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I never like Obama either , lucky were vets with health care . Now we pay for losers and health care. Well that has nothing to do with prophecy , Just another special group to please like 13k for an emergency visit , Con artist doctors and health care . Let's see what Trump messes us up on . We The People , bs . We the rich more like it ."In Money We Trust " in court houses . You could kill the pope , with enough money you'd get away with it .

The Department of Education's Office of Enforcement — created by the Obama administration and resurrected by the Biden administration — has repeatedly attempted to shut down colleges and universities that don't align with the administration's "woke agenda".
(The same department of ed that prosecuted parents who spoke against DEI as domestic terrorists...)

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/e...ent-weaponization/2024/11/29/id/1189809/


I had the benefit of a well traveled military childhood... However, I graduated High School in Orange County, California.

I may not understand half of what you write, Elvis; Or get the correlation...
But, strangely, I do understand precisely where you're coming from.

I joined the army at 16-years old , biggest mistake I ever made , or best . I do not think politicians care about our well being .

Elvis,
Men are fallible... God is not.

I believe in s higher being, or higher level of existence, or a spiritual journey that continues, and I think we have brilliant minds offering clues to this in recent years.

But I have a hard time believing God is infallible, cause the evidence doesn't stack up.

If God is all wise and powerful and loving, and HE is the creator of everything, why did he do such a bad job of it?

Put us on an Earth that shifts underneath and causes earthquakes , killing millions.

Put us in space where asteroids have been pummeling us for millions of years, massive ones destroying nearly all life on earth 5 times already.

Why would He create us genetically weak and vulnerable to all the damage that can be done to us.

Why would He create the sun in all its beauty causing skin Cancer.....

I won't go into wars and murders and all that cause those are caused by human free will...

The above was caused by our designer and He was fallible unless you believe he did it to cause misery to us

There is what God wills, and there is what God allows... because of free will.


If we would mislead our own children, then perhaps all we deserve is what God allows...

You're either in his favor or not ... but nobody is God -less

God created the Heavens and The Earth, right?

He wasn't infallible in creating the earth and in our place in the universe.

He coulds said, let's not create a violent atmosphere for life

Thats why the separated Politics and religion . They start quoting scripture it gets turned around by politicians . it's not " In God We Trust " its "In Money We Trust "

When God finally has enough of mans rejection and disobedience, then returns to answer all your questions...
What will be your excuse?
Will YOU tell God what He SHOULD have done?

At the end of this age, every man will have decided his own fate...

Will you tell God that YOU were misled?

Will you tell God that YOU were misled? When in 1969 ? in boot camp ? lol. I'm not worried about God , just do my best . I'm kinda over drugs, sex and rock and roll . Politics and religion are 2 different things, or are they ? Politics killed Jesus .

I give God full credit for the promise of a better future...

Who or what do you credit?

Speaking of the "future"...

I give God full credit for the promise of a better future...

Who or what do you credit?. Common sense , but it fails over music. I keep God on the back-burner , cuz science makes a lot of sense .

He wouldn't have had to allow earthquakes if He didn't create such a dangerous planet.

You're dodging the bigger issue, if God is infallible why is everything He created flawed.

If I design a bridge that has defects and people die, I'm gonna get sued.

God gets a pass

He wouldn't have had to allow earthquakes if He didn't create such a dangerous planet.

You're dodging the bigger issue, if God is infallible everything He created is flawed.

If I design a bridge that has defects and people die, I'm gonna get sued.

God gets a pass


I find it a waste of time fighting with God, common sense works (pretty well) .Damn music though .

Dom,
The promise is that this Earth will once again be the Eden that it was intended to be, and man will once again serve God's will...


https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/e...ent-weaponization/2024/11/29/id/1189809/
("The Department of Education's Office of Enforcement — created by the Obama administration and resurrected by the Biden administration — has repeatedly attempted to shut down colleges and universities that don't align with the administration's "woke agenda," according to a report from the American Principles Project.

The report, released Nov. 18, revealed approximately 70% of the office's enforcement efforts were aimed at Christian and career schools, despite the fact such schools represent less than 10% of college students.

Last year, the Biden administration increased the Office of Enforcement's budget by nearly 600% and requested an almost 230% increase this year, the report found.")

What do you think they should be teaching in school?
The science of evolution and interchangeable sexuality...?

God don't make mistakes....

He made aloit of mistakes designing our planet.

Earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, volcanoes...He created them.

Why so he wouldn't have to do it later, when people really starting pissing him off?

If I'm a loving God, I create a perfect place to play.

He couldn't be that dumb being all knowing

Tony Evolution and science makes a lot of common sense , I see no big deal in it. Ya got evil doers and good doers . it really has nothing to do with the Big Bang theory .

Have it your way...

My future is much brighter.

You're putting a negative slant on it , I'm doing ok. But you did say you're a pessimist lol.

He created the heavens and the earth and created them so that occasionally they kill millions of innocent people....

no rational person believes that

And it's not an argument against God, or the Bible, but if you just ignore how dangerous Earth is, your lying y
To yourself, and who created it?

Some say this earthquake caused more atheist than any

+1
The 1755 Lisbon earthquake influenced the intellectual climate of the time in a number of ways, including a shift away from religious explanations for natural disasters and toward a more scientific approach:
Questioned religious beliefs
The earthquake occurred on a Catholic holiday and destroyed many churches, which led to questions about the nature of God and the existence of evil in the world.
Prompted scientific inquiry
The earthquake led to a retreat from supernatural explanations and a shift toward empirical evidence. For example, Immanuel Kant published three papers in 1756 on the causes of earthquakes, which helped to establish the field of seismology.
Led to optimism
The shift away from supernatural explanations led to a more optimistic view of humanity's place in the world and its ability to understand and improve itself.
Prefigured current perspectives on disasters
Jean-Jacques Rousseau argued that the meaning of the earthquake depended on an understanding of the social and cultural context of the community, which prefigured current perspectives on disasters.

The shift away from supernatural explanations led to a more optimistic view of humanity's place in the world and its ability to understand and improve itself.
Prefigured current perspectives on disasters
Jean-Jacques Rousseau argued that the meaning of the earthquake depended on an understanding of the social and cultural context of the community, which prefigured current perspectives on disasters.



Well that goes off the whole revelations thing , Gods causing all these to awaken non-believers.

Tuff pill to swallow .

I don't think it undoes Christianity, it's a way of life as well as a religion. All I'm saying is we can't ignore science, to keep our beliefs In tact.

Pretty clear we evolved....

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ecies-walked-same-path-15-million-years/

I don't think it undoes Christianity, it's a way of life as well as a religion. All I'm saying is we can't ignore science, to keep our beliefs In tact.

It does a bit for fanatics . I agree... you can't ignore carbon testing and science facts .

Christian author and minister, Hal Lindsey, went to be with his Savior on November 25, 2024. He was 95.


Hal released his first book, The Late Great Planet Earth, in 1970. It went on to become the bestselling nonfiction book of that decade, according to The New York Times. It was translated into more than fifty languages. In 1978, it was adapted into a film starring Orson Welles.


Hal went on to write a series of bestsellers including There’s a New World Coming, Hope for theTerminal Generation, The Rapture, Satan is Alive and Well on Planet Earth, Combat Faith, The Final Battle, Amazing Grace, and many others.


He hosted The International Intelligence Briefing on the Trinity Broadcasting Network from 1994 to 2005. In 2006, he began The Hal Lindsey Report, continuing with that program until 2019. Hal Lindsey Presents can currently be seen on Daystar, His Channel, and on HalLindsey.com. Hal came to faith in Christ as a tugboat captain on the Mississippi River. Prophecy was important to him from the beginning. He went to Dallas Theological Seminary for four years where he studied a broad range of theology, but he was always drawn to prophecy because, he said, “It gave me a certainty that this book [the Bible] could not have been written by mere men.”


Time Magazine called Hal, “the Jeremiah of his generation.” Hal Lindsey’s life and work continue to touch the world. Hal was very aware and thankful for those who supported him through the years, making his work possible. His family and ministry team would like to add their thanks to those supporters. Hal’s message of the imminent return of Jesus continues.


Hal is survived by his wife and three daughters, as well as his grandchildren and great-grandchildren.

And will have to explain how he had a net worth of 42 million dollars, scaring people with doomsday crap and predictions that never came true.

Dont like to see anyone die, but if you believed this man .. you're nuts....

https://odssf.com/biography/hal-lindsey

Lindsey's claims were based on a dispensationalist interpretation of the Old and New Testament.[11] Lindsey claimed from the Bible that Jesus Christ will return from heaven to earth someday and establish eternal peace and harmony among all people.[12]

Lindsey claimed the Bible contains numerous prophecies that foretell of certain conditions and events that will occur in the world prior to Christ's return and that as these things occur, they are to serve as signs and reminders that we are in the era that the Bible calls the end times or last days.[13] Lindsey believed a prophetic event that officially begins the end times is the regathering of the Jewish people to their ancient homeland to form an independent nation after a prolonged worldwide dispersion.[14] He claimed that the establishment of the State of Israel in May 1948 is the fulfillment of this major prophecy.[citation needed]

In The Late Great Planet Earth, Lindsey wrote that the biblical prophets identified certain nations that would ally with other countries to form "four major spheres of political power" during the same era that Israel would be reestablished as a nation.[15] Lindsey wrote that these nations and their allies can be identified as: (1) Russia with its allies, (2) China with other nations of the Orient, (3) Egypt with other Middle East countries, and (4) an alliance of Western European nations.[16]

According to Lindsey, the alliance of Western European nations is a revived form of the ancient Roman Empire, predicted in the books of Daniel and Revelation symbolically as ten horns and ten kings.[17] In The Late Great Planet Earth, Lindsey quotes from a 1969 Time magazine article that the goal of the European Economic Community, which preceded the European Union, was to establish a ten-nation economic community.[18] Lindsey concludes, based on this and other sources, that this alliance will help cause the fulfillment of this prophecy and will ultimately be ruled by the Antichrist.[17]

Lindsey noted that the prophets did not refer to the United States directly or indirectly. He concluded that this is an indication that the U.S. will no longer be a great geo-political power by the time the Tribulation of the end times arrives.[19]

In a later book, titled, The 1980s: Countdown to Armageddon,[20] he indicated that he believed it was possible that the battle of Armageddon could occur in the not too distant future, stating, "the decade of the 1980s could very well be the last decade of history as we know it."[21] He noted again that there is no reference to the U.S. in Bible prophecy. He listed a few scenarios that seemed plausible to him at the time: (1) A takeover by communists, (2) destruction by a surprise Soviet nuclear attack, or (3) becoming a dependent of the 10-nation European community.[22] The book was on the New York Times bestseller list for than 20 weeks.[2]

Boob

On cue the Quibble King arrives because his thanksgiving GobbleQuibble seems to be losing traction.

Tony and Everett, ignore him...do not feed the animals

No you got it wrong idiot. I was already in this conversation, Everette came out of nowhere with news from a proven charltons death.

No religious leader should make 42 million off Gods word, as if he has some secret knowledge.

And John does not even believe.

Nice try John defeated yet again

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/slack...to-teenagers-in-the-80s-was-child-abuse/

Met with his savior huh...

On one level, the demonstrable wrongness of this book and its thesis is simply funny. The 1980s came and went and none of what Hal Lindsey prophesied came to pass. The Soviet Union did not invade Israel, thereby somehow sparking a war with China, the rebirth of the Roman Empire, the rise of the Antichrist, one-world government, etc. “History as we know it” had, indeed, changed in 1989, but not in anything like the ways that Lindsey had prophesied.

Millions of people took it very seriously on January 1, 1980, when Lindsey assured them that there was no way this decade would end without the Rapture happening. By January 1, 1990, that assurance had come to seem ridiculous — seeming ever-more ridiculous by January 1, 2000, or January 1, 2010, or January 1, 2020.

Well if your throwing up in a bucket at 2am form the flu . You're going to say thank God the next day when you feel better , atheist or not .

The journey is definitely more important than the destination. Pretty much, a pine box is nothing to look forward to.

They used to say there's no atheists in a fox hole.

Meaning alot will say God help me

Thing about death you will never know you're dead. It's a strange thing, but nobody knows they are dead. It's worrying about before hand is the torture, and pain for survivors.

If we do continue spiritually, death won't bother us either.

As some say, dying doesn't scare me, living does

Yup the ole atheists in fox hole deal , Well the flu is gone , So I'm not a atheist today, Give me a week , will see how it goes .

I think Pat Robertson of the 700 club had the same views as Hal Linsley . I try not to think about to much , I'm much to busy losing money on music .

There is what God wills, and there is what God allows... because of free will.


If we would mislead our own children, then perhaps all we deserve is what God allows... foxholes and all

Tony you and Everett make man-kind come off like blood sucking vampires .
Will be fine . The end of the world is depressing , why worry about it.

No, Sir David Attenborough is not an atheist, but rather an agnostic who doesn't rule out the possibility of a deity. He has said that he doesn't think that belief in God and evolution are incompatible. Attenborough has also said that he doesn't think that an understanding of evolution is inconsistent with faith in a supreme being.
Attenborough is an ambassador for the WWF and the natural world. His documentaries have brought extraordinary places and wildlife into the homes of audiences worldwide.
'There might be a God', says Sir David Attenborough.


So I'm with David . I don't hate anyone Tony . Well a few ex-wifes , but that's another topic . it was an observation you guys make on dooms-day all the time . Zero hope for man-kind , Some magical figure is going to save us .

I don't think evolution and Bible are very contradicting either.

If God works in natural ways, don't get more natural than that.

Bible thumpers don't like it cause it says God created it in 6 days, 7th day he rested. God didn't have power protein shakes, he needed his rest and relaxation. He's God, but he gets tired.

To me that story is non sense, but I do hold high regard for the new testament.

Jesus gave us more hope and more tips on how to have a peaceful world, than anything else in a Bible.

Well we agree on something religion is fairy tales, Fight, Flight, Freeze. And we do quiet often lol.

God forgives me.

The Devil condemns me.

The atheist laughs at me.

The "Self Righteous" hold me to an impossible standard.

Hmmmm... Decisions, decisions

The planet is 450 billion years old , humans have only been around a few thousand years . So creation makes little sense to me. no ones laughing when your dead your dead , do more songs. You could get a job in Japan cooking Puffer fish . if you cook it wrong the consumer is dead .Theres more stars in the sky than grains of sand on beaches . You tell me to stop recording , ok you stop believing in God .Were both be miserable .Well if historians changed B.C. to A.D. , something must have happened , so I'll stick with agnostic.

Sorry Elvis

Estimated time since The Big Bang.....some 13.5 billion years....but that only "traces light" back to its origins as it "sprang" into existence.
What happened before that is unknowable given what we know today.

Age of planet Earth ...4.5 billion (maybe you slipped a period)

First tool using bipeds....Australopithecus...3.3 Million years ago....Lomekwian Stone Tools found in Kenya

Age of Homo sapien....between 200k and 300k years...traced back to a common female ancestor via Mitochondrial DNA

Whatever on the math . I'm not a scientist . fact of the matter, evolution makes more common sense than fairytales from books going back thousands of years. You'd think if a boat carried all the animals , wed find a boat . All we got are stories written by men. its a pointless discussion , either you believe or don't .