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Hey guys, here's another one that I'd written, Colin has put beautiful music to. words by- me music and vocal-Colin Ward www.soundclick.com/carolinewroteitBetween a Hard Place and You © 2008 Caroline Holder/Colin Ward I’ve been going down this road For a long time it seems Chasing neon rainbows That disappear, with my dreams You’ve been waiting on me I appreciate what you do But you said you’re tired of this life, Settling down is long overdue But I can feel it coming, it’ll be my turn soon Baby, don’t leave me caught Between a Hard Place and You C I know you think there are times I get caught up in my own mind I forget to include you, and I don’t even try But this is all for us, I’m trying to build a life for two Don’t give up on me yet, this is just something I’ve gotta do Baby please don’t leave me caught Between a Hard Place and You I’m still working my 40 hours Like I promised I would And still trying to get noticed And change our lives for good You’ll see the rewards and all our dreams come true Baby, don’t leave me caught Between a Hard Place and You C-repeat I stand up here every night and give it all I’ve got But none of this means a thing if we untie that knot C-Repeat Tag Don’t give up on me yet, this is just something I’ve gotta do Baby please don’t leave me caught Between a Hard Place and You Baby please don’t leave me caught Between a Hard Place and You © 2008 Caroline Holder (903) 934-8419 (903) 930-0560 hx3music@yahoo.com , holder@shreve.net www.myspace.com/carolinewroteitPlease, let us know what you think...appreciate it! Oh, yeah, one day I'll learn the direct link thingy, but for now, this is the best I can do. Sorry!
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We'd be interested in some feedback.......here are my questions.
Do you like the hook/lyrics?
Does the music fit or is it too ..... ?
Anything else regarding production, vocals, genre, whatever else.
Thanks,
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Hi Colin and Caroline!!!...I think it's a good hook!! gal...You are coming up with some great ones!! Caroline ..I think you have a nice vibe and melody going on Colin!!.....and it's very pretty!!...... If I were to nit it...I'd say go back and take a look at the chorus...Part of me thinks the length of it...and famliarity of rhythms holds it back a bit. I will listen again....cause I could be off base here..... It WAS a pleasant first listen...and I was able to remember a lot of the song....minutes later. Very best to you.... Kaley
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All the best 2 you and Caroline
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Hi Caroline and Colin,
This could be really great! I loved the feel of it, listened 3 times in a row.
At first listen I felt there was punctuation problems, but second and third I did not, so it was probably just me being unfamiliar with your singing style, As I can't think up an analysis to find any :-)
Also it took me a while to get the hookline, but I finally did - so I guess I'm not stupid :-)
One thing did put me off, and that was the harmony in the bridge. Of course it should stand out, but I felt it was too dark sounding in relation to the lyric, and did not really support the phrase "I stand up here every night and give it all I’ve got". It sort of made me stop listening to the rest of the song fom there. So I basically feel you should reharmonize the bridge.
Loved the choir patch you had going in the background for this display.
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Now see guys, that just goes to show you, pro crits are in fact, one persons opinion!
This is a condensed version of the crits I got (same critic, btw)
Between a Hard Place.... This song was written, rewritten, and written again, and this version, got a standing O (close as I can describe without posting the actual crit) and I was told, "very commercial, get music to this now, this IS the one, yada, yada, yada!
Every Word... Well, I got told to "toss it in the trash, start over, OMG this is sooooo poorly written, nothing new, no new way of saying it, etc.You're beating a dead horse here"
Well, I happen to like both songs, wasn't tossing anything, probably never will. There's a little lesson in crits though, you all like one and it's the one that would have gotten lit up had it been in front of this person, and this one, well, not so much, but this one was "the one!!" LOL Just goes to show you, you have to follow your own feelings, both crits were lyrical alone, but imo, if you can't feel the lyric, music isn't gonna make it better.
OK, Kaley, Thanks for listening, the chorus sounds a bit long, I need to talk with Colin and see what he feels could help. Appreciate it.!!
Randy, Shame! Smudging my art with you're opinions, who asked you? LOL KIDDING!!!! You make some valid points, it's amazing, this was written two years ago, Every Word, a few months ago, and this one got the best review I'd ever had by a pro. I'm floored, The same pro, shredded the other song, and many, many more, lol! But, it's all opinions, isn't it. I do agree, this does still need some work. Colin and I will be discussing the parts that need help. We both appreciate the honesty you've offered!
Hi Mag..
Thanks for listening, I'm glad you "got it", it's nt6o blatantly obvious, but not completely hidden either. I was hoping for the closer listening, that means that it did at least peak some interest. HA! Thanks for the input on the bridge, I'll go back and listen, I have a tendency to be so grateful that I when I finally get music for a lyric, that I don't listen as closely as I could. BUt Colin will have to make any calls in change, he's the man!!!
Thanks again y'all!
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Thanks for all the feedback......and to Randy, I would rather you just say it like it is. (sometimes I think I am too blunt on this forum!).
I will change or eliminate the harmony on the bridge.
Caroline and I will try and polish up the other bits. If anyone has any more specific comments on anything, we would appreciate hearing them.
Thanks again,
Colin
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Randy, Trust me here, no offense taken at all! I appreciate the honest feedback, especially when the reasons are well written out. You've got no need to worry about an advance apology. I've had some pretty harsh reviews, and what you've said, I thought was very nicely put.
I'm not writing to be mundane and repetitive, I hope to keep improving, being pat on the head won't help that happen. I'm not so deeply involved with what I write that I take anything personally, if I did, I'd have quit after my first song. (My husband snarled up his nose, said, it's a good thing you're not trying to make a living at that, LOL!!)
Anyway, gotta get the kids to school, thanks again and we hope you come back and check it out when we've done some improving.
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Hi Caroline & Colin,
This is a good write. I was looking at just a couple of things to cut so it would sing smoother. I would trim V2, last 2 lines to: "But you’re tired of this life Settling down is overdue" And for the lift, I guess I would only use the first line and save the hook/title for the end of the chorus. The chorus is long but how about this? "You think sometimes I'm caught up in my own mind I don't include you, don’t even try But this is for us, a life for two Don’t give up on me, it's something I’ve gotta do Baby please don’t leave me Between a Hard Place and You" The melody is good, suits it well, but I would try to raise the bridge a bit, so it stands out more from the rest. Just some thoughts.
Ricki
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The song is nice. We love the guitar coming in and out. The mix on the vocal could be improved(change or adjust reverb). The melody is good. Merry Christmas IJenNeh
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Ricki,
Thanks for the comments. We are polishing up the lyrics so will take your suggestions to heart.
IJenNeh,
Thanks for your comments too. Are you saying there is too much reverb on the vocal? I need to listen on different speakers etc. but haven't had a chance yet.
Merry Christmas!
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