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Diss tracks have a long history in music. Suno makes it super easy to do it. It also makes political memes super easy. One suggestion is to keep it pithy, not super long. A 90 second diss track works way better. Get your point out in a length that someone might listen to on a meme post for example. In fact, Tic Tok has made music in 30 second bites very popular and a lot of people are making HUGE money making super short, usually funny, little 30 second songs. Sort of the musical equivalent to a comedian's one liner.
It was still funny and obvious Suno did the heavy lifting. You should really consider humming a melody into your phone and uploading a melody for your song along with your lyrics so you actually own the underlying result in full. I am finding Suno is reusing melodies pretty often, so you might find a lawsuit awaiting from another Suno user who has already established the melody you were given in a previous track. Also keep in mind that those uploading music are being used in training so the danger and legal responsibility is 100% on you to ensure you are not infringing on someone else, not Suno. That of course would only be relevant if you got people to listen in a wider arena than this post. But Suno users need to understand all legal liability is on you, not Suno. That is what you agreed to when signing on to them. I have seen videos of people humming their melody into their phone and then coming up with really cool stuff where they have legal grounds to stand on to protect their resulting song. Unless of course you infringed in your humming.
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Diss tracks have a long history in music. Suno makes it super easy to do it. It also makes political memes super easy. One suggestion is to keep it pithy, not super long. A 90 second diss track works way better. Get your point out in a length that someone might listen to on a meme post for example. In fact, Tic Tok has made music in 30 second bites very popular and a lot of people are making HUGE money making super short, usually funny, little 30 second songs. Sort of the musical equivalent to a comedian's one liner.
It was still funny and obvious Suno did the heavy lifting. You should really consider humming a melody into your phone and uploading a melody for your song along with your lyrics so you actually own the underlying result in full. I am finding Suno is reusing melodies pretty often, so you might find a lawsuit awaiting from another Suno user who has already established the melody you were given in a previous track. Also keep in mind that those uploading music are being used in training so the danger and legal responsibility is 100% on you to ensure you are not infringing on someone else, not Suno. That of course would only be relevant if you got people to listen in a wider arena than this post. But Suno users need to understand all legal liability is on you, not Suno. That is what you agreed to when signing on to them. I have seen videos of people humming their melody into their phone and then coming up with really cool stuff where they have legal grounds to stand on to protect their resulting song. Unless of course you infringed in your humming.
This song was not a serious endeavor. Just for grins. It served it's purpose as it stands.
As for SUNO, per my understanding, when I upload anything at all into SUNO, SUNO takes the rights to use it however they like and owes me nothing. Once anything is uploaded to their system and has generated something, the rights to that product belong to them and the owner, if the $10 is paid. If SUNO were to promote the song and made a million dollars, they would owe me nothing of that per the TOA. It doesnt matter if I sung it prior to upload or not.
That seems fair and reasonable to me. I get to play around exclusively with some lyrics for a day or two....which I enjoy. And then, for virtually free, SUNO turns them into a well produced song with iterations, in a short moment. Never would have happened otherwise.
A work-around would be to write a song about lost love, or whatever. And then write a song about something non-sensical with the same syllabic pattern. Generate a melody using AI. And then record the song off-line using the melody or something close. I have no audience and no reason to go to all of that trouble.
Blah Blah Blah , Go to the studio and sing one, even if you're using a walker and your mind is slipping. AI this AI that , thats all ya hear about
Ben
Aint no point in resisting the inevitable. You may scream "STAY DOWN!" at a sunrise because you want another hour of sleep, but the sun aint gonna stay down.
The link below is Joe Rogan commenting on a Rick Beato video where Beato had AI invent a pop star and write the lyrics and music for the invented pop star's song. The video is a short and it says it all. I don't blame you for not believing me, but Beato is a good musician and has real world personal experience in the song industry.
It appears to me....that the traditional occupation of songwriter is in it's final stage. (Song) Supply is limitless. Going forward, I think that people will have to perform for live audiences to make a living in music. Seems very uncertain where that even ends up.
The takeaway: Accept the inevitable. Use and enjoy the tools available to you.
Naw , I ll just use session players and sing in a studio . But AI is not going anywhere. Rick Beatos is all over the place on AI. the only inevitable thing ls your to lazy to go to a studio and sing one , So you push buttons on AI
Last edited by bennash; 09/11/2502:28 PM.
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the only inevitable thing ls your to lazy to go to a studio and sing one , So you push buttons on AI
You apparently went back and edited this and added the empty insult...Well, when the argument fails...
I have a home studio. I use PreSonus. I enjoy using it. I have real monitors, real mics and have taught myself to do an okay job with all of it.
BUTT, It takes weeks and has a major limitation, which is my ability to sing. I'm okay at singing some songs, but am limited by timbre and have a very limited range and few if any, advanced skills that enable me to nuance. My guitar playing is a bit better than that. It used to cost me $1000-$1400 to produce a song at the studio.
Now, at home, it costs nothing beyond the electricity required to run the equipment...and, it is completely adequate for my hobby.
My favorite part of songwriting is lyrics.
QUESTION FOR YOU; If I can write some lyrics in 1-7 days which are production ready, why should I go spend hundreds of dollars at a studio along with the time it takes there, versus 10 minutes with SUNO, spending pennies? And SUNO gives me a production which is miles beyond my personal capabilities?
As evidence...A TROLL AT THE OPERA. By merely typing "operatic," within seconds, I got a rendition that sounded operatic for pennies. Practically, impossible for me otherwise.
I found this comment to be the most significant of this news piece:
"Anything that is completely generated by AI is not copyrightable". - Rick Beato
Agreed Dave, millions of un-copyright-able songs out there floating about that anyone can go and play at their next gig. with no obligations at all for the usage? What happens to ASCAP?
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