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October was the first month since I started in this business that I didn't see one placement. I used to receive 15-20 placements a month. The last several years it came down to 3-5 placements a month. I imagine soon I'll be lucky to see any placements. Real composers are being buried by AI generated music. I'm thinking maybe this is the end of original music. Depressing. Well, I always told myself, when things slow down, I'll dedicate myself to serious piano works - for my own pleasure. Or send them to a print music publisher like G. Schirmer, Inc. I certainly purchased enough of their manuscripts when I was studying music. They owe me - ha, ha.
October was the first month since I started in this business that I didn't see one placement. I used to receive 15-20 placements a month. The last several years it came down to 3-5 placements a month. I imagine soon I'll be lucky to see any placements. Real composers are being buried by AI generated music. I'm thinking maybe this is the end of original music. Depressing. Well, I always told myself, when things slow down, I'll dedicate myself to serious piano works - for my own pleasure. Or send them to a print music publisher like G. Schirmer, Inc. I certainly purchased enough of their manuscripts when I was studying music. They owe me - ha, ha.
John
Maybe you can use AI in your tool box , I'm sure the answer is no , But it's business man. Pros say that AI might replace a lot of humans, I guess it's coming to fruition , that kinda sucks. I really don't find it funny , thats your livelihood man. My producer was saying doing sound for a festival that somebody walked up and said robots might replace you . He shrugged and said I doubt it , who knows. one hour show he got 3k . not bad, of course he's real smart , not married on the road a lot , payed for house and studio cash . He'll be in Montana on festivals this month , I caught him yesterday singing a song in his studio
Last edited by bennash; 10/09/2507:04 PM.
We’re all built from the same dust and dreams, Different roads, but the same means.
October was the first month since I started in this business that I didn't see one placement. I used to receive 15-20 placements a month. The last several years it came down to 3-5 placements a month. I imagine soon I'll be lucky to see any placements. Real composers are being buried by AI generated music. I'm thinking maybe this is the end of original music. Depressing. Well, I always told myself, when things slow down, I'll dedicate myself to serious piano works - for my own pleasure. Or send them to a print music publisher like G. Schirmer, Inc. I certainly purchased enough of their manuscripts when I was studying music. They owe me - ha, ha.
John
Maybe you can use AI in your tool box , I'm sure the answer is no , But it's business man. Pros say that AI might replace a lot of humans, I guess it's coming to fruition , that kinda sucks. I really don't find it funny , thats your livelihood man. My producer was saying doing sound for a festival that somebody walked up and said robots might replace you . He shrugged and said I doubt it , who knows. one hour show he got 3k . not bad, of course he's real smart , not married on the road a lot , payed for house and studio cash . He'll be in Montana on festivals this month , I caught him yesterday singing a song in his studio
I had a good talk with my publisher today. I wanted to know how AI has affected their business. He said so far, they haven’t noticed much difference. But he said their business was down 50% from the 2023 writer’s strike. He thinks they’ll eventually recover from that. He doesn’t know any music supervisors that are using AI generated tracks – but that may change. He said that AI tracks submissions have increased from 1% to 20%. However, they reject all AI tracks. Said there isn’t anyone that hates AI more than he does. I told him, you just talked with one – ha, ha.
October was the first month since I started in this business that I didn't see one placement. I used to receive 15-20 placements a month. The last several years it came down to 3-5 placements a month. I imagine soon I'll be lucky to see any placements. Real composers are being buried by AI generated music. I'm thinking maybe this is the end of original music. Depressing. Well, I always told myself, when things slow down, I'll dedicate myself to serious piano works - for my own pleasure. Or send them to a print music publisher like G. Schirmer, Inc. I certainly purchased enough of their manuscripts when I was studying music. They owe me - ha, ha.
John
Maybe you can use AI in your tool box , I'm sure the answer is no , But it's business man. Pros say that AI might replace a lot of humans, I guess it's coming to fruition , that kinda sucks. I really don't find it funny , thats your livelihood man. My producer was saying doing sound for a festival that somebody walked up and said robots might replace you . He shrugged and said I doubt it , who knows. one hour show he got 3k . not bad, of course he's real smart , not married on the road a lot , payed for house and studio cash . He'll be in Montana on festivals this month , I caught him yesterday singing a song in his studio
I had a good talk with my publisher today. I wanted to know how AI has affected their business. He said so far, they haven’t noticed much difference. But he said their business was down 50% from the 2023 writer’s strike. He thinks they’ll eventually recover from that. He doesn’t know any music supervisors that are using AI generated tracks – but that may change. He said that AI tracks submissions have increased from 1% to 20%. However, they reject all AI tracks. Said there isn’t anyone that hates AI more than he does. I told him, you just talked with one – ha, ha.
John
That goes for Nashville publishers also... they hate AI songs . But you can't hide from the future , it does have good tools
This is BZ Lewis my producer , He's in big time sync biz like you , He's at some convention in Vegas
Last edited by bennash; 10/10/2510:47 PM.
We’re all built from the same dust and dreams, Different roads, but the same means.
Well, Music Library Report is closing. This from owner Art Munson.
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I’m planning on closing Music Library Report (MLR) on October 1, 2026 (possibly sooner). I created the site back in 2009 as a resource for production music composers, and it’s been an incredible journey ever since. Over the years, the production music world has changed dramatically – and with the rise of AI-generated music, it’s become even more challenging for many of us. I still believe there’s a future in production music, and I’d be happy to keep MLR going, if there’s enough interest and support from the community. In any case, I will keep the website open for now. You can still buy subscriptions, although the lifetime and year-long options will not be available (unless there there is an overwhelming response to continue.)
October was the first month since I started in this business that I didn't see one placement. I used to receive 15-20 placements a month. The last several years it came down to 3-5 placements a month. I imagine soon I'll be lucky to see any placements. Real composers are being buried by AI generated music. I'm thinking maybe this is the end of original music. Depressing. Well, I always told myself, when things slow down, I'll dedicate myself to serious piano works - for my own pleasure. Or send them to a print music publisher like G. Schirmer, Inc. I certainly purchased enough of their manuscripts when I was studying music. They owe me - ha, ha.
John
Maybe you can use AI in your tool box , I'm sure the answer is no , But it's business man. Pros say that AI might replace a lot of humans, I guess it's coming to fruition , that kinda sucks. I really don't find it funny , thats your livelihood man. My producer was saying doing sound for a festival that somebody walked up and said robots might replace you . He shrugged and said I doubt it , who knows. one hour show he got 3k . not bad, of course he's real smart , not married on the road a lot , payed for house and studio cash . He'll be in Montana on festivals this month , I caught him yesterday singing a song in his studio
I had a good talk with my publisher today. I wanted to know how AI has affected their business. He said so far, they haven’t noticed much difference. But he said their business was down 50% from the 2023 writer’s strike. He thinks they’ll eventually recover from that. He doesn’t know any music supervisors that are using AI generated tracks – but that may change. He said that AI tracks submissions have increased from 1% to 20%. However, they reject all AI tracks. Said there isn’t anyone that hates AI more than he does. I told him, you just talked with one – ha, ha.
John
John,
Your TALENT will not be replace. A.I. can't do anything original, EVER. However, it CA replace production cost, of say you supplying a new original piano piece versus you also providing your original melody in 20 different instrumental arrangements supported the original composition. So your melody could be used in many marketable genres of instrumental music. You would have singular ownership, but could offer your publishers/placement services 10 or even 100 produced music genres using your original creation. That is the value of A.I. Who loses? No one. Why? Because you do not have the time nor money to pay anyone to do all that. So it is not lost money if it never existed in the first place. Meanwhile, each opportunity for your original composition has not bumped anyone else out, because it is your original work that is being used. It is like you needing to go into some big recording studio with a mic'd up piano to record your piece versus doing it at home. You do no lament the team of people you could never hire to do that for you, nor would you have the time to do it even if you had the money. The tech is not the problem. Everyone has now been given far more equal footing for their ORIGINAL works. A.I. is never going to write original music. Unless random notes sounds good, it can't instinctually know how to write as it has no humanity nor does it think or create, it simply produces a sound quality using the same digital tools inside all those expensive music gear boxes or expensive plug in programs. It is simply a car versus a buggy.
Brian Austin Whitney Founder Just Plain Folks jpfolkspro@gmail.com Skype: Brian Austin Whitney Facebook: www.facebook.com/justplainfolks
"Don't sit around and wait for success to come to you... it doesn't know the way." -Brian Austin Whitney
"It's easier to be the bigger man when you actually are..." -Brian Austin Whitney
"Sometimes all you have to do to inspire humans to greatness is to give them a reason and opportunity to do something great." -Brian Austin Whitney
"Time to come clean Brian. No, I'm still against AI platforms creating music. But... for the last year I've been receiving quarterly payments for my music used by AI. Until this quarter payment, they have been around the $80 range. My current payment was $1,200. Yes, big surprise. No idea what tracks, or what kind of usage (I don't want to know). My wife asked me "well do you feel differently about AI?". I told her not in the least. My compensation or lack of, I no longer have control of. But I'll still be making music at my piano using pen & manuscript. They can't take that pleasure away from me."
Best, John
Last edited by John Lawrence Schick; 10/25/2508:00 AM.
"Time to come clean Brian. No, I'm still against AI platforms creating music. But... for the last year I've been receiving quarterly payments for my music used by AI. Until this quarter payment, they have been around the $80 range. My current payment was $1,200. Yes, big surprise. No idea what tracks, or what kind of usage (I don't want to know). My wife asked me "well do you feel differently about AI?". I told her not in the least. My compensation or lack of, I no longer have control of. But I'll still be making music at my piano using pen & manuscript. They can't take that pleasure away from me."
Best, John
I don't know the details of your contract which you have allowed A.I. to use your works. You would first need to understand what rights and conditions you must have agreed to. I know that now and then when I upload a song to A.I. I will get back a random new melody I did not create, so are you feeding that into A.I.? That would be ironic. I reject those as a wasted credit, and go back to versions of my work. But A.I. is not writing anything. If you give it no melody, then at best it is using music theory to create something that fits your word structure in whatever tonal range fits the genres and other instructions you have given it. But I never deal with that, except in aberration examples. I suppose if someone is openly selling their melodies, and being paid, so that A.I. can spit it out elsewhere, well that is your choice. If you have been compensated, then that has strings attached. That means likely if someone has a "hit" with your melody via A.I., you will not be able to sue in court. But we would need the details of your contract. The fact that you state that you do not even understand your contract or where/why the money was earned is awfully strange. Maybe you are feeding all those melodies that lyricists are using for their songs they did not write music for. Those melodies come from somewhere. In my case, my melodies marry my lyrics and are produced by A.I. software rather than the plug ins I used to write it with my midi keyboard, then sing into my digital recorder. You aren't getting money for nothing. Either it was airplay/placement or you sold use of your melodies to others. Now, they won't own it, but you won't be able to claim infringement because you have licensed it away. Very strange decision for you, but you are a Pro and that is the future. Licensing will be how stars make money in all arts. They will license use of their style or creations to be used or deconstructed in endless ways for others to build on. That is the true future and it is way better or collaborative than the gatekeeper era we just lived under.
Brian Austin Whitney Founder Just Plain Folks jpfolkspro@gmail.com Skype: Brian Austin Whitney Facebook: www.facebook.com/justplainfolks
"Don't sit around and wait for success to come to you... it doesn't know the way." -Brian Austin Whitney
"It's easier to be the bigger man when you actually are..." -Brian Austin Whitney
"Sometimes all you have to do to inspire humans to greatness is to give them a reason and opportunity to do something great." -Brian Austin Whitney
Hey Brian! This is only one of my publishers. They did note that they are embracing AI generated music. This isn't the bulk of my music. Only a couple hundred non-exclusive tracks. Yes, I should have read the new terms when they came out. They're still using my music in conventional ways.
Hey Brian! This is only one of my publishers. They did note that they are embracing AI generated music. This isn't the bulk of my music. Only a couple hundred non-exclusive tracks. Yes, I should have read the new terms when they came out. They're still using my music in conventional ways.
Best, John
For a penney a track , I bet they are . That sucks on your end . I would think Suno would not scrape Sync songs to steal licks. But who knows
Last edited by bennash; 11/19/2508:40 AM.
We’re all built from the same dust and dreams, Different roads, but the same means.
I do believe sync music is going down the tube. I noticed a big decline in placements the last two months. Go figure, add a couple million AI tracks to the mix, and the real composers get buried. Now unscrupulous music supervisors can find a track that will fill their needs for a few bucks. Something else is happening as well. The smaller sync libraires are selling their libraries to large conglomerates. One of mine has sold their library to a huge one with multiple seller companies attached. Millions of tracks. I notice this new company has been registering my old tracks with ASCAP as the new benefactor. 1995 has been one of my best years. 1996 isn't looking good. Boohoo Johnny...
I do believe sync music is going down the tube. I noticed a big decline in placements the last two months. Go figure, add a couple million AI tracks to the mix, and the real composers get buried. Now unscrupulous music supervisors can find a track that will fill their needs for a few bucks. Something else is happening as well. The smaller sync libraires are selling their libraries to large conglomerates. One of mine has sold their library to a huge one with multiple seller companies attached. Millions of tracks. I notice this new company has been registering my old tracks with ASCAP as the new benefactor. 1995 has been one of my best years. 1996 isn't looking good. Boohoo Johnny...
John
Yeah now Suno paid off labels , Who knows what's next . you can bet it's more robot songs
More bad news from Rick
Last edited by bennash; 11/29/2503:05 AM.
We’re all built from the same dust and dreams, Different roads, but the same means.
And no good for the hardworking, honest composers/ songwriters. I always like to think there's light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm not as optimistic as I once was. Oh, bother...
And no good for the hardworking, honest composers/ songwriters. I always like to think there's light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm not as optimistic as I once was. Oh, bother...
John
I really hate saying lifes a bitch then you die , But robot songs might kill me
We’re all built from the same dust and dreams, Different roads, but the same means.
And no good for the hardworking, honest composers/ songwriters. I always like to think there's light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm not as optimistic as I once was. Oh, bother...
John
I really hate saying lifes a bitch then you die , But robot songs might kill me
No, won't kill you. Just make you wish you were dead.
And no good for the hardworking, honest composers/ songwriters. I always like to think there's light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm not as optimistic as I once was. Oh, bother...
John
I really hate saying lifes a bitch then you die , But robot songs might kill me
No, won't kill you. Just make you wish you were dead.
Pretty much, I'm surprised you have a sense of humor losing money over robots . There's light alright and a train is on the other side
Last edited by bennash; 11/29/2509:43 PM.
We’re all built from the same dust and dreams, Different roads, but the same means.
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