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Besides Marty, has to be the biggest detriment to a somg site.
Its the same everywhere.
Just not any serious songwriters around any more.
Check please!.
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Try to be an adult Dominick. As I stated, I am pulling back from this site and am going to spend more time at a site that banned you, where you, and pointless, unprovoked, needling posts such as this one, are not allowed to happen.
Whatever you consider "serious songwriting" to be, is your prerogative to display at this site with no interference from me...if you will just leave me be.
I do not plan on leaving any future comments on any songs that you do.
Besides Marty, has to be the biggest detriment to a somg site.
Its the same everywhere.
Just not any serious songwriters around any more.
Check please!.
I
Try to be an adult Dominick. As I stated, I am pulling back from this site and am going to spend more time at a site that banned you, where you and posts such as this pointless post are not allowed to happen.
Whatever you consider "serious songwriting" to be, is your prerogative to display at this site with no interference from me...if you will just leave me be.
I do not plan on leaving any future comments on any songs that you do.
Hey doucshenag, I'm not banned anywhere.
Its the same everywhere, cliques, you got guys seeing a female, getting a boner, and suddenly part of the songwriting team.
These guys must have never had girlfriends
And typical you, announcing where yiur going.
Say wut, is a garbage song, no matter where you place it.
There's alot of garbage songs. Only difference is people who write garbage songs tend to affiliate with other garbage and form cliques.
Let's smash the computers Throw away the phones Reconnect with sunshine Air out our homes Teach girls to be women Raise boys to be men Make peace with creation And love to live again
I don't want more pills To make me feel better I don't need insurance I won't care when I'm dead I don't need excuses dancin'round in my head If I can't take it with me I'll leave it under my bed
'Cause my eyes may be surprised To see another sunrise
I don't want my bluejeans To color me a racist Or surgical transition I don't think that's wise I don't want more hatred blinding my weary eyes If you blame genetics Then white privilege is a lie
'Cause the skin that I'm in Is no inherent sin
Let's smash the computers...
I don't need AI To make me feel connected Google is the reason I've been so rejected I don't need technology to tell me how to vote I'll just go to church And ask the Holy Ghost
'Cause a salvation congregation Won't argue in heaven
I don't need a miracle To justify my faith I just need my Bible To keep me on the ground I don't need a congressman to classify my pronoun...
Let's smash the computers...
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME HERE... CANCEL CULTURE IS ALIVE AND WELL @JPF! YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DELETED...
a serious song writer , I might have to think about that for a few days. ok I thought about it , A serious song writers records it in a studio and dosen't worry about asholes calling his songs garbage. He doesn't call him self great , cuz he knows Billy Joel in around. Thats pretty bad Dom , saying all songs are garbage , Who are you Irving Berlin pushing buttons ?
Last edited by bennash; 01/10/2612:23 PM.
We’re all built from the same dust and dreams, Different roads, but the same means.
You asholes got banned , So I just pointed them over there for a better vibe. They won't fight with you pricks . But I will. Tony ashole one Your ashole 2
Last edited by bennash; 01/10/2605:50 PM.
We’re all built from the same dust and dreams, Different roads, but the same means.
You asholes got banned , So I just pointed them over there for a better vibe
and what a wonderous adventure it has been.
Ben, im not banned there, i exited myself as well as tsf, its not different than here, you will never get genuine feedback, good or bad, there, or here.
I personally see no point in it, "friends" challenge each other and support, they dont bs. Doesnt mean being mean either, thats an error in thinking.
And im aware that you have sent messages to people on other sites to warn them about me. You're a little kid, a sad one.
It wont take long before u realize it sucks there too
You asholes got banned , So I just pointed them over there for a better vibe
and what a wonderous adventure it has been.
Ben, im not banned there, i exited myself as well as tsf, its not different than here, you will never get genuine feedback, good or bad, there, or here.
I personally see no point in it, "friends" challenge each other and support, they dont bs. Doesnt mean being mean either, thats an error in thinking.
And im aware that you have sent messages to people on other sites to warn them about me. You're a little kid, a sad one.
It wont take long before u realize it sucks there too
Who muse , I don't talk to them about you , Sites alright . You left Owens site cuz your ashole , I never told them to ban you , you did that on your own. You went on a rage of personal attacks just like ashole Tony. You both make me look like Jesus compared to you guys. You both belong in a mental hospital with anger management
Last edited by bennash; 01/10/2606:24 PM.
We’re all built from the same dust and dreams, Different roads, but the same means.
You asholes got banned , So I just pointed them over there for a better vibe
and what a wonderous adventure it has been.
Ben, im not banned there, i exited myself as well as tsf, its not different than here, you will never get genuine feedback, good or bad, there, or here.
I personally see no point in it, "friends" challenge each other and support, they dont bs. Doesnt mean being mean either, thats an error in thinking.
And im aware that you have sent messages to people on other sites to warn them about me. You're a little kid, a sad one.
It wont take long before u realize it sucks there too
Who muse , I don't talk to them about you , Sites alright . You left Owens site cuz your ashole , I never told them to ban you , you did that on your own. You went on a rage of personal attacks just like ashole Tony
Ben, i suspect you collude through messages here. But i KNOW you did it on other site.
and you have everyboy on board here not replying, cause you have conspired and created a false narrative.
and not the only one. but its obvious where the good songs are, so nobody is bullshittin anyone
Nope , that was all you . it's obvious , I thought you said all songs are garbage except yours. I am a kid , You start going backwards about 65. it works pretty well since my wife is 36. I'm not sure who's raising who
Last edited by bennash; 01/10/2606:35 PM.
We’re all built from the same dust and dreams, Different roads, but the same means.
Who muse , I don't talk to them about you , Sites alright . You left Owens site cuz your ashole , I never told them to ban you , you did that on your own. You went on a rage of personal attacks just like ashole Tony. You both make me look like Jesus compared to you guys. You both belong in a mental hospital with anger management
Really!?
What's YOUR politically ambiguous and lawful "pronoun" these days, Frank!?
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME HERE... CANCEL CULTURE IS ALIVE AND WELL @JPF! YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DELETED...
Nope , that was all you . it's obvious , I thought you said all songs are garbage except yours. I am a kid , You start going backwards about 65
nowhere did i ever say all songs are garbage. False rhetortic again. Martys songs are garbage, i wouldnt hahve said garbage if he was a nice guy, id say they need work, are kinda weak, but the guy is a total tool who is frankly a stalker, trying to research me, im pretty sure the IRS knows me. Gurantee that.
Im not here to learn about your lives, im hear to share music, with like minded people.
But the lying to each other, while ignoring me and others, is silly. Ruins the site, im done with it.
WHY thats what songwriters do , share your lives , Really well maybe we can add that in a song. I don't give a shite , my life is an open book . Yeah I'm a killer lover , what a liar Elvis
There's alot of garbage songs. Only difference is people who write garbage songs tend to affiliate with other garbage and form cliques.
Do you memory loss ?
ok I'm bored back to Cartel on net flix , man their brutal
Last edited by bennash; 01/10/2606:44 PM.
We’re all built from the same dust and dreams, Different roads, but the same means.
Ben, im not banned there, i exited myself as well as tsf,
Oh yeah? Prove that up. Post a song. Either you or Tony. The reason that I joined there was because I understood you and Tony to be banned. Post a song along with the usual insult.
IF....you can post a song, I'll have to re-think interacting there. So far, it has been tranquil and courteous.
You trolls are still trying to feed off of your boogeyman. You just keep bringing me up.
I'll make it easier than that. I wrote a song called "Love Of My Life" for my 36th wedding anniversary, and posted it up over there. It's in the AI section. Log on and post a comment on the song thread condemning the song as garbage.
Either you or Tony...since neither of you all was banned. If you just decided to drop the site because the site didnt rise to your expectations, then nothing should prevent you from logging on and posting. EZPZ
BTW...what you wrote below is not based in fact and imo looks like a pathology. Imo...it is cruel, if not reprehensible that this is allowed to bleed out as a public spectacle on this site.
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
but the guy is a total tool who is frankly a stalker, trying to research me, im pretty sure the IRS knows me. Gurantee that.
Ben, im not banned there, i exited myself as well as tsf,
Oh yeah? Prove that up. Post a song. Either you or Tony. The reason that I joined there was because I understood you and Tony to be banned. Post a song along with the usual insult.
IF....you can post a song, I'll have to re-think interacting there. So far, it has been tranquil and courteous.
You trolls are still trying to feed off of your boogeyman. You just keep bringing me up.
And who told you, that you understood I'd be banned? If somebody is going to ban me, because yiu want me banned, that's a [naughty word removed] site, and it looks like it.
I am no longer registered, I told them to do it.
I prove nothing to you.
would simply need to register again, and if I really wanted to, be anonymous.
I really am exhausted with forums, but then fact that somebody o. Another site, told Marty, that he would ban me, is anti American, and look who the [naughty word removed] he is trusting, has he not seen Marty whine for a decade here?
It was Marty who whined his way to an ai forum here, now that's all he does.
would simply need to register again, and if I really wanted to, be anonymous.
That's your longstanding Modus Operandi regarding how you handle being banned from sites, but you can't disguise your toxicity. You will be found out easily. That clearly separates fact from fantasy and gives me reassurance that you can't post there. We accomplished that here.
You will go away for a couple of days Dom, but then continue to post here. You always do. SO does Tony. I'll leave yall to it.
I told you that I am pulling back from here and going somewhere that I am told that you cannot log into. That works for me. You can load up this site with songs that you think achieve your standards, with no interference from me. I'm not someone that you need to be concerned with.
Two days later...
Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
You will go away for a couple of days Dom, but then continue to post here. You always do. SO does Tony. I'll leave yall to it.
Marty, I see you're still here. When are you finally leaving? Or did I misunderstand something?
I told you that I am pulling back from here and going somewhere that I am told that you cannot log into. That works for me. You can load up this site with songs that you think achieve your standards, with no interference from me. I'm not someone that you need to be concerned with.
Two days later...
Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
You will go away for a couple of days Dom, but then continue to post here. You always do. SO does Tony. I'll leave yall to it.
Marty, I see you're still here. When are you finally leaving? Or did I misunderstand something?
Its all part of Martys love affair, with himself. He thinks people here look to him for insight, for leadership, for knowledge, when they all believe he is a cad. He's waiting for a curtain call, is what it is
Imagine the level of self importance one must have, to think that another website, should guarantee him, that I would nor be allowed on.
If I were that guy, my first question would be....
Why, to quote the who. Who THE [naughty word removed] are you?
Just a blabber mouth, persistent irritant, talentless hack.
He was kicked off toonsmith, for being a rude, obnoxious , intolerant prick, so you would have been able to recognize him easily.
He goes to muse, brings people he knows will lie to him like the brown nosing John V, and Ben,.
I can write that admin, and paste every dumb pointless, whining diatribe he ever said here, then he'd kick his old ass to the curb.
He wants to take Brian's members with him, which is not fair to Brian, who has put up with every ounce of bullshit he laid.
Actually Rob should head over to Muse to , it allows AI songs . You have a few old guys that balk at it . But not much . Like I mentioned numerous times . You need to build a Youtube channel on your songs and not rely on forums activities . it's obvious Brian does not care about this site or he would hired two moderators by now to control cat fights and insults. He might have health issues and he don't wanna deal with it. it be really a easy job . They see the cat fight or insult and it's erased .Some retired person could handle it . God knows everybody on these forums are old or getting there .
What you say about great serious songwritiers ?, they would not be on forums , their staff writers at Sony in the real music world , competing for that hit money .
Last edited by bennash; 01/11/2606:02 AM.
We’re all built from the same dust and dreams, Different roads, but the same means.
Sell a songwriting forum with 0 membership fee for 20 million ? Good luck with that. Songtown is a serious site , it'll cost you 75 a month for fees and to talk to publishers. people always want things for free. people are humble and kind when its free , Try that when money is involved
Last edited by bennash; 01/11/2608:45 AM.
We’re all built from the same dust and dreams, Different roads, but the same means.
Sell a songwriting forum with 0 membership fee for 20 million ? Good luck with that. Songtown is a serious site , it'll cost you 75 a month for fees and to talk to publishers. people always want things for free. people are humble and kind when its free , Try that when money is involved
Look up the word facetious.
But the problem has always been,no real music listener's. Evidently the peer to peer methid is done, still a need to connect artists with real people
Would have to get viewers through ads. Encourage them to vote, to pick tomorrow's stars. Some kind of incentive.
Let them use the power of their social media to create buzz for users on the site.
Users will pay a fee monthly or yearly.
To me, the invaluable thing is knowing what real people think of your mus8c
I told you that I am pulling back from here and going somewhere that I am told that you cannot log into. That works for me. You can load up this site with songs that you think achieve your standards, with no interference from me. I'm not someone that you need to be concerned with.
Two days later...
Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
You will go away for a couple of days Dom, but then continue to post here. You always do. SO does Tony. I'll leave yall to it.
Marty, I see you're still here. When are you finally leaving? Or did I misunderstand something?
That's easy Rob. A small dysfunctional group of two trolls and a twat (you), with a seeming fixation on me, create entire threads (such as this one) and lead it off bringing up my name and derogating me, and returning to do it again.
Thus the two-day gap.
Stop doing it and I wont show up....except to post an occasional song.
I truly dont want to engage with Tony, Dom or you. In your case, you strike me, as insidious and creepy.
EZPZ...leave me be. Don't come into these dysfunctional threads and pile on.
And if you join up at muse and start with the girlish snipes and gaslighting, I'll report you and show them this thread and others as a pattern. They appear to moderate dysfunction over there.
Sell a songwriting forum with 0 membership fee for 20 million ? Good luck with that. Songtown is a serious site , it'll cost you 75 a month for fees and to talk to publishers. people always want things for free. people are humble and kind when its free , Try that when money is involved
Look up the word facetious.
But the problem has always been,no real music listener's. Evidently the peer to peer methid is done, still a need to connect artists with real people
Would have to get viewers through ads. Encourage them to vote, to pick tomorrow's stars. Some kind of incentive.
Let them use the power of their social media to create buzz for users on the site.
Users will pay a fee monthly or yearly.
To me, the invaluable thing is knowing what real people think of your mus8c
I connected with them for 4 months paid adds . You think this sites brutal ? some of them fans belong in a mental ward . Yeah get about 60 % normal people and like your music . The other 40% are crazy. They call you niger , I want carve faggot wings in you . Their nuts. Gay guys , I want fuk your band . it's not all bad , ya get some kids that real cute to talk to
Last edited by bennash; 01/11/2609:15 AM.
We’re all built from the same dust and dreams, Different roads, but the same means.
Imagine the level of self importance one must have, to think that another website, should guarantee him, that I would nor be allowed on.
That's delusion. I do not think that another site unloading you had anything to do with me, nor do I think that they guarantee me that you will stay gone.
The account that I got, after the fact, was that you started the same driveling style of garbage as this thread at another site and they put an end to it, along with your presence.
I'm hopeful that is fact and that they will stay with that decision. At a glance it appears to be true.
I'm wanting to sign off here, not come back, except to quietly put up an occasional finished song. If you want that to happen, don't bring up and derogate my name, and I will have nothing to redress.
Hey Dom...just chiming in to set the fact straight ok?
1) It was me who has been telling folks about The Muse. Have been posting there since @2000...25 years or so. It is all that Marty says it is. Folks are polite and helpful and there is an active moderating group. Its founder...a Toronto web developer...handed the reins to members 5 or so years ago. Has some amazing musicians there
2) Lots of people are at both sites...
3) You misinterpret politeness, the extension of grace, the desire to establish good relationships with people etc as brown nosing
4) If you are on the outside of a clique looking in...repeatedly...is that a problem with cliques or you? Oh and the cliques here are simply people collaborating...something that has in fact sprung up here again ...you see it happening among people here and new "cliques" come and go with their projects Had a great experience with Rob and Kay-lynn and got an amazing video out of it Currently working with another group and have my eyes set on the next
If writing ever becomes work I think I'm going to have to stop
Hey Dom...just chiming in to set the fact straight ok?
1) It was me who has been telling folks about The Muse. Have been posting there since @2000...25 years or so. It is all that Marty says it is. Folks are polite and helpful and there is an active moderating group. Its founder...a Toronto web developer...handed the reins to members 5 or so years ago. Has some amazing musicians there
2) Lots of people are at both sites...
3) You misinterpret politeness, the extension of grace, the desire to establish good relationships with people etc as brown nosing
4) If you are on the outside of a clique looking in...repeatedly...is that a problem with cliques or you? Oh and the cliques here are simply people collaborating...something that has in fact sprung up here again ...you see it happening among people here and new "cliques" come and go with their projects Had a great experience with Rob and Kay-lynn and got an amazing video out of it Currently working with another group and have my eyes set on the next
Hmmmmmn...
Why do you A$$holes keep bringing my name up? I've never had an account @themuse... I WASN'T ALLOWED TO JOIN!
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME HERE... CANCEL CULTURE IS ALIVE AND WELL @JPF! YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DELETED...
Let's smash the computers Throw away the phones Reconnect with sunshine Air out our homes Teach girls to be women Raise boys to be men Make peace with creation And love to live again
I don't want more pills To make me feel better I don't need insurance I won't care when I'm dead I don't need excuses dancin'round in my head If I can't take it with me I'll leave it under my bed
'Cause my eyes may be surprised To see another sunrise
I don't want my bluejeans To color me a racist Or surgical transition I don't think that's wise I don't want more hatred blinding my weary eyes If you blame genetics Then white privilege is a lie
'Cause the skin that I'm in Is no inherent sin
Let's smash the computers...
I don't need AI To make me feel connected Google is the reason I've been so rejected I don't need technology to tell me how to vote I'll just go to church And ask the Holy Ghost
'Cause a salvation congregation Won't argue in heaven
I don't need a miracle To justify my faith I just need my Bible To keep me on the ground I don't need a congressman to classify my pronoun...
Let's smash the computers... =============================
Tell you what, Mr Lied...
Run this through SUNO and post it at the MUSE... Just for fun!
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME HERE... CANCEL CULTURE IS ALIVE AND WELL @JPF! YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DELETED...
Hey Dom...just chiming in to set the fact straight ok?
1) It was me who has been telling folks about The Muse. Have been posting there since @2000...25 years or so. It is all that Marty says it is. Folks are polite and helpful and there is an active moderating group. Its founder...a Toronto web developer...handed the reins to members 5 or so years ago. Has some amazing musicians there
2) Lots of people are at both sites...
3) You misinterpret politeness, the extension of grace, the desire to establish good relationships with people etc as brown nosing
4) If you are on the outside of a clique looking in...repeatedly...is that a problem with cliques or you? Oh and the cliques here are simply people collaborating...something that has in fact sprung up here again ...you see it happening among people here and new "cliques" come and go with their projects Had a great experience with Rob and Kay-lynn and got an amazing video out of it Currently working with another group and have my eyes set on the next
John your full of [naughty word removed]. Here's reality, you have not posted a song, or said anything about music in essentially a decade.
For years you sat up here, waiting to talk politics, kae Lynn comes here and suddenly your Mr song forum.
you have a a set group of people who you will interact with. Either you have no sense of what good songs are, or yiu just domt care, you will go to people you like.
How you could like a mutllha facker like Marty I don't know, he continually be littles yiur thiughts.
I have observed muse. I see its no different. Rules are not followed, for some reason couchgrouxh songs done by Ai are in the showcase section, while everybody else in the Ai section where they are not visible.
Not sure how that's fair to everybody else.
I have seen people bash others there, so don't say its not I saw one thread where two guys bashed Irwins song, nothing said to them.
Its the same thing, if your going to critique the person, and not the sog, you will never have a good forum.
Likewise you do not participate on muse, maybe you eill now for a while.
But think about this, if you know you are passifying people you like, yiu can assume you are getting the same treatment, and if fake or tainted reviews make you happy go for it.
But seriously years went by without a mention of a song from you, stop bullshitin
Tony, please point out where your name was mentioned here???
Originally Posted by JAPOV
Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Hey Dom...just chiming in to set the fact straight ok?
1) It was me who has been telling folks about The Muse. Have been posting there since @2000...25 years or so. It is all that Marty says it is. Folks are polite and helpful and there is an active moderating group. Its founder...a Toronto web developer...handed the reins to members 5 or so years ago. Has some amazing musicians there
2) Lots of people are at both sites...
3) You misinterpret politeness, the extension of grace, the desire to establish good relationships with people etc as brown nosing
4) If you are on the outside of a clique looking in...repeatedly...is that a problem with cliques or you? Oh and the cliques here are simply people collaborating...something that has in fact sprung up here again ...you see it happening among people here and new "cliques" come and go with their projects Had a great experience with Rob and Kay-lynn and got an amazing video out of it Currently working with another group and have my eyes set on the next
Hmmmmmn...
Why do you A$$holes keep bringing my name up? I've never had an account @themuse... I WASN'T ALLOWED TO JOIN!
If writing ever becomes work I think I'm going to have to stop
Tony, please point out where your name was mentioned here???
Originally Posted by JAPOV
Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Hey Dom...just chiming in to set the fact straight ok?
1) It was me who has been telling folks about The Muse. Have been posting there since @2000...25 years or so. It is all that Marty says it is. Folks are polite and helpful and there is an active moderating group. Its founder...a Toronto web developer...handed the reins to members 5 or so years ago. Has some amazing musicians there
2) Lots of people are at both sites...
3) You misinterpret politeness, the extension of grace, the desire to establish good relationships with people etc as brown nosing
4) If you are on the outside of a clique looking in...repeatedly...is that a problem with cliques or you? Oh and the cliques here are simply people collaborating...something that has in fact sprung up here again ...you see it happening among people here and new "cliques" come and go with their projects Had a great experience with Rob and Kay-lynn and got an amazing video out of it Currently working with another group and have my eyes set on the next
Hmmmmmn...
Why do you A$$holes keep bringing my name up? I've never had an account @themuse... I WASN'T ALLOWED TO JOIN!
1Manbitch 2Manbitch 3Manbitch keeps claiming that Dom and I were banned...
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME HERE... CANCEL CULTURE IS ALIVE AND WELL @JPF! YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DELETED...
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