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Trump just declassified the JFK/MLK assassination records... I suspect there's going to be a lot of speculation regarding the racial bias of Lyndon B Johnson and the Democrat Party.
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Can you point to the actual source of your news? How you went to your conclusion is beyond me except I suspect your just another point of view is designed to provoke. So provoke on. Don't let me interrupt 
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Can you point to the actual source of your news? How you went to your conclusion is beyond me except I suspect your just another point of view is designed to provoke. So provoke on. Don't let me interrupt  Lol... It was one of Trump's latest executive orders. As far as my own opinion is concerned, just consider it another "Occam's Razor" moment... compliments of JAPOV 
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Dang you are plugged in. I woke ...yup I'm woke....up this am to the news.
I'd looked for the story last night when you posted.
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Dang you are plugged in. I woke ...yup I'm woke....up this am to the news.
I'd looked for the story last night when you posted. Read the Bible, watch FOX News, play guitar 
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January 2025 | Volume 54, Issue 1 What We Know and What We Don’t About January 6
John Daniel Davidson Senior Editor, The Federalist The following is adapted from a talk delivered at a Hillsdale College luncheon in Anchorage, Alaska, on January 22, 2025.
Just hours after his inauguration on January 20, President Trump pardoned more than 1,500 people convicted of offenses related to the events of January 6, 2021. He commuted the sentences of fourteen additional people whose cases for a full pardon are still under review.
Earlier that morning, to less fanfare, President Biden had issued “preemptive pardons”—a type of presidential pardon with no historical precedent—to all the members and staff of the House Select Committee on January 6 and to all the U.S. Capitol and D.C. Metropolitan police officers who testified before that committee.
What could better illustrate that what happened at the U.S. Capitol on January 6 has become a political Rorschach test on which Americans remain deeply divided?
Partisans on the Left accept the official narrative of the Democrats and the corporate press, believing that January 6 amounted to an insurrection and a violent attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
Partisans on the Right believe that however bad the events of that day were, the federal government’s reaction has been even worse, amounting to a weaponization of the Department of Justice to criminalize certain political views.
Many ordinary Americans are left wondering what to believe. With those Americans in mind, it is helpful to sift through what we have learned about January 6 over the past four years—and to note the things that we still don’t know.
The official report of the House Select Committee, which runs to more than 800 pages, is too deeply biased to give much help. This was foreordained given the hyper-partisan way the Select Committee was formed. Then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi rejected then-House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s two Republican appointments to the committee—Representatives Jim Jordan and Jim Banks—and instead appointed two virulently anti-Trump Republicans, Representatives Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger.
The Select Committee’s report, issued in December 2022, omitted important information about January 6 and failed to address many lingering questions about the government’s role and response. Its partisan (and specifically anti-Trump) purpose can be deduced from its recommendations: that the Department of Justice pursue criminal charges against Trump and that Congress bar Trump from ever again holding federal office.
In some instances, the Select Committee showed a blatant disregard for facts. It claimed, for example, that Trump was aware of violence at the Capitol for more than three hours—187 minutes, to be exact—before he took action to intervene. Cheney referred to this as a “supreme dereliction of duty.” But in fact, according to a timeline of events compiled by The New York Times (and corroborated by The Washington Post), no more than 25 minutes passed between the reported breach of the Capitol at 2:13 p.m. and Trump’s first tweet addressing the situation at 2:38 p.m., when he wrote, “Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!” About 30 minutes later, Trump again took to Twitter to address the demonstrators: “I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order—respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!”
More important than the report’s factual errors are the serious questions never investigated by the Select Committee. Why did Democrat congressional leaders turn down repeated offers of National Guard troops to protect the Capitol that day? Why was security so lax outside the Capitol despite expectations of a large demonstration? How many FBI informants and other undercover federal law enforcement officials were in the crowd? What communication did the FBI or FBI informants have with protest organizers ahead of the event? Why wasn’t then-Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund told there were federal informants in the crowd? Why did the U.S. Capitol Police open the doors and allow demonstrators into the building? Why did federal law enforcement authorities demand cell phone location data for the thousands of people who were outside the Capitol but broke no laws? Why does the FBI still have no idea who planted the pipe bombs near the headquarters of the Republican National Committee and the Democratic National Committee on the evening of January 5?
Defenders of the official narrative accuse those who ask such questions of being conspiracists. But until those questions are answered, our understanding of January 6—no matter our political leanings—will be incomplete.
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Here is what we know happened. On the morning of January 6, 2021, tens of thousands of Trump supporters gathered for a rally on The Ellipse, a park south of the White House, to show support for the President and protest what they believed were irregularities and election fraud that marred the 2020 election. Trump addressed the crowd and then encouraged them to march to the U.S. Capitol to protest “peacefully and patriotically.” Trump never incited the audience or suggested anything other than peaceful demonstrations. Indeed, many of those present at The Ellipse had applied for and been issued permits by the Capitol Police to stage events and host speakers on the U.S. Capitol grounds that day—a common enough occurrence in Washington, D.C.
Before Trump had even finished speaking, a separate and much smaller group had already gathered at the Capitol and breached the first set of outdoor barriers. As the main body of peaceful demonstrators made their way from The Ellipse to the U.S. Capitol grounds, confrontations between this smaller group and Capitol Police were already underway, and eventually a riot ensued. The demonstrators marching toward the Capitol had no way of knowing what was underway while they were still at The Ellipse watching Trump speak. And owing to the size of the Capitol grounds—some 23 acres—it was unclear to many, even upon arriving at the Capitol, what was happening.
Much of what we have learned about this is from more than 40,000 hours of security footage that had been kept under seal by House Democrat leadership and excluded from the Select Committee’s inquiry. This security video was released to Tucker Carlson by Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy after Republicans took over the majority in the House in the 2022 midterms. Among other things, it shows clearly that after the chaos had subsided, U.S. Capitol Police were ushering people into the building. One must presume that many of those who entered the Capitol during this period were unaware of the earlier clashes with police and assumed—because police were waving demonstrators along and, in some cases, even escorting them—that they were allowed to be there.
The video released by McCarthy included footage of Jacob Chansley, the “QAnon Shaman” who became the face of the “insurrection” in the media and who was sentenced, in the fall of 2021, to 41 months in federal prison. As many as nine police officers calmly escorted Chansley around the Capitol complex, at several points even checking for unlocked doors for him. They did not try to hinder, let alone apprehend him. It also included footage showing Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick, who died on January 7, 2021, walking around and apparently healthy on January 6. A month after his death, the Washington, D.C. medical examiner issued a report concluding that Sicknick died of natural causes. To this day, Democrats and the corporate press cite Sicknick’s death as evidence of their narrative, claiming he died due to blunt force trauma to the head with a fire extinguisher. The security footage withheld by the Select Committee clearly indicates that this never happened.
The video also raised questions about who was responsible for failing to provide adequate police protection for the Capitol. That such a relatively small group of rioters managed to breach the Capitol is an indictment of those responsible for providing for its security—namely, Speaker Pelosi and Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser.
Barred from participating in the Select Committee, House Republicans conducted their own probe and released a 140-page report in December 2022. It blamed “leadership and law enforcement failures” for making the Capitol vulnerable and accused former House Sergeant at Arms Paul Irving of being “compromised by politics,” coordinating with Pelosi and her staff while leaving Republican lawmakers out of security discussions and planning. The report also claimed that Democratic leaders were concerned about the “optics” of deploying the National Guard in response to the riot in the aftermath of the Black Lives Matter riots during the summer of 2020.
Perhaps most puzzling of all was the Capitol Police Board’s failure to request National Guard assistance prior to January 6, which, according to a separate bipartisan Senate report, meant that “the District of Columbia National Guard was not activated, staged, and prepared to quickly respond to an attack on the Capitol.” This failure stands out in part because Trump himself, in the days leading up to January 6, was adamant that 10,000 National Guard troops be deployed ahead of that day—a fact Cheney concealed by hiding an interview transcript produced by the Select Committee. Trump’s request for troops was not only ignored by Pelosi and Bowser, it was also met with resistance at the Pentagon, which delayed the deployment of the National Guard and then covered it up.
The House Republican report also found that police officers were “under-trained and ill-equipped to protect the Capitol complex. One officer testified to investigators that he went into the fight . . . with nothing but his USCP-issued baseball cap. Even if every USCP officer had been at work that day, their numbers would still have been insufficient to hold off the rioters due to a lack of training and equipment.”
A December 2024 report from the Justice Department’s Office of the Inspector General (OIG) is also damning on this point. The FBI, which was responsible for canvassing the Capitol grounds for potential security threats or breaches ahead of a major demonstration like the one planned for January 6, failed to do so and gave no reason why. Then-FBI Associate Deputy Director Paul Abbate described the lack of canvassing as a “basic step that was missed” and told the OIG he would have expected a canvassing to have been conducted beforehand through what the FBI calls the issuance of an “intelligence collection product.” Such a product was issued for the January 20 inauguration, but not for January 6.
The OIG report also revealed for the first time that the FBI had 26 confidential human sources, or informants, in the crowd that day. Most of them went on their own initiative, according to the report, and three went into the U.S. Capitol—a crime for which many otherwise law-abiding January 6 defendants were sentenced to lengthy prison terms. Incredibly, one of the FBI informants who entered the Capitol was reimbursed by the FBI for his travel expenses to and from Washington. The idea that the FBI had informants at the Capitol that day was previously denounced as a conspiracy theory.
The disclosure about the 26 informants invites further questions about what other elements of federal law enforcement were present that day and what exactly they were doing. The video released by McCarthy shows that Ray Epps, a man who is suspected of being an FBI informant and who was at the heart of the events of January 6, lied to Congress about his movements. When the Select Committee had him testify in an attempt to clear his name after footage emerged of him urging the crowd to storm the Capitol, Epps told committee members that he never entered the Capitol. He testified that when he texted his nephew at 2:12 p.m. that day, writing that he had “orchestrated the protests at the Capitol,” he was already back at his hotel room. But surveillance footage shows this is not true. Epps remained at the Capitol for half an hour after he sent that text. Members of the committee knew this but never followed up.
The mystery surrounding Epps is in some ways representative of everything we still don’t know about January 6. And to be clear, the reason we do not know is that efforts to get to the truth have been actively thwarted. Until that changes—until we know all the basic facts about that day—Americans will have no reason to be confident that justice has been served.
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No Corona, No Lime, No Guacamole, No Beef Tacos, No Chicken Wings... YOU LIBTARDS SURE KNOW HOW TO PARTY! LMBFWCAO 
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Trump will be interviewed before the game. Wow. This is his address to the world.
What exactly he will say in the interview will be anticipated and talked about, when he says it it will be talked about, and later when he's done it will be talked about Trump just made fun of the fact the US may take Gaza while Netanyahu says he wants to redraw the map of the Middle East. In a related unrelated item, John Kennedy Toole's 1981 canonical piqaresque Pulitzer Prize winning novel set in New Orleans, A Confedary of Dunces, is once again climbing the best seller list
Then at half time Kendrick Lamar which will be a good time to take a break.
What happens after the game ...will Trump be on the podium somehow sharing the win?
And Tony. That rant against tarrifs of Mexican on imports?
Just wait until it costs you 25% more to listen to Michael Buble.
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DOGE! 
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No Corona, No Lime, No Guacamole, No Beef Tacos, No Chicken Wings... YOU LIBTARDS SURE KNOW HOW TO PARTY! LMBFWCAO  Tony you are not so different from the Libtards that you condemn. They lack critical thought because their perception is inescapably anchored down by the Karl-Marx gene. They're going to figure out something to tell themselves to self confirm that way of thinking as correct. Reality is not an obstacle. You, on the other hand, lack critical thought because you are anchored down by the banjo-boy-deliverance-gene, which is another genetic syndrome based on being unable to let go of a diffuse spray of disjointed beliefs. Different jerseys. Same basic human material. Point em at a screen and tell em who to hate, and all good to go. Brave Old World. xoxo
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banjo-boy-deliverance-gene. man that's funny
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No Corona, No Lime, No Guacamole, No Beef Tacos, No Chicken Wings... YOU LIBTARDS SURE KNOW HOW TO PARTY! LMBFWCAO  Tony you are not so different from the Libtards that you condemn. They lack critical thought because their perception is inescapably anchored down by the Karl-Marx gene. They're going to figure out something to tell themselves to self confirm that way of thinking as correct. Reality is not an obstacle. You, on the other hand, lack critical thought because you are anchored down by the banjo-boy-deliverance-gene, which is another genetic syndrome based on being unable to let go of a diffuse spray of disjointed beliefs. Different jerseys. Same basic human material. Point em at a screen and tell em who to hate, and all good to go. Brave Old World. xoxo Read the Bible, Watch FOX news, and REPENT! Don't bother with your guitar, and enjoy your "tofu" Superbowl party 
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It is you who needs to read the bible Tony. And I feel certain that most truly observant Christians would agree with that. Here are a few things to think about. You won't, but you should. You make a poor ambassador for Christianity.
James 1:26: "Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless."
Ephesians 4:29: "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen."
Proverbs 16:28: "A perverse person stirs up conflict, and a gossip separates close friends." Gossip can break down relationships and create animosity.
John 8:7: "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."
Matthew (7:12): "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
Either this is "the truth" proclaimed by the creator of the entire universe, seen and unseen...or its not. You tell me?
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It is you who needs to read the bible Tony. And I feel certain that most truly observant Christians would agree with that. Here are a few things to think about. You won't, but you should. You make a poor ambassador for Christianity. Says the liberal agnostic... James 1:26: "Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless." The Bible is not a "religion"... Ephesians 4:29: "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen." All who deny God are liars... Liars are perfect examples of who not to be. Proverbs 16:28: "A perverse person stirs up conflict, and a gossip separates close friends." Gossip can break down relationships and create animosity. Truth is self evident and my integrity is not subject to agnostic sophistry... John 8:7: "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." How long have you been a prostitute? Matthew (7:12): "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Unless you're a soulless agnostic... Way to go, MartyDom... You turned another thread into a meaningless theological argument. Wouldn't you be happier in a cult?
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Tony
Your integrity is a disjointed joke. It is subject to anyone's measure and will turn up a joke every time.
So you, Tony, are overruling the interpretation of James 1:26....the "written word." That is another fascination.
So you, Tony, have condemned me as someone lacking a soul? My response is John 8:7
btw, I am a conservative agnostic. The thing about clarity and a critical mind is that you search for truth and let the truth evidence itself. You dont impose an interpretation on it. So, people such as me dont fit neatly into cliche and dismissive labels. And no, I would be very unhappy in a cult. Membership in a cult would require giving up the freedom to search for truth...and accepting a dogma. That would be a prison without bars.
Do you play the banjo? Have you ever had an acting role?
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If you two don't knock it off I will turn this website around RIGHT NOW and we can ALL just go back home!!
Peace,
Dave
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David, I dont come around much. I lurked and saw that Tony was handing out political insults again, so I thought I'd drop in and join the fun. For the helluvit. Not gonna be an ongoing thing, but I am on a roll here for possibly an hour or so more if further molested.
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btw, I am a conservative agnostic. The thing about clarity and a critical mind is that you search for truth and let the truth evidence itself. You dont impose an interpretation on it. So, people such as me dont fit neatly into cliche and dismissive labels. And no, I would be very unhappy in a cult. Membership in a cult would require giving up the freedom to search for truth...and accepting a dogma. That would be a prison without bars. Summary; YOU STAND FOR NOTHING.That's your modus operandi... Your false sense of intellectual superiority... The best you can ever do is start and perpetuate an argument by simply assuming a neutral position, then accusing all sides of being at fault. You're no benevolent overseer, MartyDom... You're a sanctimonious prick, A victim of your own conceit, You're boring.
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[ That's your modus operandi... Your false sense of intellectual superiority... The best you can ever do is start and perpetuate an argument by simply assuming a neutral position, then accusing all sides of being at fault.
You're no benevolent overseer, MartyDom... You're a sanctimonious prick, A victim of your own conceit, You're boring. Thanks for evidence that supports what I have stated here Tony. That is the information-less stream of insults and nothingness that is typical of you. As for me, I dont have a false sense of intellectual superiority. My intelligence is or is not, whatever, it is or is not. What you are describing in this diatribe is how you feel about it. Nothing more. I'm not sanctimonious. Look that up. It describes you. per Merriam Webster: "hypocritically pious or devout" And, And...I did not condemn you with baseless knuckle-dragger insults. And your accusation of sophistry? I held a mirror taken from what you say is "the word of God" up against your own behavior and let that measure you. The result is sad and your hypocrisy and obliviousness is a fascination. xoxo
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I second that yawn and propose the meeting be closed.
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No Corona, No Lime, No Guacamole, No Beef Tacos, No Chicken Wings... YOU LIBTARDS SURE KNOW HOW TO PARTY! LMBFWCAO  Tony you are not so different from the Libtards that you condemn. They lack critical thought because their perception is inescapably anchored down by the Karl-Marx gene. They're going to figure out something to tell themselves to self confirm that way of thinking as correct. Reality is not an obstacle. You, on the other hand, lack critical thought because you are anchored down by the banjo-boy-deliverance-gene, which is another genetic syndrome based on being unable to let go of a diffuse spray of disjointed beliefs. Different jerseys. Same basic human material. Point em at a screen and tell em who to hate, and all good to go. Brave Old World. xoxo I second that yawn and propose the meeting be closed. Yeah'... "Closed"... Full Circle...
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Adjourned is the word that I should have used. I hope that our exchange has given you the benefit of seeing some discrepancy between your own behavior and the precepts and dogma that you promote. Church attendance has been falling for a while in the West. It's primary enemies are science and hypocrisy within its membership. The unheard screams of diddled children for 2 millennia is at the top of that list. Walk the walk Tony. The talk without the walk will cause people to dismiss and walk away.
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Adjourned is the word that I should have used. I hope that our exchange has given you the benefit of seeing some discrepancy between your own behavior and the precepts and dogma that you promote. Church attendance has been falling for a while in the West. It's primary enemies are science and hypocrisy within its membership. The unheard screams of diddled children for 2 millennia is at the top of that list. Walk the walk Tony. The talk without the walk will cause people to dismiss and walk away.
xoxo I'm going to try this one last time... Marty, the Bible is not a religion. You have obviously mistaken me for someone whose faith is based upon denominational loyalty to a building and "religious" organization. The book of Revelation opens with Christ's judgment upon the churches...
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Adjourned is the word that I should have used. I hope that our exchange has given you the benefit of seeing some discrepancy between your own behavior and the precepts and dogma that you promote. Church attendance has been falling for a while in the West. It's primary enemies are science and hypocrisy within its membership. The unheard screams of diddled children for 2 millennia is at the top of that list. Walk the walk Tony. The talk without the walk will cause people to dismiss and walk away.
xoxo I'm going to try this one last time... Marty, the Bible is not a religion. You have obviously mistaken me for someone whose faith is based upon denominational loyalty to a building and "religious" organization. The book of Revelation opens with Christ's judgment upon the churches... Ok, I read that. Tony, I did not contrast your behavior with a church structure, or a denomination, or a religious umbrella organization such as Southern Baptists. I contrasted your behavior and insults with specific passages in the bible. So if these passages are not fraudulent and are, in fact, the word of God, then your behavior and insults and judgements do not comply with them. Our little meeting here has not been about religion. It has been about your insults and hypocrisy (vis-a-vis) the religious views and "word of God" that you are always touting. And Christ may have denounced the Jewish hierarchies and money changers, but it isn't 2000 years ago and you are Tony, not Christ. Somehow the job has fallen on me to give you greater clarity, in order that, you can become a better Christian. Please try to help out with that.
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Adjourned is the word that I should have used. I hope that our exchange has given you the benefit of seeing some discrepancy between your own behavior and the precepts and dogma that you promote. Church attendance has been falling for a while in the West. It's primary enemies are science and hypocrisy within its membership. The unheard screams of diddled children for 2 millennia is at the top of that list. Walk the walk Tony. The talk without the walk will cause people to dismiss and walk away.
xoxo I'm going to try this one last time... Marty, the Bible is not a religion. You have obviously mistaken me for someone whose faith is based upon denominational loyalty to a building and "religious" organization. The book of Revelation opens with Christ's judgment upon the churches... Ok, I read that. Tony, I did not contrast your behavior with a church structure, or a denomination, or a religious umbrella organization such as Southern Baptists. I contrasted your behavior and insults with specific passages in the bible. So if these passages are not fraudulent and are, in fact, the word of God, then your behavior and insults and judgements do not comply with them. Our little meeting here has not been about religion. It has been about your insults and hypocrisy (vis-a-vis) the religious views and "word of God" that you are always touting. And Christ may have denounced the Jewish hierarchies and money changers, but it isn't 2000 years ago and you are Tony, not Christ. Somehow the job has fallen on me to give you greater clarity, in order that, you can become a better Christian. Please try to help out with that. You need "help", MartyDom? Fine... I don't give a damn how a pretentious agnostic believes Christians should behave. If I lack appropriate concern for offending you with my lifestyle, go fuk'yerself. I'm obviously not that kind of Christian, dumbas$. Does that help?
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You need "help", MartyDom? Fine... I don't give a damn how a pretentious agnostic believes Christians should behave. If I lack appropriate concern for offending you with my lifestyle, go fuk'yerself. I'm obviously not that kind of Christian, dumbas$.
Does that help? Tony, I'm trying to help you, but like all angry-empty headed teenagers, when your reasoning quickly hits a dead end, you start crapping in your hand like a chimp at the zoo and tossing turds. And even though you have been presented passages in the bible that make your shortcomings and hypocriscies vividly clear, you are so warped, you proclaim broken beligerent sh+t to be a your Christian badge of honor. But you say that you are a different kind of Christian. A type of Christian forever to be known as "BANJO-BOY" all grow'd up. xoxo That's gotta wrap me up here. The dead end has been hit and now it is circling back on itself. Crap in your hand one more time and toss it. Call it done. Politics is very enjoyable as a topic and very healthy for a songwriter site. Is it not?
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You need "help", MartyDom? Fine... I don't give a damn how a pretentious agnostic believes Christians should behave. If I lack appropriate concern for offending you with my lifestyle, go fuk'yerself. I'm obviously not that kind of Christian, dumbas$.
Does that help? Tony, I'm trying to help you, but like all angry-empty headed teenagers, when your reasoning quickly hits a dead end, you start crapping in your hand like a chimp at the zoo and tossing turds. And even though you have been presented passages in the bible that make your shortcomings and hypocriscies vividly clear, you are so warped, you proclaim broken beligerent sh+t to be a your Christian badge of honor. But you say that you are a different kind of Christian. A type of Christian forever to be known as "BANJO-BOY" all grow'd up. xoxo That's gotta wrap me up here. The dead end has been hit and now it is circling back on itself. Crap in your hand one more time and toss it. Call it done. Politics is very enjoyable as a topic and very healthy for a songwriter site. Is it not? Everyone else manages perfectly fine here, MartyDom... In fact, the site is amazingly tranquil without you. Trying to help me? I would say thank you for your concern... but, that would just be lowering myself to your level.
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Everyone else manages perfectly fine here, MartyDom... In fact, the site is amazingly tranquil without you. That is the only cogent point that you have made in all of this. I have noticed that myself and have concluded that I am not a fit here. Today I was lurking and your political thread drew me in. Tranquil? Not sure that works, but more tranquil...yep, no argument. Trying to help me? I would say thank you for your concern... but, that would just be lowering myself to your level. Look at your posts Tony. You sink into much deeper sh+t than I do, but the oblivion and denial is no surprise. I was told to go away for arguing that it should stop.
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Everyone else manages perfectly fine here, MartyDom... In fact, the site is amazingly tranquil without you. That is the only cogent point that you have made in all of this. I have noticed that myself and have concluded that I am not a fit here. Today I was lurking and your political thread drew me in. Tranquil? Not sure that works, but more tranquil...yep, no argument. Trying to help me? I would say thank you for your concern... but, that would just be lowering myself to your level. Look at your posts Tony. You sink into much deeper sh+t than I do, but the oblivion and denial is no surprise. I was told to go away for arguing that it should stop. I still firmly believe that, if you and Dom aren't the same person, the two of you are a team from another site... only here to chase folks away.
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I still firmly believe that, if you and Dom aren't the same person, the two of you are a team from another site... only here to chase folks away. Well, if that is something that you choose to believe...go with that and enjoy.
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Trump will be interviewed before the game. Wow. This is his address to the world.
What exactly he will say in the interview will be anticipated and talked about, when he says it it will be talked about, and later when he's done it will be talked about Trump just made fun of the fact the US may take Gaza while Netanyahu says he wants to redraw the map of the Middle East. In a related unrelated item, John Kennedy Toole's 1981 canonical piqaresque Pulitzer Prize winning novel set in New Orleans, A Confedary of Dunces, is once again climbing the best seller list
Then at half time Kendrick Lamar which will be a good time to take a break.
What happens after the game ...will Trump be on the podium somehow sharing the win?
And Tony. That rant against tarrifs of Mexican on imports?
Just wait until it costs you 25% more to listen to Michael Buble. I assume Trump will talk about all the things he's been talking about these past days: Taking over Gaza, the Panama Canal, Greenland. He might even mention a new region he's going to take over. I'm sure he'll say how well things are going since he's become President: gas prices way down, groceries prices down, cheaper eggs, how well his tariffs are working, the millions and millions of migrants that have already been deported. I don't think he'll say much about the game. He probably doesn't even know who's playing. He's probably glad Swift isn't doing the half time show. Only he knows what he'll talk about.
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Maybe Macaulay Culkin and him will re-invent the Home Alone 2 scene.
Culkin: " Do you know where I can find a bathroom?"
Trump: "There's a bathroom right over there. A good bathroom. Not the best. No. But.. I mean, there's always room for improvement, right? But I have the greatest bathroom ever built. It's a masterpiece, really. Wonderful designers. Melania chose the sink and tiles. It's in my tower. Have you seen my tower? Awesome designers. Great bathroom. Greatest ever."
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I guess it was a pipe dream thinking you could mention trump attending Superbowl, without this.
The funny thing with Tony is if you ask him how he knows what he knows, he won't know.
The Bible is not a religion.....
Well, it may not be Catholic or Baptist or Methodist but it is the basis for the biggest religion in the world, Christianity .
Tony, whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers as you do unto me.
Your attacks of people won't save you
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I guess it was a pipe dream thinking you could mention trump attending Superbowl, without this. Yeah', you're obviously smokin' "something" in that pipe... The funny thing with Tony is if you ask him how he knows what he knows, he won't know.
The Bible is not a religion..... You keep looking for answers in the wrong place, DomDom! You're not going to find the Spirit on Google... Well, it may not be Catholic or Baptist or Methodist but it is the basis for the biggest religion in the world, Christianity. So, if you're half as smart as you think you are, why do you keep asking "ME"? Tony, whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers as you do unto me.
Your attacks of people won't save you That's actually an excellent quote, Dom. Be careful what you ask for... The very first thing the Bible will do is condemn you.
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Tony it must be so good to feel you can use your faith in the Bible to cudgel others with it...to feel so superior in your beliefas that you can exclude everyone else who does not believe exactly as you do and tell them they will never be saved....that you will be in Heaven and everyone else who does not believe exactly as you do will be burning in eternal flame.
Is that what "Being Saved" is all about? Beat others over the head with your beliefs and make no room for the possibility that the "Ultimate Truth" is not what you think it is?
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Tony it must be so good to feel you can use your faith in the Bible to cudgel others with it...to feel so superior in your beliefas that you can exclude everyone else who does not believe exactly as you do and tell them they will never be saved....that you will be in Heaven and everyone else who does not believe exactly as you do will be burning in eternal flame.
Is that what "Being Saved" is all about? Beat others over the head with your beliefs and make no room for the possibility that the "Ultimate Truth" is not what you think it is? Like most religious oriented people, there is a lot of fraud in their beliefs. He has a mix of right winged religiousness. For all we know he's hitting the sauce with these rants. I think there is deep insecurity in his beliefs, whereas we express them, he feels better by slamming others beliefs. Anybody who thinks they got a beat on God, has lost it.
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He has a mix of right winged religiousness. I am a self-confessed idiot for posting on this again, but I did it anyway. The quote above is the crux. Tony is not about Christianity. If he was, he would read the teachings more closely and stop much of what he does. The true core of Tony is culture and tribalism. People like me versus people not like me, particularly the ones that I don't like and don't like me. Tony's perfect world would be living down the street from wherever banjo boy was. With, Lauren Boebert as his congress rep - an adult caught on camera groping a date in a theater MTG as his senator - an alleged adulteress. (10 commandments) Matt Gaetz as his President. Who seem to disappear quickly from view when reports started coming out that an evidence backed case could be made against him for statuatory rape. But to my knowledge they all hold up a bible, talk about the flesh, and state that they told God that they were sorry. The hypocrisy is off-the-charts. And the core issues aren't really about what is written in the scripture. It is about people like Tony versus people that Tony sees as against people like Tony. Christianity is merely his trump card, that gives him the win, no matter how phuqued up that he acts.
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Tony it must be so good to feel you can use your faith in the Bible to cudgel others with it...to feel so superior in your beliefas that you can exclude everyone else who does not believe exactly as you do and tell them they will never be saved....that you will be in Heaven and everyone else who does not believe exactly as you do will be burning in eternal flame.
Is that what "Being Saved" is all about? Beat others over the head with your beliefs and make no room for the possibility that the "Ultimate Truth" is not what you think it is? Tony it must be so good to feel you can use your faith in the Bible to cudgel others with it...to feel so superior in your beliefas that you can exclude everyone else who does not believe exactly as you do and tell them they will never be saved....that you will be in Heaven and everyone else who does not believe exactly as you do will be burning in eternal flame.
Is that what "Being Saved" is all about? Beat others over the head with your beliefs and make no room for the possibility that the "Ultimate Truth" is not what you think it is? Like most religious oriented people, there is a lot of fraud in their beliefs. He has a mix of right winged religiousness. For all we know he's hitting the sauce with these rants. I think there is deep insecurity in his beliefs, whereas we express them, he feels better by slamming others beliefs. Anybody who thinks they got a beat on God, has lost it. Hilarious... I'm just a believer lol! Why do you fools hold me up as a knowledgeable advocate, then condemn me for not being the appropriate example that you expect? Why don't you guys humble yourselves before God and take your issues up with HIM!? HIS opinion hasn't changed in thousands of years! What's the matter? Antiquated Spirituality got your tongues? You're not going to change, I'm not going to change... GO AHEAD, BLAME GOD! Own your own BS and quit blaming "ME"! I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH YOU HATE CHRISTIANS! I didn't even start this conversation... ON THIS IDIOTIC THREAD!
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I didn't even start this conversation... ON THIS IDIOTIC THREAD! No Corona, No Lime, No Guacamole, No Beef Tacos, No Chicken Wings... YOU LIBTARDS SURE KNOW HOW TO PARTY! LMBFWCAO  You absolutely did start it.
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I didn't even start this conversation... ON THIS IDIOTIC THREAD! No Corona, No Lime, No Guacamole, No Beef Tacos, No Chicken Wings... YOU LIBTARDS SURE KNOW HOW TO PARTY! LMBFWCAO  You absolutely did start it. Trump, Superbowl, Corona, Libtards... THAT'S PERFECTLY IN KEEPING WITH THE OP!
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I'm not sure if I'm understanding his whole complsint I thought he liked Trump, but he seems to be labeling Trump a libtard.
Guys like Huckabee say God saved trump from the assassination attempt.
I agree Marty, there is no Christ in Tony's MO.
It's all rhetoric and fear mongering.
Some Christians believe they don't have to live a decent life and follow the laws. So long as they say I accept Jesus, all bets are off.
I think Jesus clearly came to teach us how to live with each other
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I'm not sure if I'm understanding his whole complsint I thought he liked Trump, but he seems to be labeling Trump a libtard.
Guys like Huckabee say God saved trump from the assassination attempt.
I agree Marty, there is no Christ in Tony's MO.
It's all rhetoric and fear mongering.
Some Christians believe they don't have to live a decent life and follow the laws. So long as they say I accept Jesus, all bets are off.
I think Jesus clearly came to teach us how to live with each other Lol... Yeah', keep telling yourself that. I obviously know something you don't...
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I'm not sure if I'm understanding his whole complsint I thought he liked Trump, but he seems to be labeling Trump a libtard.
Guys like Huckabee say God saved trump from the assassination attempt.
I agree Marty, there is no Christ in Tony's MO.
It's all rhetoric and fear mongering.
Some Christians believe they don't have to live a decent life and follow the laws. So long as they say I accept Jesus, all bets are off.
I think Jesus clearly came to teach us how to live with each other Lol... Yeah', keep telling yourself that. I obviously know something you don't... Of course you do, of course you do.
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I'm just a believer lol! Why do you fools hold me up as a knowledgeable advocate, then condemn me for not being the appropriate example that you expect? So you are saying you do not know the Bible therefore you cannot be held accountable for what it says BUT you believe in what it says with absolute certainty it is true???? Why don't you guys humble yourselves before God and take your issues up with HIM!? HIS opinion hasn't changed in thousands of years! I would love to leave His judgement up to Him, but you keep taking that into your own hands But I in no way blame Him for your behaviour Tony it must be so good to feel you can use your faith in the Bible to cudgel others with it...to feel so superior in your beliefas that you can exclude everyone else who does not believe exactly as you do and tell them they will never be saved....that you will be in Heaven and everyone else who does not believe exactly as you do will be burning in eternal flame.
Is that what "Being Saved" is all about? Beat others over the head with your beliefs and make no room for the possibility that the "Ultimate Truth" is not what you think it is? Tony it must be so good to feel you can use your faith in the Bible to cudgel others with it...to feel so superior in your beliefas that you can exclude everyone else who does not believe exactly as you do and tell them they will never be saved....that you will be in Heaven and everyone else who does not believe exactly as you do will be burning in eternal flame.
Is that what "Being Saved" is all about? Beat others over the head with your beliefs and make no room for the possibility that the "Ultimate Truth" is not what you think it is? Like most religious oriented people, there is a lot of fraud in their beliefs. He has a mix of right winged religiousness. For all we know he's hitting the sauce with these rants. I think there is deep insecurity in his beliefs, whereas we express them, he feels better by slamming others beliefs. Anybody who thinks they got a beat on God, has lost it. Hilarious... I'm just a believer lol! Why do you fools hold me up as a knowledgeable advocate, then condemn me for not being the appropriate example that you expect? Why don't you guys humble yourselves before God and take your issues up with HIM!? HIS opinion hasn't changed in thousands of years! What's the matter? Antiquated Spirituality got your tongues? You're not going to change, I'm not going to change... GO AHEAD, BLAME GOD! Own your own BS and quit blaming "ME"! I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH YOU HATE CHRISTIANS! I didn't even start this conversation... ON THIS IDIOTIC THREAD!
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Say what you want, but the biggest conflict in all of human history is the one we all have with our own mortality. Only those oblivious to it or accepting of it are truly at peace. The rest of us bitch and moan about who has the better idea or thought, who's right or wrong, blah blah blah. Same old story. Different wagging tongues. You, me, them, us, it, they, whatever.....
We all end up exactly the same in the end. This is worth repeating.
We all end up exactly the same in the end.
Trump is scheduled to attend this year's Super Bowl. That was the whole point of this thread. Stay on target you wonderfully, eclectic, strange and adorable musicians, you!!
Peace,
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Say what you want, but the biggest conflict in all of human history is the one we all have with our own mortality. Only those oblivious to it or accepting of it are truly at peace. The rest of us bitch and moan about who has the better idea or thought, who's right or wrong, blah blah blah. Same old story. Different wagging tongues. You, me, them, us, it, they, whatever.....
We all end up exactly the same in the end. This is worth repeating.
We all end up exactly the same in the end.
Trump is scheduled to attend this year's Super Bowl. That was the whole point of this thread. Stay on target you wonderfully, eclectic, strange and adorable musicians, you!!
Peace,
Dave (""Same old story. Different wagging tongues. You, me, them, us, it, they, whatever....."") LMBFWCAO!!! Yeah', be sure to let God know how you "identify" 
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I'm just a believer lol! Why do you fools hold me up as a knowledgeable advocate, then condemn me for not being the appropriate example that you expect?
So you are saying you do not know the Bible therefore you cannot be held accountable for what it says
BUT you believe in what it says with absolute certainty it is true????
Why don't you guys humble yourselves before God and take your issues up with HIM!? HIS opinion hasn't changed in thousands of years!
I would love to leave His judgement up to Him, but you keep taking that into your own hands
But I in no way blame Him for your behaviour Good point, John! Yep', duality. The sinful nature of man... and the reason we all need Jesus! I can love God and hate a-holes at the same time 
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