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#886670 - 03/20/11 02:40 PM Hands Flow by Toveco  
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Hi!
It's been a while since I posted something new on the JPF, but now comes a new song,
I exercise my injured hand after my motorcycle accident
Hope you like it.
Hand Flow
http://macjams.com/song/67114

Last edited by Tom Hellsten; 03/22/11 09:40 AM.

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#886683 - 03/20/11 04:24 PM Re: Hands Flow by Toveco [Re: Tom Hellsten]  
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Beautiful song. Do you plan to keep it instrumental? I like how you have the programmed drums in the background, not calling attention to themselves but adding a nice rhythmic touch. Good job.

#886753 - 03/21/11 12:24 AM Re: Hands Flow by Toveco [Re: finleysound]  
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Thanks finleysound. Happy you like it,
You have an impressive studio!
just a dream for me,
my studio consists of a PC with MixCrafs and a Korg K-25 and a Yamaha guitar only
My iMac is broken so I must use a PC :-(

You ask if I want to keep it instrumental?

No if someone want to put lyric and voice on it they welcome to do so :-)

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#886773 - 03/21/11 02:18 AM Re: Hands Flow by Toveco [Re: Tom Hellsten]  
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Thanks about the studio.

Maybe you'll find a taker on the forum! I think the song could work either way - with or without vocals.

Matt

#886784 - 03/21/11 04:23 AM Re: Hands Flow by Toveco [Re: finleysound]  
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finleysound can I ask you a pro question about my mix and Mastering on my song? is it OK? I see on your site you do mastering job, I just wonder if my is OK


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#886790 - 03/21/11 07:19 AM Re: Hands Flow by Toveco [Re: Tom Hellsten]  
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Hi Tom

I think it's beautiful Tom, thoroughly enjoyed my listen. smile

Hugs Michele

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#886867 - 03/21/11 02:51 PM Re: Hands Flow by Toveco [Re: Michele Howlett]  
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Hi Michele Thank you so much for take a listening and for your nice comment
I take a listening on your music...and Wow! you is a pro
Lovely music, I like a lot.
if I do something nice and need lyric and a singer
will you do?
Tom/

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#886871 - 03/21/11 03:09 PM Re: Hands Flow by Toveco [Re: Tom Hellsten]  
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Hi Tom,

This is very pretty, I do hope you get a lyric to go with it, it will make a beautiful song, though it's very nice like this. smile

Dottie

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#886952 - 03/21/11 09:57 PM Re: Hands Flow by Toveco [Re: Tom Hellsten]  
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Originally Posted by Tom Hellsten
finleysound can I ask you a pro question about my mix and Mastering on my song? is it OK? I see on your site you do mastering job, I just wonder if my is OK


Tom,

You are pretty close. Here are a couple of suggestions.

1) The bass needs to come down, at least a couple of dB. It is overpowering.
2) The main melody played by the electric piano (?) is uneven in volume. In places it is too loud, in other not loud enough. Inserting a compressor would help this. It also distorts in a couple of places which is a drag. This might take re-recording the part, or maybe you are just overloading the channel when mixing.
3) The whole mix could be a tad brighter. This is usually best addressed at the individual track level and a few EQ tweaks would be all that is needed. Just find the sweet spot for each instrument and boost those frequencies a little bit to brighten things up.
4) For your genre, I think the overall level is fine. You could compress a dB or two on the master buss to help meld the track together and make it sound more cohesive. Add a little limiting if you want the track to sound louder - but not too much!

I hope that helps. If you need more detailed explanations let me know.

Matt

#887014 - 03/22/11 02:06 AM Re: Hands Flow by Toveco [Re: finleysound]  
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finleysound THANKS a lot for your help I think I understand what you mean.

I try it out and see what happen :-)

Tom/


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#887018 - 03/22/11 04:05 AM Re: Hands Flow by Toveco [Re: finleysound]  
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Originally Posted by finleysound
Originally Posted by Tom Hellsten
finleysound can I ask you a pro question about my mix and Mastering on my song? is it OK? I see on your site you do mastering job, I just wonder if my is OK


Tom,

You are pretty close. Here are a couple of suggestions.

1) The bass needs to come down, at least a couple of dB. It is overpowering.
2) The main melody played by the electric piano (?) is uneven in volume. In places it is too loud, in other not loud enough. Inserting a compressor would help this. It also distorts in a couple of places which is a drag. This might take re-recording the part, or maybe you are just overloading the channel when mixing.
3) The whole mix could be a tad brighter. This is usually best addressed at the individual track level and a few EQ tweaks would be all that is needed. Just find the sweet spot for each instrument and boost those frequencies a little bit to brighten things up.
4) For your genre, I think the overall level is fine. You could compress a dB or two on the master buss to help meld the track together and make it sound more cohesive. Add a little limiting if you want the track to sound louder - but not too much!

I hope that helps. If you need more detailed explanations let me know.

Matt


Hi Matt
I am really happy that you want to help me be better.
I am an amateur who just make music for fun, but want to do it well anyway, I can not take notes and know what the notes called, I just follow my feeling for the melody
I try to do what you said and if you want you can listening to my try on this site. http://www.4shared.com/audio/o6ndjJxQ/Hand_Flow_new_remix.html
Thanks for your time and help
Tom



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#887025 - 03/22/11 04:28 AM Re: Hands Flow by Toveco [Re: Tom Hellsten]  
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Hey friend ... nice to see this being posted here!

Nice music...I like it a lot! Glad those fingers are moving better now...keep on going man!

Stan

#887034 - 03/22/11 06:15 AM Re: Hands Flow by Toveco [Re: Stan Loh]  
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Thanks Stan! you are always a great supporter


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#887038 - 03/22/11 07:43 AM Re: Hands Flow by Toveco [Re: Tom Hellsten]  
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#887040 - 03/22/11 07:55 AM Re: Hands Flow by Toveco [Re: Calvin]  
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Thanks Calvin! I take a listening on your song to, and found some really nice pieces I like a lot.
I really like #It Don't Take Long For A Poor Boy To Get Screwed#
Thanks for chow me your site.

Tom/

Last edited by Tom Hellsten; 03/22/11 07:57 AM.

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#887172 - 03/22/11 10:53 PM Re: Hands Flow by Toveco [Re: Tom Hellsten]  
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Tom,

Much improved! Good job. The difference is quite stunning.

Matt

#887272 - 03/23/11 09:18 AM Re: Hands Flow by Toveco [Re: finleysound]  
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Thanks Matt Now I think I understand the mixing and mastering a bit more.


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#887848 - 03/25/11 10:41 AM Re: Hands Flow by Toveco [Re: Tom Hellsten]  
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Nice work on this one, Tom
A beautiful sound scape.
I think you did a fine job with the mix, as well.
I'm sure someone will put lyrics to it.
A lot of folks sing but don't play... maybe you can put it up on a collaboration board.
Sounds good as it is.







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