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Very "Dylan-esque"  "Just Out Of Reach" sounds GREAT!
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME HERE... CANCEL CULTURE IS ALIVE AND WELL @JPF! YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DELETED...
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Very "Dylan-esque"  "Just Out Of Reach" sounds GREAT! "Just Out Of Reach" sound great because I'm not playing and singing!
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A song like this invites political comment, but I'll try to avoid that and stick to the song itself.  I get what Tony says with "Dylanesque." To me, this has a kind of Woody Guthrie feel to it, musically, which clashes uncomfortably with the lyric with its talk of "devils," "traitors" and "turncoats," "blood" and "glory.". In tone, it's more "Horst Wessell Lied" than "This Land Is Your Land," It sounded strange in my ear, a kind of cognitive dissonance. I'll give it another listen and see if that's just due to the initial surprise at this unusual combination.
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I hate pointless foreign wars with sh*t rules of engagement and fear the cartels and the criminal free-for-all that has been the border. And I despised Biden and Harris for blatantly letting these criminals come in and live largely uncontested in my city. I had a personal experience with MS13 in a gentrifying neighborhood where I was building a spec house. And I agree with everything that I have heard Trump say about foreign trade imbalances. As a result, I like what Trump is doing.
But there will be mistakes and unfortunate circumstances, such as some kid catching a bullet in an ICE raid. Rest assured that Trump's opposition is hoping for that. Those things will fuel a backlash. My suggestion is not to get inebriated on Trump's EOs and throw a party. That will also fuel a backlash. My suggestion...just be glad and quietly watch. The dims thought that they had a lock on DEI and they got drunk on it. Don't be like the dims.
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A song like this invites political comment, but I'll try to avoid that and stick to the song itself.  I get what Tony says with "Dylanesque." To me, this has a kind of Woody Guthrie feel to it, musically, which clashes uncomfortably with the lyric with its talk of "devils," "traitors" and "turncoats," "blood" and "glory.". In tone, it's more "Horst Wessell Lied" than "This Land Is Your Land," It sounded strange in my ear, a kind of cognitive dissonance. I'll give it another listen and see if that's just due to the initial surprise at this unusual combination. Hi Gavin..... "devils" I must say, might be a stretch. But the "traitors" are all of those who took our votes and our trust and turned them into their personal bank rolls. The "turncoats" are all those that pulled out their proverbial knives when the going got rough. But of course, one man's traitor or turncoat is another's hero. I'm very, very glad you found this different.... we have enough writers who love using the same old formulas. Thanks, again! And BTW....never heard of "Horst Wessell Lied" and that is pretty off base Gavin to link my song to Naziism. Let's try to keep this civil. You don't have to post on this thread if it bothers you too much. it is only a song, after all. If you have a problem with my sentiment, just take a mirror to your own democrat party. Here is a link to what many in your party are saying: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-trump-shut-down-the-city-we-are-at-war/
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I hate pointless foreign wars with sh*t rules of engagement and fear the cartels and the criminal free-for-all that has been the border. And I despised Biden and Harris for blatantly letting these criminals come in and live largely uncontested in my city. I had a personal experience with M13 in a gentrifying neighborhood where I was building a spec house. And I agree with everything that I have heard Trump say about foreign trade imbalances. As a result, I like what Trump is doing.
But there will be mistakes and unfortunate circumstances, such as some kid catching a bullet in an ICE raid. Rest assured that Trump's opposition is hoping for that. Those things will fuel a backlash. My suggestion is not to get inebriated on Trump's EOs and throw a party. That will also fuel a backlash. My suggestion...just be glad and quietly watch. The dims thought that they had a lock on DEI and they got drunk on it. Don't be like the dims. Hey there Sunset....an underlying theme to this song is to always remain focused and vigilant. And that includes, VERY much so, Trump and his administration. It's America first, and no one person or administration. Thanks for posting.
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Well you knew it would trigger people , that's what political songs do , piss people off Kinda sounds like Dylan man , good job Tom
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Well you knew it would trigger people , that's what political songs do , piss people off Kinda sounds like Dylan man , good job Tom Thanks, bennash! It's always nice hearing from you. Yeah.....piss off some, and elate others. What more can a guy want?
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I didn't say you were a Nazi. I'm sure you're not. What I meant is that the strident, militant tone and some of the imagery is similar to that song in style, which it is. It immediately made me think of it. But you're right, I should have known better than to use that particular example, so I apologize for the offense.
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Well you knew it would trigger people , that's what political songs do , piss people off Kinda sounds like Dylan man , good job Tom Thanks, bennash! It's always nice hearing from you. Yeah.....piss off some, and elate others. What more can a guy want? Right , way it works ,Nazi is a bit dated term. right along with some politician is the 666 guy
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I didn't say you were a Nazi. I'm sure you're not. What I meant is that the strident, militant tone and some of the imagery is similar to that song in style, which it is. It immediately made me think of it. But you're right, I should have known better than to use that particular example, so I apologize for the offense. Hi Gavin.... No, I'm not a Nazi. And although you didn't directly call me one, just the association is nauseating. I hates 'dem Nazi's....and roaches. Disgusting. We've thrown around those kinds of words around so much that they've almost lost their meaning. However, with that said, the spread of communism is more a threat here and around the world than any Nazi, skin-head movement. And I don't believe you are a Nazi, or a communist, either. We are just a couple of guys writing and sharing songs. "Let's Make....Again" is a dramatization painted with the colors of our great American Revolution. Now, that's not to say we aren't in a war, so to speak. We are in a war of words, narratives, and belief systems. We are in a war as to how our children are to be taught....and frankly, who owns our children. Our children belong to the ones who brought them into the world, and to the ones that take care of them and feed them. That right there opposes Nazi ideology. Anyways......no hard feelings. You are a good man. I've heard that term thrown at others that were definitely not Nazis.......without any apologies or remorse. Nazi's and Commies....roaches, one and all!
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Well you knew it would trigger people , that's what political songs do , piss people off Kinda sounds like Dylan man , good job Tom Thanks, bennash! It's always nice hearing from you. Yeah.....piss off some, and elate others. What more can a guy want? Right , way it works ,Nazi is a bit dated term. right along with some politician is the 666 guy Yeah....when I hear the word Nazi, I have nothing but black and white images of crazy men goose stepping with their arms out to block the sun from their eyes. I guess they don't want to step on any snakes. While Nazis and devils are real...... we need to take care with where we point the finger.
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Hey Tom, great song, I love it. You know, if I had heard this song in the 70s or 80s I could have really related to it. But times have changed. Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against making America great again. But if that means we have to steal Greenland away from Europe with military force, we have to take control of the Panama Canal just because our President has a hotel there and was charged for evading millions of dollars of taxes, we buy Gaza (why would we want to buy land in Palestine with American taxpayer money?), forcing Canada to become a US state even though they don't want to, then I’m not sure about the message of your song. When you write “If the cause is worth our blood to defend” I’m thinking … what are we defending when we take over Greenland from a close ally? We are becoming aggressors, taking land and resources away from other countries. Is that the way we will make America great again? The devils here and on Capitol Hill that you mentioned … umm, do you mean the Republicans? You know, they are in charge now. Your lyrics are full of war-like actions (fighting, blood, battles, war, devils and traitors). I actually wish we could make America great again without all of that. This sounds as if people will have to die in order for America to become great again. Like I said, in this day and age the message of your song is different than years ago. Well, that's the way I see it.
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Hey Tom, great song, I love it. You know, if I had heard this song in the 70s or 80s I could have really related to it. But times have changed. Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against making America great again. But if that means we have to steal Greenland away from Europe with military force, we have to take control of the Panama Canal just because our President has a hotel there and was charged for evading millions of dollars of taxes, we buy Gaza (why would we want to buy land in Palestine with American taxpayer money?), forcing Canada to become a US state even though they don't want to, then I’m not sure about the message of your song. When you write “If the cause is worth our blood to defend” I’m thinking … what are we defending when we take over Greenland from a close ally? We are becoming aggressors, taking land and resources away from other countries. Is that the way we will make America great again? The devils here and on Capitol Hill that you mentioned … umm, do you mean the Republicans? You know, they are in charge now. Your lyrics are full of war-like actions (fighting, blood, battles, war, devils and traitors). I actually wish we could make America great again without all of that. This sounds as if people will have to die in order for America to become great again. Like I said, in this day and age the message of your song is different than years ago. Well, that's the way I see it.
All the best - Robert Hey there Rob, thanks for commenting. Everything you are saying has some truth to it. But you have to realize you are listening to bits and pieces of the truth. You aren't hearing the complete arguments. I'll only address one of your concerns: The USA is not going to take Greenland by military force. That fear has been intentionally rumored by our wonderful news media. For the rest of your concerns, I ask you to watch and see. People can talk and talk and talk, stirring up fear and loathing. It's a tactic. And as far as "the devils are here and on Capitol Hill"... I say yes.....both republicans and democrats can fill those hooved like shoes. The people who voted MAGA are interested in making America great again, not in taking over countries. We are all interested in stopping war, not starting them. Anyways, that's how I see it, here in America. I have eyes on the ground. All I can ask from you is to watch and see. Take care and God bless, -Tom
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Rights going to love it. left is going to hate it
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Hey there Rob, thanks for commenting. Everything you are saying has some truth to it. But you have to realize you are listening to bits and pieces of the truth. You aren't hearing the complete arguments. I'll only address one of your concerns: The USA is not going to take Greenland by military force. That fear has been intentionally rumored by our wonderful news media. For the rest of your concerns, I ask you to watch and see. People can talk and talk and talk, stirring up fear and loathing. It's a tactic.
And as far as "the devils are here and on Capitol Hill"... I say yes.....both republicans and democrats can fill those hooved like shoes.
The people who voted MAGA are interested in making America great again, not in taking over countries. We are all interested in stopping war, not starting them.
Anyways, that's how I see it, here in America. I have eyes on the ground. All I can ask from you is to watch and see.
Take care and God bless, -Tom Well, you say the USA is not going to take Greenland by military force. I hope you’re right because our President said he wouldn’t rule that out. Tom, please don’t blame the press. Blame Mr. Trump. You can watch him on video saying that. If you didn’t see him say it, then you aren’t hearing the complete arguments. Can you imagine what the Danish people (and the rest of Europe) thought of America when he said that? As for some of my other points, it’s not just talk, talk, talk. I’m being personally affected by one of his new executive orders. I don’t want to go into details here anymore. But I fully agree with you that most Americans are not interested in America taking over parts of foreign countries and starting wars. It looks like our President doesn’t care what we are interested in. The big question will be … who will stop him from invading these countries. But back to your song. It’s very good. I just think the timing isn’t perfect. All the best - Robert
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Hey there Rob, thanks for commenting. Everything you are saying has some truth to it. But you have to realize you are listening to bits and pieces of the truth. You aren't hearing the complete arguments. I'll only address one of your concerns: The USA is not going to take Greenland by military force. That fear has been intentionally rumored by our wonderful news media. For the rest of your concerns, I ask you to watch and see. People can talk and talk and talk, stirring up fear and loathing. It's a tactic.
And as far as "the devils are here and on Capitol Hill"... I say yes.....both republicans and democrats can fill those hooved like shoes.
The people who voted MAGA are interested in making America great again, not in taking over countries. We are all interested in stopping war, not starting them.
Anyways, that's how I see it, here in America. I have eyes on the ground. All I can ask from you is to watch and see.
Take care and God bless, -Tom Well, you say the USA is not going to take Greenland by military force. I hope you’re right because our President said he wouldn’t rule that out. Tom, please don’t blame the press. Blame Mr. Trump. You can watch him on video saying that. If you didn’t see him say it, then you aren’t hearing the complete arguments. Can you imagine what the Danish people (and the rest of Europe) thought of America when he said that? As for some of my other points, it’s not just talk, talk, talk. I’m being personally affected by one of his new executive orders. I don’t want to go into details here anymore. But I fully agree with you that most Americans are not interested in America taking over parts of foreign countries and starting wars. It looks like our President doesn’t care what we are interested in. The big question will be … who will stop him from invading these countries. But back to your song. It’s very good. I just think the timing isn’t perfect. All the best - Robert OK.....I'll believe it when I see it.
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Hey there Rob, thanks for commenting. Everything you are saying has some truth to it. But you have to realize you are listening to bits and pieces of the truth. You aren't hearing the complete arguments. I'll only address one of your concerns: The USA is not going to take Greenland by military force. That fear has been intentionally rumored by our wonderful news media. For the rest of your concerns, I ask you to watch and see. People can talk and talk and talk, stirring up fear and loathing. It's a tactic.
And as far as "the devils are here and on Capitol Hill"... I say yes.....both republicans and democrats can fill those hooved like shoes.
The people who voted MAGA are interested in making America great again, not in taking over countries. We are all interested in stopping war, not starting them.
Anyways, that's how I see it, here in America. I have eyes on the ground. All I can ask from you is to watch and see.
Take care and God bless, -Tom Well, you say the USA is not going to take Greenland by military force. I hope you’re right because our President said he wouldn’t rule that out. Tom, please don’t blame the press. Blame Mr. Trump. You can watch him on video saying that. If you didn’t see him say it, then you aren’t hearing the complete arguments. Can you imagine what the Danish people (and the rest of Europe) thought of America when he said that? As for some of my other points, it’s not just talk, talk, talk. I’m being personally affected by one of his new executive orders. I don’t want to go into details here anymore. But I fully agree with you that most Americans are not interested in America taking over parts of foreign countries and starting wars. It looks like our President doesn’t care what we are interested in. The big question will be … who will stop him from invading these countries. But back to your song. It’s very good. I just think the timing isn’t perfect. All the best - Robert OK.....I'll believe it when I see it. To late for that , Trumps nuts , he should be in a mental hospital for the rich. What's funny you guys actually think politicians give a shite about us .
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Yes the "times are a chang'n" again. However, it's sort of flipped! I dig your song, kind of a tribute to Dylan as well.
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OK.....I'll believe it when I see it. Tom, it's happening right now and you're not seeing it. He's overturning the government, throwing everybody out. That's what dictators do. He's got most of the rich business leaders on his side because he promised to cut their taxes. He's giving highly confidential information about the government and each of us to private people, some are active in the Dark Net. Don't you see what is already happening? The American people voted for him among other things because he promised to bring prices down on day one. Now he's saying his tariffs could make life in America even more expensive. During his campaign he didn't mention that was going after Canada, Greenland, Gaza and Panama. He's not the President the American people voted for. I think Elvis is right. It's too late to stop him. We've given him too much power. He has the military behind him. Nobody can stop him. We'll see what happens. Your song could be spot on in 4 years from now.
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Yes the "times are a chang'n" again. However, it's sort of flipped! I dig your song, kind of a tribute to Dylan as well.
steady-eddie Thanks, Steady....it was a fun write! OK.....I'll believe it when I see it. Tom, it's happening right now and you're not seeing it. He's overturning the government, throwing everybody out. That's what dictators do. He's got most of the rich business leaders on his side because he promised to cut their taxes. He's giving highly confidential information about the government and each of us to private people, some are active in the Dark Net. Don't you see what is already happening? The American people voted for him among other things because he promised to bring prices down on day one. Now he's saying his tariffs could make life in America even more expensive. During his campaign he didn't mention that was going after Canada, Greenland, Gaza and Panama. He's not the President the American people voted for. I think Elvis is right. It's too late to stop him. We've given him too much power. He has the military behind him. Nobody can stop him. We'll see what happens. Your song could be spot on in 4 years from now. Rob, with all due respect, you are sitting there in Germany, telling me what is happening here in the USA. Really? I live here and I am watching the news every day and closely. In fact, I've been watching the news VERY closely for over 30 years. But I get it. You think you are getting the unfiltered truth. Really... I get it. We could go on and on and on.... you aren't going to change your mind, and neither am I, unless the common sense and reality of Trump's presidency dictate that change of mind. You've made your opinions clear. I think I've made mine. I don't want this thread to escalate into nasty territory. Take care and God bless.
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Tom, I live in Cape Coral, Florida. Sorry, if I upset you. That was not my intention.
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Tom, I live in Cape Coral, Florida. Sorry, if I upset you. That was not intention. No, I'm not upset. I just don't want these arguments to go on forever. Because of the media, you see it your way and I see it my way. That is how it is. And your Bio listed you from Germany. Did you just change it? Anyways.... take care Rob.
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Tom, yes, I forgot to update my profile. I travel a lot.
I've been following your music for years. Not just here at this site. I'm a big fan of your music.
You advised me to watch and see. If Trump doesn't come after me, I'll do that.
Take care Robert
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Americas been great
Always has been.
The problem for the song is other than lets make America great again line, there's nothing in it that says what woukd make it great
.without the maga line nobody would know what your talking about.
Defend what?
There’s no time for wasting the time that we have. Bandage the wounded; lay thick the salve. The battle was won, but the war presses on. Make ready, you Captains; it’s only begun. And it’s a matter not of if, but when. Our hearts may buckle and bend, But if the cause is worth our blood to defend, Let’s Make America Great Again. make it great...
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Americas been great
Always has been.
The problem for the song is other than lets make America great again line, there's nothing in it that says what woukd make it great
.without the maga line nobody would know what your talking about.
Defend what?
There’s no time for wasting the time that we have. Bandage the wounded; lay thick the salve. The battle was won, but the war presses on. Make ready, you Captains; it’s only begun. And it’s a matter not of if, but when. Our hearts may buckle and bend, But if the cause is worth our blood to defend, Let’s Make America Great Again. make it great... Well... there are those in America that have stated that "America was never that great" Ex-Gov, Cuomo of NY said that himself. The first verse pretty much picks up after Trump's 2024 election victory. It warns that while MAGA won a great victory, the war has only begun. Defend from what, you ask? LOL..... well, if you don't know, there isn't much of a point arguing any muse or opinion I might present. Let's just say from and against the "devils, the traitors and the turncoats within". And I do agree.... however, while America has always been great, there are those in America who carry the banner "Build Back Better" Do yourself a favor and look that one up. And then research its origins. Have a good night, and God bless.
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Only an idiot would say America was never that great,and a bigger idiot that it's suddenly great, now
But for purposes of song...
But if the cause is worth our blood to defend, Let’s Make America Great Again. make it great
What blood are you Shedding to make America great again?
Who are you defending against Dems verse Republicans?
Take the maga line out and see if anybody knows what it's about.
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OK...you don't like the song. Let's move on,
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It's not a bad song, it has one conviction in it, I just don't think it's clear, linking several ideas that don't necessarily work together.
But we can still move on
Last edited by Fdemetrio; 02/10/25 11:36 PM.
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I should have read you opening comments better. Now your lyrics make sense to me. This is about the MAGA movement. The battle, the war on January 6, the fierce fight between the supporters and the police, the bloodshed, the deaths, and traitors like Mike Pence that they wanted to hang. You did a pretty good job describing that movement. Well-written.
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Wisdom just keeps writing itself.....
""clashes uncomfortably cognitive dissonance pointless foreign wars rules of engagement criminals uncontested inebriated backlash devils traitors bank rolls turncoats proverbial knives traitor hero Naziism sentiment underlying theme focused and vigilant trigger strident militant dramatization, painted narratives children black and white images crazy men goose stepping point the finger people will have to die bits and pieces of the truth hooved like shoes eyes on the ground times are a chang'n flipped That's what dictators do unfiltered truth, common sense reality opinions clear Defend what we can still move on""
Uncomfortable clashes of cognitive dissonance And pointless foreign wars Rules of engagement and uncontested crime Turncoats and bankrolls Strident sentimental traitorous heroes Brandish proverbial knives A focused underlying vigilant theme For trigger-happy militant minds
The elite will never understand Thank God for republicans
Dramatizations and childish painted narratives Black and white ideologies Crazy goose stepping cartoon characters Live and let die psychology Common ignorance and twisted filtered truth pointing fingers at opposition Eyes on the lies as reality dies Cult of flipped opinions
They want anarchy on demand Thank God for republicans
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We’re all built from the same dust and dreams, Different roads, but the same means.
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Wisdom just keeps writing itself..... Japov... You really should take sleep deprivation seriously. 
Last edited by IronKnee; 02/11/25 10:42 AM.
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ha ha ha , probably drugs. Hitlers wisdom, Brainwashing at its finest in the South. No surprise Tony steals the post and Dom hates the song .
Last edited by bennash; 02/11/25 01:20 PM.
We’re all built from the same dust and dreams, Different roads, but the same means.
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I should have read you opening comments better. Now your lyrics make sense to me. This is about the MAGA movement. The battle, the war on January 6, the fierce fight between the supporters and the police, the bloodshed, the deaths, and traitors like Mike Pence that they wanted to hang. You did a pretty good job describing that movement. Well-written. Rob... The human mind is an amazing and terrifying thing. It can find dirt in the purist snow and can twist itself through cracks and crevasses that a snake would envy. The human imagination can wring water from the dryest desert sand. I'm, at the very least, honored that you take the time to read this song. Thank you.
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Wisdom just keeps writing itself..... Japov... You really should take sleep deprivation seriously.  I "Power-Nap"... 
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME HERE... CANCEL CULTURE IS ALIVE AND WELL @JPF! YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DELETED...
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