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#474036 - 02/13/07 04:55 AM Outboard compressor or DAW  
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I am trying to decide if I need an outboard Vocal compressor or not. I do my compression in the software. Does outboard compression do a better job of it.
I do most of my studio vocal recording through a Shure KSM27 condenser mic.

Also, can instruments, like bass guitar be run through the compressor.


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#474167 - 02/13/07 04:37 PM Re: Outboard compressor or DAW [Re: Bill Robinson]  
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In answer to your question Bill,
So far my software compressors do not live up to my musical expectations. Most of what I have heard sounds squished. Call me Old School if you wish but there is no substitute for a real outboard compressor. The most musical ones are optical. For me the best compressor out there for the money is the Universal Audio LA-610 it's still the studio standard for most high end facilities. I myself have used it extensively for my Vocals it's what we call in the industry very musical. It also contains a pre-amp for mics thats worth it's weight in gold. The two can be purchased sperately or as one unit. If you have never used a pre-amp on your mike it will astound you as to how much of a difference it makes in the sound.
Tube Pre amps will warm up your sound so it's not so dry.. you really have to hear it to experiance the differance. I suggest you go to your local music store and try some out for yourself
Also you asked if insturments Like a bass guitar can be run thru a compressor the answer is a solid YES.. You can run the Bass hotter in the mix without overload or clipping issues hope this helps

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#474212 - 02/13/07 06:06 PM Re: Outboard compressor or DAW [Re: Larry Read]  
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Hi Larry
Thanks for the input. I have suspected a good compressor and pre-amp would be required to get the rich vocal sound required in High quality recordings.
I guess it's time to go shopping again. Ah well, one dollar in, three dollars out, Such is live in the studio


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#474276 - 02/13/07 10:04 PM Re: Outboard compressor or DAW [Re: Bill Robinson]  
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Hey Bill,
You may want to try an ART Studio V3 pre-amp. Under $100.00. It is a tube preamp and when combined with a BBE sonic maximizer delivers one of the best bass sounds I've ever used. I use both for recording and like them much. I heard about the ART on a post from Mike Dunbar. The BBE is around $100.00. I have the stomp box so I can use it live for guitar playing.
Dan

#474608 - 02/14/07 11:09 PM Re: Outboard compressor or DAW [Re: Direct Current]  
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Hi Bill,

Outboard compressors will serve at least these two functions:

1. Help prevent digital "overs" by reducing the louder peaks in the signal.
2. Color the sound somewhat - hopefully in a musical way.

I use compression on vocals especially, but compression on some bass parts also helps - depends on the style and the player's sound.

What's your budget? Preamps can be had for $100 or for $3000. Outboard compressors can also fall in that range.

I remember a thread by you a while ago where you were asking about PC configurations, etc. What did you end up using for your PC hardware and DAW software? Depending on the audio interface you have, different recommendations might apply.

For example some audio interfaces come with decent preamps and others don't. Some come with inserts where you can place a compressor and others don't; and some don't have any preamps, but are line-level only.



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