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I used Suno V4 to create this song.

All the best - Robert


TRUTH (It's The Courage Just To Start)
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[Verse]
You heard it once, now it's the gospel
No questions asked, no inner battle
You wear the lie like high fashion
But the truth? Just background distraction

[Verse]
You don't wanna see the cracks
In your picture-perfect facts
It's easier to point and run
Than face the fire and come undone

[Pre-chorus]
Yeah, the truth is clear, but you tune it out
You chase the echo, not the sound
You trust the noise, not what is real
Cause comfort's louder than what you feel

[Chorus]
Whoa, its wild, what we do
No proof needed to believe what's untrue
But when the truth breaks into view
We want a hundred signs and a miracle too
Yeah, believing isn't the hardest part
It's the courage just to start
Whoa, the truth lives in our hearts
It's the courage just to start

[Verse]
You say you want it raw and real
But only if it fits your deal
Built on fear and pretty lies
Truth don't shine in painted skies

[Pre-chorus]
Yeah, the truth is clear, but you tune it out
You chase the echo, not the sound
You trust the noise, not what is real
Cause comfort's louder than what you feel

[Chorus]
Whoa, its wild, what we do
No proof needed to believe what's untrue
But when the truth breaks into view
We want a hundred signs and a miracle too
Yeah, believing isn't the hardest part
It's the courage just to start
Whoa, the truth lives in our hearts
It's the courage just to start

[Bridge]
What if you let your questions speak?
What if doubt made you unique?
What if letting go was brave?
And it led you to the truth you crave?

[Breakdown]
Not everything that glitters lies
Not every truth wears a disguise
Sometimes it's glowing in plain light
If you'd only open your eyes

[Final Chorus]
Whoa, its wild, what we do
No proof needed to believe what's untrue
But when the truth breaks into view
We want a hundred signs and a miracle too
Yeah, believing isn't the hardest part
It's the courage just to start
Whoa, the truth lives in our hearts
It's the courage just to start

[Outro]
Whoa-oh, believing's not the hardest part
It's the courage just to start (start, start, start)

Meaningful lyrics Rob.

A suggestion...Apply them to your own life, if you can.

Marty

Thanks Marty.

Allow me to ask you: Do you believe the 2020 election was stolen?

Rob,

You don't read what I post.

I have stated that I wondered how much corruption went on in that election, particularly in PENN.
If you think that is unwarranted, go on GEMINI, and ask..."How many political indictments for corruption have their been in Philadelphia."
Put a day aside to read the response.

However, as I have stated previously...

Trump went to war with Georgia. Even the repub gov. And there were two special senatorial elections.
The Repubs were heavily Trump endorsed. They were full-on MAGA.
The GA gov had appointed one of them to the senate as a temporary fill. So Loeffler was already serving.
The whole world was hyper-focused on that election.
My assumption was that any voter fraud would be very hard to get away with.

The democrats, Warnock and Ossoff, won both seats. IN A RED STATE.
My conclusion from that was that Biden likely did have the votes to win the presidential election.
That was the end of the controversy for me.
They audited AZ and found nothing.
Nothing that Guiliani or Powell claimed ever came to sh+t.
Barr said that there was nothing.
Nothing objective indicated that the election should be overturned.
Biden was in office and wasnt going anywhere.
ISSUE DONE.

Bill Maher just had dinner with Trump and Kid Rock.
He did a CNN special as a follow up. I suggest that you watch it.
In it Maher claims that Trump stated to him that he "lost the election."

Now I know that your TDS is going to skyrocket because Trump still says that it was stolen publicly. I dont believe that.
But for me...I dont GAF, because there are more important issues to be concerned with, such as the border(s)
So...do I want a guy that lies about past election results or do I want someone who will allow criminal aliens to flood into the country?

Marty

Marty, I have to admit that I don't not following what you write anymore. Sorry, but I just don't have the time.
I wrote this song about people who believe in lies like the January 6 lie without even wanting to hear the truth. People died that day because of that. It's about people who believe that some countries are imposing huge tariffs on other countries even though they are not. It's about how quickly some people believe a lie and how long it takes them to recognize the truth. Normally, it should be the other way around. This is not supposed to be a political song even though politics triggered me to write these lyrics. What I describe in the lyrics could happen in normal life too. I have no idea why you think I should apply the message in this song to my own life, but I prefer not to debate anything with you.

Take care - Robert

Rob
I did not ask you a question.
You ask me one.
Your question was surprisingly concise.

I answered it with supporting verifiable facts, as best as they are available to me.
The answer upended the narrative that you were fishing for, so you ignored it and started rattling off in another direction.

That is a form of denial Rob. That is living in a fog of biases.

Marty

Speaking of the song , The robot did a good job. Your into politics

Hey Elvis,
thanks for the feedback. If a song about truth and lies is political these days, I guess that tells us a lot.

As you know I don't follow the circus much , all them politians lie , I don’t care for Trump , but we’re stuck with him .

Its a good song

I know Elvis. I should do that too. Thanks!

And "bias" Rob.
Which is filtering out unwanted lies in favor of bias confirming lies.

But here is a sad truth...
that is the state of the world from the beginning of time.
After WW2, the people of the US lived in a moral bubble for a couple of decades and then the ancient tendencies began returning.

Marty

Marty,
I have no idea why you are attacking me. I wrote a song about truth and lies. Not about you. You commented the lyrics and launched another indirect attack. I responded by explaining what the song is about and why I wrote it. You don't believe the lie that the election was stolen. Great for you. I don't want to debate if you believe some of the many other Trump lies or not. This is the song section of the forum. The truth and lies issue applies to other countries and other topics as well. I'm not in the US at the moment so I'm not following what is going on there. I wrote that I prefer not to debate anything with you. I hate to leave this site completely but I feel like you're stalking me and forcing me to go.

Robert

Oh, hey Rob...

If it wasn't for Marty, I never would have realized you were here

Another great sounding AI song that nobody but you understands, CONGRATS!

Rob,
I'm trying to help you to "get real."

You write and publicly post these political sermons that advocate for Rob's view of the world. That's fine.
You call it "the truth." And anyone who doesnt believe as you do, believes lies. That is naivete.

If you subscribe to someone who gets rich in the business of dishing out hard left red meat to a niche audience, such as Rachel Maddow, I can say and feel certain that there are a lot non-truths in your belief system.

So when you come out here with these political sermons and call them "truth" and anything contrary "lies," expect it to be challenged.
Political sermons posted publicly in a very divided society ARE a challenge.

I dont feel that I am attacking you. You enjoy floating these balloons. I enjoy expressing a different viewpoint.

Robot Marty

Marty,
I find what you're writing here and the way you're writing about me is absolutely disgusting. Once again: I wrote a non-political song about truth and lies. It’s amazing how people, including me, need no proof to believe a lie but demand endless proof to accept the truth. The acceptance of truth requires a willingness to question, to examine, and to let go of ingrained biases - a journey that demands courage and humility. This applies to politics and normal life situations.

I admit political events inspired me to write about this topic, but this song isn't about Trump or MAGA. I didn't make any political statements in the lyrics. Not one! Honestly, this song is about a very private event in my life. My ex lied to me once. I don’t want to go into any details, especially not with you, but I believed her lies, and even after friends and relatives provided clear facts, I stuck to my decision to believe the lies. I desperately wanted the lies to be the truth. The truth was clear, but I tuned it out because I felt more comfort in the lies. I guess I didn’t have the courage to believe what was really true. Friends said I was brainwashed. Maybe. I was just blindly in love and didn’t want to believe the truth. After a long time, I recognized the truth, or rather the lies. That is what I wrote about. A real situation.

Now you say you’re trying to help me “get real”. You're accusing me of writing a political song. Even worse, you call this a political sermon. I think you are the guy writing the political sermons here in this thread. You're so sick and obsessed with politics. When Fleetwood Mac released "Little Lies," did you call that one a political seron too?.

Of course you do. It counters your narrative that want to present as unchallenged truth.



You did, but you didn't...but you did.




Yes to all three of those. Clearly.


And then, there is this...

Hi Rob,

I enjoyed your song. Well done!

I use Udio cuz one thing about Suno I don't like is their vocalists all sound auto-tuned. That works fine on a song like this, though.

The lyric is vague enough to fall into "ink blot" territory and "politics" doesn't immediately come to mind at all.

But once you ask Marty about the election being stolen, can you see how then, one can re-read your lyric with politics in mind, and then see all kinds of connections to politics?

And Marty, right before that, trolled you a bit to suggest you "practice what you preach" --and me, coming in cold and not following what I must assume is an ongoing drama between you guys, imagine Marty was carrying some unfinished business into this thread, and it appears that unnerved you enough to have then brought up politics in this thread.

Am I reading all this right, guys?

I just finished season three of Yellowjackets. A tiny side-spoiler follows: Imagine a dozen teenage girls stranded on a remote island for a couple years, resorting to cannibalism, and doing assorted horrible things because the "wilderness wants them to." The show splits between them on the island and with them grown up decades later, where they are all dealing with their secret and having impulses that don't jive with society. Here is my point: The big reveal at the end of the current season is a note one such grown-up character writes, where she owns that the thing they never owned was that the real reason they did those things and still want to, is that, as dark and awful as those things they did were, they were exciting, made them feel alive...in a word, they were FUN. A tainted fun, admittedly.

What am I trying to say, here? The truth Shauna was finally able to accept was that they didn't do bad things because they had to, but because, without any "law" to enforce anything, they were free to let their ids run the joint, and so alphas emerged and dominated. This is "Lord of the Flies," "The Walking Dead," and to some extent, in a really abstract way, JPF. We're free to let it all hang out, for the most part, and perhaps for the few regulars who remain, this is how they like it. Alphas have emerged. Lots of trolling, some self-aware, mostly not. Me? Words are powerful things with me. They can make or ruin my day. So a place like this is tough for me. Honesty never comes without psychological baggage.

I can see the value of decorum; otherwise any/every post can potentially degrade into the same inescapable noise. Some are drawn to this. Me? Not so much.

I love you guys and wish everyone could get along. It would be great to actually BUILD something, with a group of talented folks such as us, instead of this. I think, as humans, we're capable of more...but doing what we do...is the fun we can't admit we're actually having...notice I said WE cuz I am as guilty as any of us. I am just trying to own, or at least "come to terms" with parts of myself I don't necessary like, such as (enjoying) tainted forms of fun, that comes with the semi-anonymity of The Internet.

Mike