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Gal Gadot is a really cool chic!

I don't eat eggs. I quit appx 40 years ago.

The air strikes are unfortunate, but from what I have seen in the media, they were jets from a carrier. No troops.

Elon Blinked!

Seems Musk wrote a letter to Trump saying tariffs are destructive

Could it be because

1) BC cut off all rebates for Tesla vehicles there..
2) Ontario shut out Starlink--temporarily on hold
3) There is an active petition to rescind his Canadian citizenship (yes he passed though here)
4) Aluminum tariffs (US side) plus Cdn tariffs will dramatically increase Tesla prices (high use of that metal in their cars)

perhaps our "surgical" responses are having some effect.

Our expressed intent is to directly target those with the ear of the President....


Marty, I am somewhat surprised by the nonchalant answer "I don't eat eggs" so this is of no consequence.
Found out that egg smuggling has overtaken drug smuggling at some US\Mexico and US\Cdn borders
Found out these eggs and egg products are simply burned....
Stands to reason eggs matter to many Americans


Tony I am glad you are alright after the deadly storms your way. Good to see you can still add your uniquely useless POV to the mix.
Perhaps though you should stick to the prophecy thread and talk about the increasing severity and destruction in storms and wildfires in the US.
Is that a sign of the end times or simply climate change?

John,

Guilty as charged John.
For going on a decade, I have watched the TDS afflicted blow every little thing about Trump, up into a world ending event.
Eggs aren't the end of the world.
I haven't ordered eggs or red meat since my 30s. I don't miss them and am certain that the chickens will get back down to business in the not to distant future.
Very appropriately, inform Chicken-Little et al that the sky is not falling.

Change that narrow focus to the following;

Trump govt has arrested upwards to 30k illegal aliens, a great percentage of which are criminals.
Instead of worrying about where your next egg is coming from, contemplate all of the would-be victims that will not raped, molested, trafficked, murdered, robbed, etc etc etc.

Priorities my friend.

Marty


And yes, Musk blinked. He was involved in a blitzkrieg of the govt bureaucracy and there were some unintended consequences, so a course shift is in order.
In other news, I believe that his rescue rocket ship has docked at the space station.

I just read that NATO countries (including Canada) are actively looking for alternatives for the F-35 jets and other military equipment. That would really impact the trade balance. It amounts to 2% of their GDP.

I doubt that the price of eggs will go back down to where it was when the supply comes back. We'll see.

A lot of Canadians have real estate here in southwest Florida, where i live. Many of them are selling their houses now because of Trump. Real estate prices have gone down by 15-20% since the beginning of the year because there are now so many houses on the market. I find it surprising that many Trump supporters are starting to express discontent.

Morning Marty

You have made it clear that the border was your number one hot button, and I totally respect that

I have also gone around the block with you enough to respect your thinking. That you actually were able to persuade me of the merits of the 2nd amendments remains a landmark in our strolling

WRT border... we seem to line up with the numbers...but are all of them really criminals? Were all of them "illegal" according to law?
But we can leave that entirely. Seems judges are now weighing in on particular cases and sorting things out...even turning planes around to actually provide justice.
They may go in the end, but it will be law and not capriciousness and randomness. And over reach as any innocent and inadvertently deported were called "collateral damage" by Holmes who did not seem to care there were laws in place to do what he was directed to do. So that is a good sign.

My problem with your argument is that in the same way as dealing with the "illegals" with directives, he has also done the same in a number of areas that trample on US civil rights ....plus he is creating creating economic instability ....plus he and now his cronies support or excuse his view Canada is some artifical creation and should be a state. You say the (metaphorical) sky is not falling...but just because it is not where you are....just like eggs...all of this matters elsewhere and to others.

You call it TDS and say it is OUR affliction.
We see TDS as Trump being the one afflicted.
We see Trump as having to be reigned in by advsisors....who we unfortunately see as toadies and yes men

Rob,

You live in FLA. You know better than I do, that FLA real estate began sinking back during Biden.
Neither Biden nor Trump can stop the hit that FLA is taking.

RE Shot way up.
Then came some back to back hurricanes.
Then came that Condo structural failure.
Most damaging, then came the law that Condos must assess fees for a set-back fund.

Then people started selling off.
The came the dive.

Florida and Texas are leading a housing downturn

John,

The people came in the country and it was illegal to do so.
If they were all tossed on the same day, several industries such as construction would collapse.
Trump knows that.

But he is up to 30k , or so they say. That is a fraction.
If he gets to 1 million that is still a fraction.
If he gets to 2 million, that is still a fraction.

My advice to law abiding illegal aliens is to remain law abiding, stay clear of criminal aliens, keep vehicles registered and repaired, stop at all stop signs, damn sure avoid DUIs, don't shut down any freeways. Some still may get caught in the net, but...they are here illegally and they know it. We have a country to think about and if ICE stops to "have a conversation" about every illegal picked up...nothing will get done.

There is a very sensible Hispanic alderman in Chicago who wants the city to cooperate fully with ICE in the apprehension and removal of criminal aliens from his community. He said that his people were scared in doors for a few days, but they are all coming back out, leading law abiding lives and much less fearful.

Yes there was some debate and disagreement and disappointment about the numbers in my various sources but to me that is a side issue
The speed by which something happens is mostly less important that he destination.

Not sure if authorities care about the job losses as they care more about new jobs by citizens...which has a "structural deficit" in some industries, like construction, lawn maintenance or that ICE raid on a Texas cell phone repair facility....so some companies will have to change their labour practices and payrolls. Perhaps also charge employers who hire illegals? Is that a good tactic?

Totally agree criminal illegal aliens should be deported.
Totally agree illegal aliens should be deported unless they can clearly demonstrate they are actually contributing otherwise as law abising US citizens.

But it has to be done legally and not based on a Presidential order based on a 1796 Illegal Alien act only ever used under much narrower circumstance.
It only puts (increasingly expensive) egg on his face when judges take over that decision...

Well, Alrighty then.



If that law is on the books, then it's a law.
Murder was illegal in 1796 also, and is still on the books.
RvW was a law for decades with no constitutional basis. Things get messy sometimes.

Ultimately SCOTUS will decide, I suppose.

Marty

PS I have MSNBC on in the background, Dims approval rating by a CNN poll is historically low, if I heard it right. You need to focus your attention elsewhere.

A federal court judge already turned the plane around on the basis of that law's use in this circumstance. Expect it will be dealt with in the courts so yes it may end up with SCOTUS
Seems the use of this particular legislation can then deport any and all Venezualans because it assumes a state of war exists between your two countries
Should these criminals be deported? Absolutely. Under this decree? You have the means to do it legally without interference.
And it is dangerous for US Attorney General Pam Bondi to openly disregard those means and support Trump's use of the wrong legislation because it is her job to get it right.

The Palestinian permanent resident too will have to be dealt with differently because he is being treated like he does not have a green card.

Don't know if the WH lawyers are incompetent, but Trump and DOGE (Department of Government Egregiousness) are using the wrong laws to achieve what they want in their end justifies the means approach to law enforcement and gaining government efficiency (read their guidelines as to what they want to achieve and they make sense....just do it legally)

And yes, poor DEMs are definitely a split and I expect a demoralized group with a beat up base who cannot see how they can come back.
And the "Schumer Shutdown" prevention was definitely polarizing....

And I am a little surprised by the MSNBC reference....but guess keeping tabs on what the opposition is saying makes sense

The only time I watch anything MSNBC is on Youtube where they show Lawrence O'Donnel. Rachel Maddow is IMO toxically biased and I don't see the others as having any clout ...at least with me.
CNN I can take or leave, but I like their round tables...especially with Abby Philip which I may or may not tune into on days when TS is hitting the fan.

Most news I get from the internet news sites
My own Globe and Mail, BBC, Reuters, AP, Dutchnews, Factcheck.org, Al Jazeera, BNN Bloomberg, Cspan and Allsides top my news sources along with some assorted others including USAToday

Marty,
your response seemed to make a lot of sense the first time I read it. But now I'm scratching my head. I don’t understand what Biden has to do with the value of my real estate? Everybody knows supply and demand is responsible for the prices of many things (eggs, real estate, …). Accordingly, prices go up and down. Of course, tariffs override this rule. We took a direct hit from hurricane Ian in late 2022. My real estate asset value went just slightly higher in 2022 and in 2023. It rose over 60% in 2024. Are you saying Biden was responsible for that sharp rise in demand? How did he do that? Maybe it was the stock market wealth that allowed people to pay higher prices. I don't know. Since the beginning of this year, supply has skyrocketed and demand for real estate seems to be fairly low. That's good for me because my property taxes will go down again, hopefully. All of the houses on my street up for sale are owned by Canadians. I didn’t know so many Canadians owned houses here. The ones I talked to say they are selling because of our current president and his policies towards Canada. But anyway, thanks for the explanation. I’m sure things are different where you live.

P.S. I just heard the Harry S. Truman was attacked in the Red Sea. It looks like we are being drawn in to another conflict in a faraway country.

Rob,

Do you want there to be a problem?
Am I missing punctuation marks or something.

The point that I made was that neither Biden, nor Trump have anything to do with what currently threatens values in FLA.
It is market forces, the most prominent of which imo, was the structural failure that led to the FLA legislature mandating set back funds for future structural inspections and work.
I have seen and read that some of those assessments are stunningly high and deal killers for investors.

There is a guy that I follow named Nick on Youtube. He is an independent voice who appears to work completely alone. He is real bright and has been invited to CNBC and a major network interviews. He started calling FLA and TX real estate markets a year before anyone else was. Since you are a FLA property owner, you might like following his videos.

Here is a link to one specifically about FLA.



Marty

Thank you Marty. This video was really interesting. It confirmed what I described. Prices went up in 2022, 2023 and 2024. Apparently, real estate prices in my area have fallen by 38%, just in 2025. So, it's much worse than I thought. He confirmed that people are moving. In my area they are going back to Canada and they are saying it's because of Trump's politics. The high concentration of Canadians in my area might be the reason prices here are falling much more than in other areas of Florida. I don't know. I'm just happy my taxes will go down ... I hope.

Rob
If Someone tells you that they are moving back to Canada from Florida because of Trump, tell them to grow a pair.
That's disgusting. For most of us, whoever is POTUS is not going to decide where we live. Good riddance to them.
TDS is a real thing.

And I suspect that Trump is just the cover story in most cases.

Nick is a real thing too. He focuses a lot of his time on FLA and TX because those two markets are stacking up with inventory and prices could fall a lot further.
High season is April thru May. When June gets here, hope will either be gone for sellers or possibly rekindled. The markets should start showing a firm direction at that time.

Nick's latest...

Wife and I are planning to move to Marble Falls Tx in couple of years. Planning to buy a property this summer. That is why I am tracking the market as best I can.

Marty

These guys are not going to like Bukele's CECOT.

Deporting them unleashes them there instead.

And they got here, they can get here again.

I like what Trump is doing he seems to not tolerate lawlessness unless it's himself.

But it's going to take time to see what impact it has. Some could be decoys too. Let them go after us, while a nother drove lands somewhere else.

The root of the problem is hopelessness . Sounds hokey I know.

If these guys had bright futures they wouldn't be in it

Interesting video of process and place...saw it on Google maps and it looks secure enough. No problem with them being sent there as I said before. ...we'll let the federal court system decide if they used the right authority.

The criminal groups were designated as terrorists...hopefully judically..no reason to suspect otherwise but had to express the caveat....and they definitely committed crimes persistently ....so no sympathy here on their removal or where they ended up. As FD said...perhaps deportation would mean they could not be sent there and only to Venezuala...dunno

Real estate dude sounded credible....thanks for that Marty

To our on going discussion

Insiders are saying Trump is dealing with Canada the way he is because he disliked Trudeau. No one wins when emotion enters the equation....but here we are.
Emotion is driving rhetoric and decisions...not hard facts and rational thinking.

We will have an election called soon BTW. I expect Mark Carney will be our next PM. He is a clear headed, highly experienced former central bank governor of Canada and the UK.
While in the UK, he led Britain through its Brexit. I think he will be able to speak reason. He has publicly stated he understands what Trump is trying to achieve.

As for having no one tell you were to live, that is decidedly not what is happening. Canadians are reacting because they dislike Trump and what he had done to Canada and our relationship. Our current exchange rate may also be playing a part as is recent "Snowbird" admission rule changes (Canadians coming to Florida for more than 30 days now have to be fingerprinted and there are other barriers)

What I did not hear addressed ...perhaps rightly so but it deserves mention....is that supply is always high simply because aging retirees die or move away...so that demand was\is easily filled with no upward price pressure

Up next...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-global-tariffs-canada-1.7484790
Good article to read...a few minutes....and summed up below... It goes beyond the bluster and Trump's policy of approach aggressively and brandish wildly
And tag the site as credible news..not fake


The focus of the U.S. government is dealing with its yearly deficit in federal spending, Paterson said. According to the U.S. Treasury Department, the federal government ran a $1.83 trillion US deficit in the 2024 fiscal year.

There are three things the U.S. government is doing that affect the deficit, Paterson added.

The first is a major budget resolution that calls for trillions of dollars in spending and tax cuts, which is "something that must not increase that deficit further while keeping tax levels and competitiveness low," Paterson said.

The other two are measures to help make the spending and tax cuts happen without growing the deficit, including slashing government spending through Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency and tariffs, which are meant to be a new revenue source and attract investment into the United States.

Paterson said the American plan is to impose tariffs by sector across countries all around the world on April 2. From there, the countries that get along with the U.S. the best will be "first in line" to adjust or mitigate the tariffs.


Will it work???? We have to wait

Gangs are in the US Military. They take the training try get and become better criminals.

Read up on the Jalisco New Generation Cartel...
It arose as a break-away cartel. It had a militia division.
From what I've read that division, though mostly ex-Mex armed services, has some ex-US military at the head of it.

Per Gemini

The rise of the Jalisco New Generation Cartel (CJNG) is a complex story rooted in the shifting dynamics of Mexican drug cartels. Here's a breakdown of its key origins:  

Splintering of the Milenio Cartel:
The CJNG emerged from the remnants of the Milenio Cartel. This cartel, once allied with the Sinaloa Cartel, began to fracture following the capture of its leaders and the death of key figures like Ignacio "Nacho" Coronel.  
This power vacuum created an opportunity for new factions to emerge.
"El Mencho" and Leadership:
Nemesio Oseguera Cervantes, known as "El Mencho," played a crucial role in consolidating these splinter groups into the CJNG. His leadership and strategic vision were instrumental in the cartel's rapid expansion.  
Exploiting Power Vacuums:
The CJNG capitalized on the internal conflicts and weakening of other cartels, including the Sinaloa Cartel and Los Zetas.  
This allowed them to expand their territory and control lucrative drug trafficking routes.
Tactics and Violence:
The CJNG gained notoriety for its extreme violence and aggressive tactics. They have been known to engage in open confrontations with Mexican security forces, demonstrating a willingness to use significant firepower.  
Their use of brutal tactics, including public displays of violence, has been used to intimidate rivals and establish dominance.  
Diversification of Criminal Activities:
Beyond drug trafficking, the CJNG has diversified its criminal activities to include extortion, kidnapping, and other illicit ventures, increasing its revenue streams.  
In essence, the CJNG's rise is a story of opportunistic expansion, strong leadership, and brutal tactics, all occurring within the context of a volatile and ever-changing criminal landscape in Mexico.  


Sources and related content

Morning FD

Interesting statement that if they had hope, they would not be in it.

My take is it is greed and desire for money the "easy way".

Not every kid "from the ghetto" goes bad to the extent these gang members have.

And thanks for my "head shake" ...deportation was\wouls be insuffient....taking them to trial and US prison was likely deemed ineffective....and San Salvador built a prison for terrorists that had capacity and security.

Gangs in military is a massive problem. Our tax dollars paying to train them. They leave and become hardened criminals on street.

It's also a recruiting ground for kids not yet in the gangs. So they go in honored soldiers, leave with tattoos.

And what about allegences?

And forming gangs in the military. Access to weaponry, plans, military gear

Vexing problem, I'm surprised Trump is not on it, every gang is represented in the military

But you don't get greedy until in. The decision to go in is based on lack of family support, lack of education, lack of opportunities.

John

Bukele built CECOT for El Salvadoran gangs.
Gang tatoos are all it takes get you locked up, possibly for life.
El Salvador has gone from the deadliest country in the Western Hemisphere to the safest country in the Western Hemisphere, because of this prison and Bukele.

Venezuela wont take these murderous beasts back. The US is paying El Salvador to house them until something can be worked out.

Marty our ONLY difference of opinion is that it seems there was no due process to ensure they were all, in fact, tried and convicted criminals or gang members who SHOULD be incarcerated there.

It there are innocent undocumented or documented migrants among them...you cannot simply say...as Homan said some weeks back....."they are collateral damage" .

These folks are in that facility even if they should not be there. That is (hopefully) settled by due process.

You describe a nasty place built to rid El Salvador of its gang control and from what I saw, that is one secure place.

And FD...I am sure there are some like you describe....but from what I have read (no formal research mind you) kids join under pressure (used by gangs because of laws protecting juveniles) or because they see kids their age spending money and driving cars and want that.

Ya'll just keep beating each other over the head with minority interest political quotes from liberal news sources...

BORING!
Parrots are actually quite annoying...

Wake up, Brian! This site doesn't need a POLITICS thread! It needs a place where Folx feel safe enough to have an opinion!

"THE RANT ARENA"

Good grief, gentlemen... You're all musicians and songwriters. Try "EXPRESSING YOURSELVES"! BE ENTERTAINING!

Like THIS;


The word "trade" implies mutual agreement and fair exchange... DUUH!

If the whole rest of the world wakes up and follows the American initiative, then countries will become independent and self sufficient again. Sovereignty will take precedence over global economy, and the world will get out of this Bull$hit trade deficit and global debt scam!
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America is not the world police; It's not even a beacon of Christian morality anymore. America is barely the last Christian holdout...

Bottom line...
Unless America has a vested interest in foreign affairs, then America has no reason to interject itself into international disputes; Especially disputes with the politically corrupt. Trump is not a globalist.

Trump is busy pulling the "proverbial log" out of America's eye!

However, with regard to allies, for the record...

I HOPE TRUMP DOES TURN GAZA INTO A GOLF COURSE!

China, Russia and Iran are always practicing/threatening war...

I'D RATHER PLAY GOLF!
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And I never liked Canadian bacon anyway, MAGA Bitches!

But, I digress...

Ya'll really should pay more attention to history...
Why do you think the world trade center was destroyed? 9/11 ring any bells?

What really deserves scrutiny is what Trump is attempting with AI and Cryptocurrency...

The banks of Europe are a bit older and more "established" than America. The EU isn't going to tolerate Trump challenging their "authority".

Tough love, kiddies! Trump's cuttin' the chord.
All little babies grow teeth... Mommy has to take away the nipple...
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Socialist "WOKE" democracy has failed, and Mama Liberty's tits are sore!
And if Trump kicks Bill Gates, China, and other foreign entities off of American farmlands...? I'LL BE ABLE TO AFFORD A FUK'N T'BONE AGAIN!
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I hope "The View" and CNN move to Canada...
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The MATH doesn't add up!

JUST BECAUSE AMERICA IS THE LARGER AND MORE PRODUCTIVE NATION DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT SHOULD PAY MORE IN TRADE!

America has a lot more people to feed and a lot more houses to build.

WE CAN GROW OUR OWN TREES, GENERATE OUR OWN ELECTRICITY, AND MAKE OUR OWN DAMN ALUMINUM!

AND WE DON'T NEED ANYBODY ELSE'S FUK'N OIL!
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You Liberals always go on about global freedom and equity...
But, that will never be a reality as long as you keep manipulating the "common law" in order to screw each other over! Just like the Romans!

What part of "America First" is so hard to understand? Every other country on this planet obviously functions the same way. The only difference is that America doesn't need to perpetuate the "Trade Deficit and World Debt" scam.

When America engages in international trade it's more of a favor than a necessity... an opportunity for equitable partnership.

However, when "partners" turn into spoiled little entitled brats, it's time to cut the cord!

On a side note;
Has anyone else noticed how impressive that cute little blonde who does the White House briefings is? Karoline Leavitt?

She sure makes that job look easy lol...

I guess it's a lot simpler when you don't have to lie about how brain-dead the Commander In Chief is.

That's not to mention how stupid and "DULL" socialist democrats are...

TRUMP! 12 MORE YEARS!

https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=14962827

John

ROPE A DOPE

Trump put 2 plane fulls of murderous illegal alien beasts in the air headed for El Savador and CECOT.
He made an assumption based on an ancient law and sent them knowing that there would be blow back and challenges from libtardia.
I've been listening to MSDNC this morning. With one exception, it has been parade of fools saying that Trump should have turned a plane full of killers around and brought them back to the United States on the OPINION OF ONE JUDGE.

The dem-tards are killing themselves.
The more hell that they raise about this, the more people find out that the dims want to bring murderous beasts back to the US...AFTER THEY ARE GONE.
This is Trump's script. This is rope-a-dope.

Oh, but it' about constitutionality and the RULE OF LAW!!!! RvW was about constitutionality and the rule of law. Taking Trump off the ballots in CO and ME was constitutionality and due process. Democrats fought against constitutionality tooth and nail. It's about TDS. Trump is trapping them in the predictability of their own disease.

Here is reality...
This is headed up the courts. May end up at SCOTUS. Until there is a final ruling, there is no determination of it's legality. There is only supposition.

THERE IS NO CASE!
American sovereignty and safety is CONSTITUTIONALLY PARAMOUNT!
Criminal illegal aliens get deported, go to prison, or both. Period.

Anti-American socialist lawyers have been trying to subvert the US Constitution since George Washington was gnashing his wooden teeth!

Marty the only thing I have been arguing for is due process to ensure no one who is NOT supposed to be there is not. They should not be "collateral damage" in a wide cast net.
Blame my bleeding heart socialism or any thing you like. I just feel that is basic legal fairness and basic justice.

And that one Federal judge ordered it is a system you have always had...one judge CAN do exactly as done. Your system purposefully does not require a panel of judges voting on it.

And I am not arguing against his use of that law. They are a designated terror group for their demonstrated actions, they are foreigners, acting criminally in the USA, just not officially on behalf of Venezuala.
In fact I think FD said Venezuala did not want them either. CECOT is a good place for them.

Mind you there are some that are just evil to the core, probably biology at play.

But some... Could probably cut in half

Reasons Kids Join Gangs
Unstable/broken home.
Economic instability.
Low education attainment and expectations.
Family members in a gang.
Neglect by one or both parents.
Violence in the home or in the community, directed at the child.
Alcoholism and or drug abuse by one or both of the parents.

John,

300 beasts on two planes is not a wide cast net. That should be a fairly easy sort-out.
I doubt that HSI sent any choir boys to CECOT.
I read weeks ago that Maduro would not take them back, so CECOT is a staging area until he does.
They could also deliver them to the Venezuela border and tell them to walk east.

Due Process is an issue, although I am not accustomed to liberals worrying about due process.
However Trump has declared TDA a terrorist organization.
The US declared a "war on terror" for years now.

Who know how it ends up, but even a guy on MSDNC suggested that Trump could prevail because of the various special powers that a president has.
MSDNC seems to be toning it down. I suspect that they realize that they have been lured into a no-win trap.

Yes these things tend to have more complex roots and various "answers" and are not strictly "black and white"

Good list to think about in that situation FD...and it is likely not exhaustive and could appear in various combinations in one instance

Read up on the history of gangs in El Salvador.
They were combatants in a civil war.
That was their skill set.
After the war they migrated to the Los Angeles, CA in numbers.
Bill Clinton threw them out of the country.
They went back to El Salvador and made the country unlivable.
Bukele suspended parts of the constitution built a huge prison and loaded them in. CECOT
Gang tatoos alone get em thrown in CECOT, no other considerations necessary.
EL Salvaor went from being the most dangerous country in the Western Hemisphere to the safest.

Poverty and unpleasant childhoods aside, all they know is killing and crime, you stop them or they dont stop.

fffff...https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/invocation-of-the-alien-enemies-act-regarding-the-invasion-of-the-united-states-by-tren-de-aragua/
get rid of the leading fffff... and start with the h seems when I post, a youtube link tries to show


Good read....

That is a good read.
I gotta start paying attention there.

Thanks

Marty

Right cause it's too late then. Once they murder someone there's no turning back.

And the easier it gets to do it again.

those kinda gangs I think are more militant than street gangs.

Marty,
thanks for that video. Very good stuff but i don't fully agree with Nick because his focus is just on the American market. The DOW has just gone down by 10%, the German DAX on the other hard is at its highest levels ever today. I kind of have a feeling investors are selling their US stocks and moving the money somewhere else, somewhere safer.

As for the Canadians ... I agree that it is really disgusting that the POTUS is the reason they want to leave the country. I'm not a Canadian, I can't tell you why they think that way.

Good luck with buying your new property.

All the best - Robert

I'm reading that to. The Europeans are mad about Trump and the way that he is handling Ukraine and NATO. That was the reason that I saw given.
A protest current. I also think that Trump and the FED want to bring down the money supply because there appears no other way to bring down inflation, particularly housing and vehicles.

Be careful with that though. It's probably just the mood of the moment. If money starts flowing out again, you could get caught on the bad side of it.

Thanks about the house. It's weird to have arrived at the stage in life where you are likely buying your last house and last truck, but here I am.

Marty

Seems SCOTUS just whacked Trump's knuckles over his calls to remove the Federal judge who is holding the administration to account on the criminal gang plus??? transfers to El Salvador and perhaps elsewhere....

Trump has been through 2 impeachments, one of which was generated by a short phone call in which he asked if Biden's drug addict, bag man son was up to no good.
An FBI raid of his home
Fani Willis and her boyfriend.
Jack-off...the dude that looks like a Mormon preacher who would have ordered the Mountain Meadow Massacre.
Alvin Bragg and Leticia James and Judge Juan Merchan

TRUMP was elected for tossing turds at judges. He was elected because of their prosecutions. They morphed him into Trumpenstein.

After all that, do you really think that Trump GAF about Robert's admonition.
That's just some teaser for the TDS afflicted.

Not sure what you are claiming Marty. Roberts clearly rebuked Trump for his attack on the judge

Tell me when this has ever happened...where SCOTUS has spoken out like this.

John,

Did this not already happen to Trump in his last term. Maybe it wasn't Roberts, but some other judge.

This type of thing is what Trump does in between eating breakfast and brushing his teeth.

Here are some facts to consider:

He is the president and the head of the executive branch. If he wants to insult a judge, the 1st amendment allows it.
No one cares except the TDS afflicted. You all have been running up the score on such as this for a decade and the unintended consequences were that you made Trump sympathetic to onlookers that voted him back in.

Trump sent 2 plane loads of beasts out of the country that Biden provided easy entry to, and Trump spared countless victims of robbery, rape and murder that agony.

How do I weigh that against what Roberts and this activist judge think?


Think about it John. Think about many women being raped, beaten and tortured. Now, compare that to whatever Trump's insult was.

And truthfully, I think that the district judge over-reached.

First off John Roberts is not any judge but the Head Judge of SCOTUS and therefore the USA.

If you poopoo his rebuke or see it just another day in the office in getting illegals out, then your end justifies the means argument simply descends us into the age when strong men ruled and the weak endured.
It is why political systems evolved and laws were invented.

Totally get they did awful things Americans will be spared from and the USA is better off without them
Totally get there are many Americans glad he did this the way he did and it was an election promise kept

But John Roberts and his SCOTUS have allowed him to grow Presidential power which he is exercising and being rebuked for in this particular instance

Robert's rebuke is important (LOL may even go down in history as Robert's Rebuke with its own Wikipedia Page and everything) .
Your argument of victims spared is also important to victims, their families and communities and they must feel safer

But Trump over reached. His words as President matter. As a private citizen I expect his free speech protection was intact.
As President there are larger considerations and issues at play where his words matter more
I am glad Roberts is reminding him of this


Oh and your free speech argument is flawed because in Trump's case it is limited by the responsibilities of his office, by tradition and law.
He is an individual American with private citizen free speech protect rights when he is a private citizen
He is not both.

THE HILL...

(("Chief Justice John Roberts issued a rare public statement Tuesday pushing back after President Trump called to impeach a federal judge that ruled against his administration in a high-profile deportation case.

“For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision. The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose,” Roberts said.

The chief justice’s statement came hours after Trump called for impeaching U.S. District Judge James Boasberg, an appointee of former President Obama who blocked Trump invoking the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to swiftly deport Venezuelan migrants the administration has labeled as gang members.

The plaintiffs have questioned whether Trump officials complied with the judge’s Saturday order to turn any planes around, sparking a remarkable battle between the administration and the judiciary.

“This Radical Left Lunatic of a Judge, a troublemaker and agitator who was sadly appointed by Barack Hussein Obama, was not elected President – He didn’t WIN the popular VOTE (by a lot!), he didn’t WIN ALL SEVEN SWING STATES, he didn’t WIN 2,750 to 525 Counties, HE DIDN’T WIN ANYTHING!” Trump wrote on Truth Social.

The president went on to explicitly call for the judge’s impeachment.

“This judge, like many of the Crooked Judges’ I am forced to appear before, should be IMPEACHED!!! WE DON’T WANT VICIOUS, VIOLENT, AND DEMENTED CRIMINALS, MANY OF THEM DERANGED MURDERERS, IN OUR COUNTRY. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!” the president wrote.

Trump has long attacked judges whom he perceives as his enemies, but Tuesday’s comments mark some of his sharpest yet since returning to the White House for a second term.

Roberts’s pushback, which did not name the president, echoes a statement the chief justice issued in 2018 after Trump denounced a judge who ruled against one of his immigration policies as a biased, “Obama judge.”

“We do not have Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judges. What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them,” Roberts said at the time.

As Trump again attacks judges he views as unfavorable, Republican lawmakers have aimed to impeach Boasberg and several other judges who have blocked Trump administration policies.

“This isn’t a disagreement concerning a judicial decision — this is a full-on, broad-based effort of radical judges to stop President Trump and the mandate he received from the American people to carry out his agenda,” Rep. Eli Crane (R-Ariz.), one of the lawmakers who has introduced impeachment articles, said in response to Roberts’s statement.""))
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THIS CASE ISN'T ANYTHING BUT LEFTOVER "ANTI-TRUMP CAMPAIGN" LAWFARE AND MEDIA MUDSLINGING! The SCOTUS is where politics is supposed to STOP!
Trump is right, ALL THESE RADICAL LEFTIST LAWYERS AND JUDGES SHOULD BE IMPEACHED AND TRIED FOR TREASON!

THE DAY THE COURTS CAN LEGALLY SUBVERT THE WILL OF THE VOTING POPULOUS, FOR ANY REASON... FREE SOCIETY, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE WILL DIE!

Civil Wars are started for much less...

John,

Since 2016, we have all lived in Trump World. Even the 4 years that he was out of office.
He does what he does. He isn't going stop.

I am glad to see that you have so much respect for the words of the "conservative" head of SCOTUS. I'll remind you of that in the future.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, it's a new era, no one will even remember that this happened in a month.

As far as strong men etc,
democracy's greatest enemy is the collective morality of the governed. When that turns to SH+t, as it has, it opens the door for criminals and the strong men who promise to stop them. And then ordinary people have to choose between personal safety, law and order, and concerns about notions of "democracy"...as defined by John the Canadian?

Biden and Harris were "DEFENDERS OF DEMOCRACY." Trump is trying to remove the lethal predators from our lives that their vision of democracy allowed close to us.

QUESTION:
Of the presidents and candidates, who is actually the greater threat to democracy?

ps...the US is a representative republic. I do not have a direct vote in what congress spends money on.

I can confirm that Europeans didn't like Trump in 2016 and surely don't like him this time around. His approval rating in Germany is around 10%. Germans don't trust rich politicians.

Controlling the money supply is the FED's job, not Trump's. The FED currently doesn't see any inflation problems. Rates have been going down, Inflation as well. Experts say these tariffs could turn things around again. The dollar has really gotten weak these past few days.

Regarding the house, I know what it's like. We said this was the last house we were ever going to build. We just bought a new car ... probably also the last one we'll ever buy. Scary, in a way.

Rob,
That is not true. The most current reporting month has inflation under 3%, but the FED remains worried about it because of the US economic condition at this time.
I'm not going to debate things that I know not to be true. That's time wasted.

Beyond that;

I know nothing about Germany other than a handful of things that I've seen in the media stating that their economy was in trouble. KTM bankrupted so I did a little reading on that. Though Austrian, there was mention of regional concerns in some of what I saw.

I also know that the Nazi invasion of Russia and the subsequent Battle of Stalingrad... and the subsequent invasion and partition of Germany by the Russians... was not even 100 years ago...and that such animosities don't go all the way away. That makes both the Germans and Russians particularly prickly and adamant when it comes to a peace deal after a recent Russian invasion. That is undoubtedly tainting the German view of Trump, in addition to his insistence that the EU pay up for NATO participation.

And from what little I have seen, Germany has its own internal conflicts and struggles with the rightward swing on the Western Civilization pendulum.

Marty

Marty, don't conflate my respect for position with respect for the person occupying the office.

When the Head of SCOTUS rebukes a President, that to me at least is important.

Perhaps with our longer history and traditions we are more respectful and aware of position vs person.

John

The US is factionalized and badly divided. Trump is not a cause. He is part of a global effect.
Insults in the US political history are not unknown at all. We had a civil war. The current times are the good old days compared to that.

Nonetheless, the fabric of our society has currently become so polarized and divided, that discourse has coarsened.
Never forget that the US just elected a guy that you hate, but we have had a decade to scrutinize him intensely, with your constant illumination of every little thing that you regard as a misstep..

Trump said that the judge was an a-hole and should be impeached.
Roberts responded by asserting the integrity of the entire judicial branch.

Prioritizing that...is being lost in the trees.

The forest is the many criminal circumstances that led to this exchange. The forest is the screams of women being raped by thousands of people allowed to flow into the country by an administration that refused to stop it, and always could have. Just as Trump has done.
Trump is building a wall.
Biden was selling it off for scrap just to impede Trump.

At this point, worrying about Trump's discourse is almost Victorian and irrelevant. It's 2025. A lot of things have become badly disordered.