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LL,

I tried to arrange a press conference, but I just couldn't get it organized quickly enough. And I do admire the manner in which you so proudly but humbly accept this pinnacle of rhyming achievements. It was my pleasure to have bestowed it upon you. I am sure you will wear with the pride and enthusiasm it merits.

And, BTW, it is still my favorite of all the rhymes I have seen offered. Merry Chrsitmas, Lynn. Hope 2007 is your best ever.

Alan

Buzz,

Your last statement is so true...don't try to rhyme with orange! And yes, I agree as well, if it enhances the line and adds to the song overall, it's a good fit.

As far as "adorned" is concerned, I think it is a perfectly acceptable word usage. And I do not think it is too antiquated and is adequately conversational. It works fro me, at least.

Merry Christmas and hope you have a great New Year.

Alan

Alan, just wan't to let you know that I beat myself up the other night trying to find a rhyme for orange. Didn't get to sleep till 2AM. I tried compound words and two word rhymes. Nothing stuck to the wall.Orange sucks. I've got other rhymes to worry about. Orange can take a hike. I won't drink orange juice anymore. At least I can think of a rhyme for V8.

Ben Willis,
Stone'enge (with a brit accent , drop the aiche and all)
Pete
edit: CRUD! , I'll miss that green monstah...

Guy, I think your right. Stone-inge and orange would rhyme if it were in a song by Herman's Hermits. But I don't think Grandpa Jones or Uncle Dave Macon could get away with it.

Hi Alan,

Thanks for the input on "adorned." One never knows what kind feedback one will get when it comes down to opinion. IMO, if a word is used enough and/or one has a reasonable expectation that most people have been exposed to it enough in life, it should pass muster as being conversational.

Anyway, I'm sure I'll use orange in a lyric somewhere along the way but it most likely won't be used as a rhyming word.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours.

Van

Dennis,

All pretty good, although varnish and tarnish don't quite measure up to the others. Merry Christmas!

Alan

Eb,

Chattanooga and lose ya...now, I like that! That's what I call creative and and excellent fit! Looks like I'm gonna have to drag out anothert Gold Star! Merry Christmas.

Alan

Linda,

Hey, you're even prettier than I had imagined Ya know, tis avatar option is pretty nice. Those who choose to do so, as you did, can post with a picture so we can see what we all look like. But, for some of us, that may not be a wanted service for the community. I have noticed that since my wife has put my picture on display, we've had fewer critters in the house. At least it serves a purpose other than reminding me that I'm not as young as I used to be. I'll be 60 in March! Yikes!!!

Alan

Ben,

Stayed up almost all night, huh? Man, I admire your dedication...even if it ended in futility. So, to Hell with oranges, then!

Okay, so you can rhyme something to V8...how about 6 Cylinder? I know...nobody likes a smarta$$!

See ya next time. I do appreciate your sense of humor. Thanks!
Alan

Pete,

Agree with ya about missing that green "monstah"! Merry Christmas!

Alan

Okay Ben Willis ,
First , you tell us you want a one syllable word to rhyme with a two syllable word and you neglect to mention that you want to specify who's going to be singing them . What's going on here? Cough up the cookie Willis
Pete:)

Pete, was it the Hermans Hermits remark? Ok this is the last cookie im giving out. I,m keepin the rest. Willis

Thanks Ben,
oatmeal rasin , my fav too!
Ahlm Enery thee eighth aya am , Enery the eighth aya am aye am...,
Pete

Dang You, Ben!!!!

If I recall, you're the one who brought upthis Herman's Hermits stuff. I can't get that Henry The Eighth crap out of my mind. I've benn singing that freakin' song in my head since last night. As soon as I jumped in the shower this morning, yep, I'm humming "I'm Henry The VIIIth I am, Henry The VIIIth I am, I am. I got married to the widow next door, She's been married seven before.......". It's all your fault! Payback for the oranges, huh? Okay, I see how you are...can't let any insidious deed go unpunished!

Best to ya, amyway!

Alan

Alan, actually I mean't to say Rex Harrison but I couldn't remember his name at the time.So the next best British accent I could think of was Herman's Hermits. Did'nt mean to cause so much agony. Ben

Okay, Ben. Apology accepted. (Still singing that freakin' song in my head!) Have a good night!

Alan

I can't imagine how you could pronounce carnage to rhyme with orange.

However, I'm amazed that no one here has offered up grunge.

That's about as close as you can get.

Jody

Jody,

Thanks for the visit. And you're right...grunge is pretty doggone close. I think grunge and foreign are the closest so far. And, can't imagine anything getting any closer than either of those two. As usual, nice contribution to the thread. Have a great holiday!

Alan

I rhymed "torn" with "orange" once in a poem, just to show it could be done. Who was it that rhymed "purple" with "maple syrple"? Ha!

Gary, I think that was "Dang Me" by Roger Miller

LOL.
Do not try this at home folks.
Roger Miller was a professional:
They say roses are red and violets are purple
Sugar is sweet and so is maple surple
Well I'm the seventh out of seven sons
My pappy was a pistol
I'm a son of a gun.

Graham

Yep, Ben and Graham...that was Roger Miller. We are all familiar with his humo(u)rous songs, such as "Dang Me", "Can't Rollerskate In A Buffalo herd", etc. But, he wrote a lot of other serious songs that were really good ones...such as "Little Green Apples" and "Husbands And Wives". He also wrote the entire score for the Broadway production "Big River". there are a lot of good stories about him writing that score. Too bad he died as young as he did. He was a great talent. Best to all of ya!

Alan

When I was ten years old I had a Roger Miller 45 and knew every word of it. The kids at school thought I was crazy when I sang it. See if you remember these glorious rhymes.

My uncle used to love me but she died
a chicken aint' chicken till' it's licken' good fried
keep on the sunny side
my uncle used to love me but she died

Got a letter here this morning it was post marked Omaha
it was typed and neatly written offering me a better job
better job at higher wages expenses paid and a car
but I'm on tv here locally and I can't quit I'm a star

Ben,

Yep, I remember. Of the two you offered here, the second is my favorite. It is from his song "Kansas City Star"...a great song. Although somewhat silly on the surface, the lyrics tell a pretty good tale of of a person realizing who he is and what his life is all about.

If I recall correctly, the chorus goes something like this:

Kansas City Star, that's what I are
Yodle, odle latey, you ought to see my car
Drive a big ole Cadilac with wire wheels
And rhinestones on the spokes
I got credit down at the grovery store and my barber tells me jokes
I'm the number one attraction on every supermarket parking lot
I'm the king of Kansas City, No thanks Omaha, thanks a lot.

I think that's pretty close. Yeah, he was a good one, alright. I've heard Bill Anderson (Whispering Bill) tell outrageously funny stories about when he and Roger Miller shared an apartment in Nashville in the late 1950's. Bill, of course, is very shy, quiet and somewhat serious. Well, you can imagine how Roger exploited that! The band I was playing with back in the early 70's was on the same bill as Bill Anderson. Some of the stories he told had us laughing our butts off. Ah yes...those really, really good ole days! Fabulous memories, indeed! Best to ya, Ben,

Alan

Ya know, I have always tyhought that song is where Billy Joel may have got the idea for Piano Man from.
I have several Roger Miller LPs, so know his work pretty well.
He was the ace in, and after his time.
Graham

Tiz the thing to do in modern country

"I went sky diving"
"I went Rocky mount climbing"

I actually try for the near ones rather than the perfect...usually it's a combo of each...

tom

Graham,

Never thought about that, but you could be right...you often are!

Alan

Tom,

Yeah, I think you're right about using both. It would certainly reduce the likelihood of monotony in the rhymes. Plus, the imperfect rhymes often keep the lyric a little more conversational. Plus, they open up a lot more possibilities for telling your story.

Thanks for dropping in with your thoughts. Merry Christmas!

Alan

It depends on the effect I'm going for in the song. I agree with what's been said about near-rhymes making a song sound more conversational. I'm more likely to use near-rhyme or non-rhyme when the content of the song is more serious and I want to draw more attention to the story than the craft. I tend to use more perfect OR noticeable rhymes when I want to sound funny or clever, or the genre is more old-timey.

My weirdest rhymes are all in one song. It rhymes gothic with the following: topics, intoxic- (an enjambed line where the "ate" is in the next line), cathartic, misanthropic. It also rhymes parenthetically with peripetetically and contrarian with sesquipedalian.

Nancy,

Hi..and welcome to JPF! Your system seems logical to me. Of course, there are always those exceptions. Would lov e to see the lyrics to the song with those various rhymes you annotated. Sounds interesting!

Hope you enjoy your stay here at JPF...and hope you decided to hang around for a while. Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Alan

Alan, I think it was the first Farmaid concert. Roger Miller came out on stage and sang "King Of The Road". The audience sang along. That was shortly befor his death. What a show.

You are MORE than decent Alan, you're a gentleman and a scholar

Herbie,

You are much too kind. I will admit that I do strive to be a gentlemen 98% of the time. But, the scholarly part...that could be a discussion with varying points of view! But, I can concede to being reasonably intelligent. I sincerely and humbly thank you for your kind words and truly enjoy our friendship. You are one of the true class acts at JPF. Helen and I are really looking forward to getting together with you and Kim-Char in March. We also hope to have a chabce to say hello to Bob Young, as well.

Happy Channuka!

Alan (and Helen)

orange
our age

Tony,

Another good entry! Not bad! Hope you have a really great holiday.

Alan

Alan , you've had this thread going for two weeks now. Are we going for a record? I think it's cool. Ben

Ben,

One person can't reasonably keep a thread going by him or herself. So, either the punishment or the enjoyment (depending on how you see it) of this thread has plenty of people to blame!

Record? Heck, the only record I's really like to have is my lyric holding the #1 position on some music chart for longer than any other! Yeah...I could deal with that!

Glad you have enjoyed this thread. I have tried to pick topics that think would appeal to a broad spectrum of JPFers in my threads on this forum. There's nothing like getting everybody else's points of view to compare with your own. Well, at leasdt that's how it goes for me, anyway. Talk atcha later, I'm sure!

Alan

Alan, You just kicked me in the *** now I am inspired to find the PERFECT rhyme or scheme for orange. We will find it and forward it to Paul Mcartney or Paul Simon(One of those big shot guys) and say hey dude rhyme this!

Those guys are big because they can do alot of moving oo's. Most of their songs feature oos and aahs.In other words they give up words and start ooing and aahing. If I'm wrong someone tell me. Ben

Ben,

Inspiration often comes as a kick in the a$$! Makes me wonder why ihaven't found more inspiration in my life! Oh well...different subject for a different time! And, giess you know that the weight of the entire lyrical world is resting on shoulders as you seek to find the yet undiscovered. I wish you success in every step of the way!

And yeah, ooohhs and aahhhs can go a long way when it comes to filling in for lyrics in need. Good luck on your quest!

Alan

Ben,

just had an uncharacteristic wave of brain activity. This isn;t exact, but how does this rate for pretty close....

I take a bite from the succulent orange
As through the jungle I valiantly forage

Close?

Man thats pushin it. can you imagine a sustained grimace?Well that's what my face looks like after reading that.I'll stick with the oos and aahs thank you.Merry Christmas Alan from Ben.

Hey Alan, Lets talk about Tulsa, I lived there for five years. E-mail me Ben.