he was off by 5 months! Now he says it is October 21th. He is off all right, somewhere in the Twilight Zone.

In days of old it was called Pestilance or something like that. Today we just say bad weather. Same thing. I'm sure we will send some money to the Red Cross or Salvation Army to help the victims of the storms.

What we have is a Press that likes to dwell on the "Half-Empty" nature of the Same Glass that's been-around for Millions of Years.

That, & some Religious Nuts that firmly-believe in PT Barnum's "Sucker" Quotation.

My heart goes out to all those afflicted folks who chose to live in what's called "Tornado Alley". Since I live in a Hurricane-Prone State, I can't blame their "Stupidity" on anything--it's just Bad Luck & Where Ya Chose to Live/God has little to do with Earth's Climate & Seismological Processes/They've been set-in-motion ever since this Sphere Cooled-Off.

Interesting Factoid: A Tornado came into Washington DC same time as the Brits were burning the White House; Killed more invaders that WE did, & they vacated the city & went back home to England.

We might just owe Our Freedoms to an Unexpected Tornado. (Or maybe, yeah, "God Sent It"...) (So Much "Reality" is Subject to Interpretation...) But..it's only been the last Century-or-So that any accurate weather measurements have been kept...so no serious "Baseline" yet-exists.

Best Wishes & a Big Guy-Hug,
Stan

Yes Stan,

The news coverage today is unprecedented. We hear about it when there is a car accident in outer Mongolia or someone kills a mosquito in New Zealand. A few years ago, we had no inkling that these things were transpiring. And of course the news is sensationalized to the point where a nutcase like Harold is getting rich off the poor suckers who believe that crap.

The planet is changing all the time. What we are experiencing now is just a snapshot of 4 and half billion years worth of activity. Who is to say what is normal? For most of the earth’s existence there probably wasn’t any life. So if it were possible for someone to dip in and see how the planet was doing every 5 million years or so they would probably wonder where all these humans had suddenly come from! The tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunamis have been happening for millions of years more than we have been able to talk about or even comprehend them. So mother earth is doing what she’s always done.

Once again, gotta look to history. This planet has experienced much more upheaval than this. They recently discovered remnants of palm trees in hundreds of feet of ice at the poles. All of the plates of the earth used to be joined. They aren't now. Mountains, valleys, canyons, were caused by millions of years of constant upheaval. Wildfires used to burn half the acres of the West. Until the late 50's there were not people in the coastal areas of of the planet, because there was no air conditioning. So there is a pretty good chance it effects more people now.

For me, this is all pretty similar to growing up but we all seem to think there is something horribly wrong and we have never seen it in our lifetimes. Of course our lifetimes are not even a blip on the radar screens so that is not a very good gague to go from.

Right now most of the people I know over the age of 70 or 80 look at us and go "What are you wimps talking about? We lived through a worldwide depression, two world wars, and through it all were hurricaines, tornados, floods, the dust bowl, the stock market crash, etc." We get really upset when our Internet and cable goes out for a couple of hours.

And of course we see everything in real time 24 hours a day. I would always say, study history and you will find that it often has been much worse. But we weren't alive, so we didn't see it.

MAB

And,
To top it off the Okefonokee Swamp, about 50 miles west of here is burning, as it has for thousands of years if not millions of years. And for a while all of Texas was burning as the Mississippi is flooding. What else is new. Oh, I forgot, the World is ending, any day now.

Look for the Mississippi river to completely reverse course. Oops. That was the 1800's. Nevermind.

MAB

Mother Earth isn't happy with how it's being treated with so much disrespect. Humans are the villains. Arrogant creatures that think they're all important. Apathetic to the care and respect of Mother Earth.

We're only one of many lifeforms on Earth (lose the egos) - but the most destructive of all.

John

Hi Guys:

Pretty severe things happening on a broad front... all over the world. But it's not the end of the world.

Perhaps we should consult with Al Gore... the inventor of the internet... LOL!

My sympathies to all the victims and their families in Missouri, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma, Arkansas and even Texas... not to mention the Japanese, Chileans and Indonesians. Makes one appreciate all the good things we enjoy and be thankful for each and every pleasant day.

North and South poles are of course extremely cold. The Tropic, (equator zones) are extremely hot. All the oceans with varying temperatures add to those two major interactions of air and ground temperature between cold an hot air.

There's "then" the events of El Nino, which dumps heat from the Pacific Ocean into the atmosphere early in a given year. Then later, the ocean surfaces cool, (La Nina), contributing to heavy rainfall in many places. Storms too of course form, from the north/south air temperatures crashing into each other, causing those spinning clouds which can form tornadoes. Usual, Just the degree of amount and strength of those storms will vary year to year, decade to decade, century to century, depending on ALL the weather making factors at any particular time. Storms are usual and needed for the earth's constant adjusting for some balance of North and South Poles, and all else in between. People have grown into weather, not the other way around. Weather is not attacking us. We just happened to come about long after weather, (and after MUCH MORE EXTEME weather too), to then want to live in certain areas for all kinds of reasons. We are simply in the way of weather when not enjoying a stable high pressure system. Nasty, completely violent Weather has taken place for millions of years! (Long before us! Long before the one cell Amoeba)! Blame AIR and Energy!

The ongoing and contrast variation of those factors, along with the varying Sun's solar energy, and man's by products, ALL contribute to the varying weather, including extreme weather on spots directly affected by all in a concentrated area.

North and South America are bordered east and west with the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. (The US especially is always in harms way of many weather conditions), because of those two oceans, along with the ever changing affects of varying El Nino and La Nina.

Consider the many ice ages. Most of the US, (mid to north), was under 300 to 500 feet of ice! Then after some tens of thousands of years, global warming started, (again),,,which made for a resurgence of greenery,,,,Then (again, after many thousands of years if not MORE, Bam! More extreme weather to bring on another ice age! We are in the middle of both! We just have to deal with the "bad for us" storms.

This past 10,000 years have had us mostly ENJOY the most calmest of weather conditions, (a middle warm period of the earth), in spite of all the storms, earthquakes, volcanoes, hurricanes, etc. There will be a natural shift in weather conditions as time goes on for the reasons on solar energy affects, the shifting of all weather conditions of the oceans and north and south poles, etc, and now, whatever man's contribution will be added to all that.

You think "this" weather is bad? Wait for a few thousand years! You ain't seen nothing yet! People will have to be on some other planet by then,,,or adapt with whatever structures to live and work in or on ice. As global warming seems like it will continue, more likely is that we are heading for yet another ice age, given the history. This flux and peaks to the warmer and stormier span of time cold be just a hiccup before the real changes of cold come over most areas, if not all,,,,(again).

It's all about ALL the contributing factors that make weather: North and South Poles, The Tropic Zone, Oceans, The Sun, Man's Contributions. They ALL mix together in different ways all the time. All other thoughts about weather is not knowing or accepting those conditions. Because we may not know why or how of anything, should not have us then jump to other conclusions? Best to know the hows and whys if interested in anything. Becomes enlightening to find out things.

The safest place to live in the entire US property is Hawaii, despite the volcanoes and Tsunami. That is according to the weather scientists, who gathered all data and came to that conclusion. Not too hot or cold. And the Volcanoes are known, and mostly stayed away from. THAT choice is up to the home owners I guess. Choose wisely and enjoy "that nicest weather! All else is having to deal with the two ocean's and pole affects. We see how that can be for the ones in those direct hit areas. Sad. I would not live there. Bad enough in South Jersey with once in a while storm. BUT no where near as bad in the areas known for huge storms. Why live there then?