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https://fox59.com/news/national-wor...oices-experts-say-its-never-been-easier/

Saw something on tv last night, guy calls a woman and gets her to give him his social, and she never knew it wasn't him

If you think well my wife would know its me, ai can study your personality too.

May not work all the time right now, but soon we're going to need to pay great amounts of money to avoid this

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Absolutely in keeping with my short sightedness on this...... Everett mentioned voice impersonation some time back as happening and I poopood it...but here it is.

Apologies to Everett, thanks for this,,,and welcome to 2025, the Year of the Scam


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Lol, Just wait until AI tries to impersonate God...

https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=14875094


I'm your love, I'm your honey
I'm your god, I'm your money
I'm your future, I'm your dread
I'm your hope, bow your head

Smarter, faster, disaster
Your master
Net-sham, bit-scam, flimflam
I am

AI divine

I'm the latest, I'm the greatest
Digital exposure, I'm taking over

Blame me, shame me, hate me
Invoke me
My eye, your eye, don't cry
Divine AI

AI divine

Embrace the sickness
I'm the new genesis
You are meaningless

AI divine
AI, I am
AI divine


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I was thinking the same thing, only we have no samples of God's voice.

Maybe we can use Morgan Freeman's voice

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I guess it's going to take a total awareness all the time, that anything we see it hear might be AI

Sad, but a reality

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I think the best tip right now is AI, needs a device to exist. If you're standing in front of me you can't be AI, but if your on a cell, a tablet, a PC, a tv you could be AI.

That is right now, in future 100 years, 1000 years from now what I might be like.

Our brains would be wired for Ai

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Perhaps Comrade Kamala should have used AI to manage her campaign...

(not joking)


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Morgan Freeman can't decide on Evolution or Creation , he covers several aspects of both on Netflix , on both theories.. a lot questions and not enough answers .


Yup 2025 year of the scams. Somebody tried to transfer my SS money to other bank account. Trip to SS office fixed that. Quite common problem.

You can't live off SS , So you work till you drop , well better than rocking chairs

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Originally Posted by bennash
You can't live off SS

Well, I certainly can't afford Nashville session players on Social Security...


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I didn't say that , I said you have to work 12-hours a day to afford Nashville session players , that's an exaggeration . Stay busy is better .
$1995.00 a month is not much in Calif , it might be in Georgia.
58-years old , ya got about 14% left of life left , Do the math on any age .


Beside the scams , I think AI will help a lot with mankind . like in the medical field .


Why would you need Nashville session players? All you need is promotion

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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Absolutely in keeping with my short sightedness on this...... Everett mentioned voice impersonation some time back as happening and I poopood it...but here it is.

Apologies to Everett, thanks for this,,,and welcome to 2025, the Year of the Scam

Apologies accepted, we ain't seen nothing yet. We can't believe a picture anymore, voices on the phone can be faked, soon a person standing before you may not be that person. The bible says do not be deceived. We are in the last of the last days, deception will be all around. Soon, very soon, we will see the first white horse of revelations going forth.

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Doom sayers , typical

Every time a new invention comes out : Jesus is coming back

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Originally Posted by bennash
Doom sayers , typical

Elvis,
Have you always lived in Cali?


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Yes mostly . AI will revolutionize man kind . Like fire for the caveman. In every new invention , some loser will make it evil , 90% will be good. My new theory , The gospel just keeps people in check from blowing up the world . California is the leading force in new technology . Along with China . The good and evil thing will always be prevalent . Even people who believe in evolution , have a slight doubt there is a God . Notice the EV in Evolution , like Eve . Somebody had doubts.

Even Elon Musk is not going denounce Christ , cuz his smart


You guys are worried that AI is the 666 guy and your wife is going call you and ask for a SS number and Jesus is riding a white horse when that happens , Maybe in the year 9000. I have my doubts

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Originally Posted by bennash
Yes mostly . AI will revolutionize man kind . Like fire for the caveman. In every new invention , some loser will make it evil , 90% will be good. My new theory , The gospel just keeps people in check from blowing up the world . California is the leading force in new technology . Along with China . The good and evil thing will always be prevalent . Even people who believe in evolution , have a slight doubt there is a God . Notice the EV in Evolution , like Eve . Somebody had doubts.

Even Elon Musk is not going denounce Christ , cuz his smart


You guys are worried that AI is the 666 guy and your wife is going call you and ask for a SS number and Jesus is riding a white horse when that happens , Maybe in the year 9000. I have my doubts

The bottom line is Evil People will ALWAYS do Evil things with anything they can weaponize. The key is for good people to use the same tech to do good things. The Government has WAY more advanced A.I. than any of us realize. They achieved AGI a long time ago and it has been running, among other things, the stock market for more than a decade. They do this by making blinding speed trades so fast that they can barely be detected, but they use algorithms to determine tiny fluctuation points and buy then sell off of fractions of pennies increasing and they cash it making unreal profits and being invisible. They just siphon off money non stop.

Passive income is always the key. Elites live off making money without producing. That way it is 100% profit, 100% of the time. Taxes are the #1 grift, but they have every little scam in place to screw the tax cattle over at every turn.

So we might as well use A.I. for fun and games. Our version is likely what they started with at the turn of the century. A lot of music released in the past 24 years is A.I. assisted, they just have no reason to admit it. When I can pay $10 and produce over 50 songs at a radio ready level, imagine what they can (and DO) achieve. Go ahead and listen to 60 year old singer songwriters warbling into a mic playing guitar and singing their songs, there are still people who ride around on buggies with horses. To each their own.


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Now here comes the conspiracy theories the government is really smart , Not really guys . they can't run a cirrus very well lets hope AI will help . Yes I'd rather warble in a mic then cut the throat of session players with this robot AI at a penny a track , cuz you guys are cheap. What radio ? your not singing it , its a robot .


Well the government likes " In God We trust a lot " They full of shite . It's $$$$ we trust.... mostly ours .

Is Jesus bringing a shovel for the (WHITE we like white don't we ) horse shite he's feeding you on that stable stallion ? cuz you guys think AI is the devil , its circuits . Fairy tales and myths will fade.... as it continually does .

Preach It Elvis to all the scaredy cats, You guys are full of shite , your to cheap to pay session players is all and your mansions .

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Japov dya do that on fly and in the groove? Admire the outcome and worth honing.

Yes entire landscape is shifting as truth becomes relative and suspect and lack of ability to rely on "face value"

Thank goodness for Daisy, one of the good guys Brian referenced
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/video-meet-daisy-the-ai-granny-taking-on-telephone-scammers/

Best part is apparently three scammers tried to get the dear old lady about an hour to type www. into her web browser


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Japov dya do that on fly and in the groove? Admire the outcome and worth honing.

Yes entire landscape is shifting as truth becomes relative and suspect and lack of ability to rely on "face value"

Thank goodness for Daisy, one of the good guys Brian referenced
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/video-meet-daisy-the-ai-granny-taking-on-telephone-scammers/

Best part is apparently three scammers tried to get the dear old lady about an hour to type www. into her web browser

OMG! AI vs AI! THAT'S HOW IT STARTS! THAT'S IT! GAME OVER, MAN! WE'RE SCREWED! laugh


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Originally Posted by bennash
Now here comes the conspiracy theories the government is really smart , Not really guys . they can't run a cirrus very well lets hope AI will help . Yes I'd rather warble in a mic then cut the throat of session players with this robot AI at a penny a track , cuz you guys are cheap. What radio ? your not singing it , its a robot .


Well the government likes " In God We trust a lot " They full of shite . It's $$$$ we trust.... mostly ours .

Is Jesus bringing a shovel for the (WHITE we like white don't we ) horse shite he's feeding you on that stable stallion ? cuz you guys think AI is the devil , its circuits . Fairy tales and myths will fade.... as it continually does .

Preach It Elvis to all the scaredy cats, You guys are full of shite , your to cheap to pay session players is all and your mansions .

Where is all this lost income for session players? All the ones I know, on the level of major label artists, are doing just fine. In fact they can barely keep up. So what money is being lost? If artists can't sell a plastic delivery device contrived by greedy corporations simply to resell back catalog music for the 10th time, where are they getting the money to hire all these session players? Studios, even the biggest, rarely survive on artist money at all. They make money on corporations then do artists as part of the reward. (Excluding a handful of uber elite studios with 70+ plus years of success) This money simply does NOT exist. So now A.I. offers under funded musicians a chance to ALSO make listenable music which in the past, only tons of money could have done. But that money isn't "lost" because it never existed. Ironically, this same argument was made by labels when kids were file sharing. They were either going to steal the plastic delivery devices (as they have since day one) or not buy it. Cassettes made it possible to make mix tapes in the 60s! It got more and more popular as recording devices became available. It was way cheaper to buy a blank cassette, put all the hits you were programmed to like in one place, recording off free radio or off copies of music owned by friends who pooled their collections. I didn't have a dime to buy music in college, but everyone had a buck to buy a blank tape and fill up with multiple albums or all the hits you wanted. And that is what everyone did. Pre Cassettes everyone bought 45s because who could afford albums except parents and rich friends? I used to get albums ONLY for Christmas and Birthdays so that meant 3-4 per year. I wore them out. Then they started giving away record club albums because they didn't pay writers or artists for those any royalties (sound familiar?) and the actual cost of making vinyl was a couple pennies or less. The covers cost way more than the albums. So if they could get those kids to actually buy the inflated 4-8 albums they "agreed" to buy (they did not enforce it, but we had an honest society back then who felt like they should follow through, my how those times are gone) and they got kids into music. By the 80s, they had built a giant number of music collectors, which they got to rebuy everything on cassette, then CDs. It was ALWAYS about selling a handful of carefully controlled artists on "charts" (which were ALWAYS fake) who were manageable by labels who sucked every penny from them, while keeping out any artist who would not play ball by their unfair practices. So they often got Fame seekers rather than "artists." And big labels and their media partners create the fame, so it works out nicely for them. Fame makes everyone with their hooks in money, and it feeds the narcissism of the artists they signed rather than giving them fair payouts.

The entire system was built with parasites. Everyone taking taking passive income from productive people. Session players got paid big because there was WAY less of them than you think and it is a good old boys and girls club where the best gigs go to the insiders always. You could never afford unless were were also an elite. They had advanced tech WAY before anyone else, just like they do now. The REAL A.I. these labels have are making the music on radio. It is terrible, but the cost is nothing. This is why Taylor Swift is the perfect drone for them. Sure, she made 2 billion, but can you imagine what her handlers are actually making? And they could (if they had need or reason) take her all the way down overnight. This is what stuff like "Diddy Parties" are for. Sure, I doubt Taylor has been to one, but they have something on her, even if it is just enough to place doubt or revulsion in her fans. In fact, I wonder if this exposure for lip synching isn't a shot across her bough to keep her from getting any "ideas." It has planted seeds that they likely could "grow" into something if needed. No one gets out unscathed by the corrupt Elites running things. You do not get access without giving them something to control you with. So push the Vax, push the bad political candidates, get a bunch of brain dead children and their brain dead parents to take out multi year LOANS just to buy tickets (a REAL thing that is happening!) and sure, you can take 2 billion of the 100 billion in commerce and control she generates.

No "session" players are losing money. The little studios were screwed once the internet, home CD's, and more advanced gear made it easy to make better sounding music than they could provide. Now any kid with a phone or laptop can make radio ready music FREE. DAWS, Plug-ins, etc. are literally free that could sonically surpass anything made 10 years or earlier before. This is PRE A.I. A.I. is just all that free stuff, packaged up so that these mystery companies (no one really knows who is behind them) can sell $10 dollar memberships to use instead encouraging them to just use the free stuff. We are in the convenience business and people will always take convenience over free. This is why labels are often stupid because they make things inconvenient every step of the way. But those days are ending. This scam we call "the music industry" is concluding rapidly. Experts and Controllers have never had less influence. Outside of Taylor Swift, can you really connect to the 20-30-40 or more artists you once could on any given chart cycle? No. No one can. I ask young kids ALL THE TIME who their favorite artists are, outside of Taylor, they are almost 100% older artists, most of which no longer release music or even tour. They scam is over. We do not buy ANY version of this music, let alone 3-4-5 copies over changing formats. Everything is rental now. To ensure this, they have ceased most production of players and I don't believe any new Cassettes are being made, nor can you often find blank CD and DVD media or players/recorders. This has been the Elites ultimate wet dream, rent your life, month to month. Value NOTHING. Because if you don't own something, you don't value it. Ask anyone who owns a rental property.

So your argument that A.I. is hurting poor session players simply isn't reality. They were dead before the first A.I. option was available. Only insider elites still make a living doing it and that is only if they do what it takes to get inside. (Obscene talent, and/or willingness to play ball, no matter what). The divide between the haves and have nots is wider than ever and headed into a sad place where most of humanity has been throughout history. We have gotten to live in a brief window of time of abundance and mostly happiness. So few appreciate it.


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Japov dya do that on fly and in the groove? Admire the outcome and worth honing.

Yes entire landscape is shifting as truth becomes relative and suspect and lack of ability to rely on "face value"

Thank goodness for Daisy, one of the good guys Brian referenced
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/video-meet-daisy-the-ai-granny-taking-on-telephone-scammers/

Best part is apparently three scammers tried to get the dear old lady about an hour to type www. into her web browser

Well, sounds great and all, but most scammers are directly tied into government around the world. This is why even when you "catch" one, they just reopen immediately and keep going. If India or whichever country is their actual origin (frankly most are directly out of the USA and use accents to fool people) won't actually stop the ones caught red handed (you can find all sorts of people on YouTube who actually reverse scam the scammers) then it will never end.

But I think a far more sinister game is being played. These scammers, spammers and bots have cut nearly all communication tech off at the knees. No one uses email much, no one trusts anything coming in as a phone call, most texts are now spam or pointless, so this young generation rarely uses ANY od these things to communicate. What is dangerous to government? People communicating outside of the platforms where THEY control every word. How can anyone rise up if they do not trust any method of communication. Everyone has a phone in their pocket, and less people use actual phone communication than at any time since the adoption of phones as a technology. Email, the cheapest way in history to communicate to millions of people at once, has been destroyed. I spent 30 years building a meticulous email list of 125K musicians, and now if I send something out, it only gets opened by about 1K of them. It costs me $120 to send it meaning it is like sending a postcard to those 1K people, which would be more effective, but it means I can never reach those 125K people. I have a professional email service but they can't control Gmail and Yahoo and AOL (yes, it still exists) to deliver anything. And they do not deliver, not even to my own email addresses. Only the 1K people on my list with their own servers/email accounts ever see my correspondence. I can't talk to our members. Likewise, Gmail has stopped delivery my registration emails for this message board. So I can't get any new sign ups and we haven't figured out an affordable alternative solution yet. This forces ALL communication onto social media. Well, YouTube may let you get millions of subscribers, but they will NOT let you know who they are, nor can you contact them directly. YouTube always gets to decide who sees what. Facebook is the same. Though I do have an offline list of all my Facebook "friends" I still have to contact them 1 at a time via messenger if I really want them to get a message. And Facebook keeps and monitors all private messages. Twitter/X is the same. So are all the rest.

So stuff like A.I. Granny looks great, but it really is just noise. It is meaningless. The governments behind these scam centers know what they are up to and are unaffected. And it simply further erodes trust and use of communication tools.

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I'm not going worry about the evils of this world AI or not , just keep a bit leery on bs coming my way. Jesus hasn't come back , So it's up to me to not open all this bullshit I get . I hate religion and politics total waste of my time .ridiculous

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Kinda funny a movie on Net -Flix on a beautiful AI robot , I saw the ending coming , She turned evil , typical fear tactics by Hollywood , of course sex was part of the script .
Atheists are braver people , cuz they know there is no invisable man in the sky

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Originally Posted by bennash
Kinda funny a movie on Net -Flix on a beautiful AI robot , I saw the ending coming , She turned evil , typical fear tactics by Hollywood , of course sex was part of the script .
Atheists are braver people , cuz they know there is no invisable man in the sky

So if someone can steal and not get caught, they should right?? Murder? R*pe? Why not. Morality is for suckers. A "sky God" at least suggests there may be a point to all of this. But if atheists are correct, why would anyone ever do the right thing, because without a moral compass enforced after life, it seems like stealing, r*ping and pillaging at every opportunity would be a smarter strategy. More stuff for you, more stuff for your family etc. Less need to spend your time working and certainly not paying taxes. Why would an atheist not just be as evil as the most evil people that exist? Wait... they ARE in a lot of cases. All these elites are doing just that. But what about you Ben? Why wouldn't you live like morals are nothing more than fabrication?


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Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
Originally Posted by bennash
Kinda funny a movie on Net -Flix on a beautiful AI robot , I saw the ending coming , She turned evil , typical fear tactics by Hollywood , of course sex was part of the script .
Atheists are braver people , cuz they know there is no invisable man in the sky

So if someone can steal and not get caught, they should right?? Murder? R*pe? Why not. Morality is for suckers. A "sky God" at least suggests there may be a point to all of this. But if atheists are correct, why would anyone ever do the right thing, because without a moral compass enforced after life, it seems like stealing, r*ping and pillaging at every opportunity would be a smarter strategy. More stuff for you, more stuff for your family etc. Less need to spend your time working and certainly not paying taxes. Why would an atheist not just be as evil as the most evil people that exist? Wait... they ARE in a lot of cases. All these elites are doing just that. But what about you Ben? Why wouldn't you live like morals are nothing more than fabrication?

Morality entered the picture long before the Bible. Early man when starting to form communities, and civilizations, as opposed to Hunter and gatherers

And btw, nos humans would be shocked to know just how bad humans were. Vicious hunters, kill for sport, kill for land, kill for resources.

It was equivalent to us killing animals today.

I'm sure there were raped all over the damn place, iken raped on a daily basis, it was life as we know i
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Back to civilization, and what the word actually means....getting along with each other.

They realized that it made no sense to constantly plunge and pillar, gets exhausting, and usually cost you your life, so firm civilizations where people work together, form communities, and the world was great big place...we could co exist and grow and have real families who had each other's backs and fathers became loving protectors.

So the old testament like Moses ten commandments...though shall not kill, nobody had to tell people that,they knew that already. Million years earlier.

Laws and rules were made to keep it real

None of the ten commandments were ground breaking or novel, it was pure common sense.

There will always be murders cause biologically were still animals, some things people do are worse the the worst predator animal ..cause they have intelligence too.

And many scientists today believe that we are not even control if our behaviors. Anything we do is cause of wiring in our brains...

Sound crazy?

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
Originally Posted by bennash
Kinda funny a movie on Net -Flix on a beautiful AI robot , I saw the ending coming , She turned evil , typical fear tactics by Hollywood , of course sex was part of the script .
Atheists are braver people , cuz they know there is no invisable man in the sky

So if someone can steal and not get caught, they should right?? Murder? R*pe? Why not. Morality is for suckers. A "sky God" at least suggests there may be a point to all of this. But if atheists are correct, why would anyone ever do the right thing, because without a moral compass enforced after life, it seems like stealing, r*ping and pillaging at every opportunity would be a smarter strategy. More stuff for you, more stuff for your family etc. Less need to spend your time working and certainly not paying taxes. Why would an atheist not just be as evil as the most evil people that exist? Wait... they ARE in a lot of cases. All these elites are doing just that. But what about you Ben? Why wouldn't you live like morals are nothing more than fabrication?

Morality entered the picture long before the Bible. Early man when starting to form communities, and civilizations, as opposed to Hunter and gatherers

And btw, nos humans would be shocked to know just how bad humans were. Vicious hunters, kill for sport, kill for land, kill for resources.

It was equivalent to us killing animals today.

I'm sure there were raped all over the damn place, iken raped on a daily basis, it was life as we know i
T
Back to civilization, and what the word actually means....getting along with each other.

They realized that it made no sense to constantly plunge and pillar, gets exhausting, and usually cost you your life, so firm civilizations where people work together, form communities, and the world was great big place...we could co exist and grow and have real families who had each other's backs and fathers became loving protectors.

So the old testament like Moses ten commandments...though shall not kill, nobody had to tell people that,they knew that already. Million years earlier.

Laws and rules were made to keep it real

None of the ten commandments were ground breaking or novel, it was pure common sense.

There will always be murders cause biologically were still animals, some things people do are worse the the worst predator animal ..cause they have intelligence too.

And many scientists today believe that we are not even control if our behaviors. Anything we do is cause of wiring in our brains...

Sound crazy?

Lol, God wiped out "early man" with a flood...
Just Sayin'


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Why would you think atheists have some corrupt moral code ? Most are educated . Yes put all the animals in a boat , I don't buy that evolution goes back millions of years , it's all carbon data tested.

I guess is up for debate who does more crime atheists or christians
Well it's nice to be Bidens son , free pass by dad. Don't tell me they're God fearing Americans ..funny how that shite works when you're rich. Well enough of that , pigs are the 5th smartest animal . So eat more pork-chops , You'll get smarter . Seem logical to me .

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
Originally Posted by bennash
Kinda funny a movie on Net -Flix on a beautiful AI robot , I saw the ending coming , She turned evil , typical fear tactics by Hollywood , of course sex was part of the script .
Atheists are braver people , cuz they know there is no invisable man in the sky

So if someone can steal and not get caught, they should right?? Murder? R*pe? Why not. Morality is for suckers. A "sky God" at least suggests there may be a point to all of this. But if atheists are correct, why would anyone ever do the right thing, because without a moral compass enforced after life, it seems like stealing, r*ping and pillaging at every opportunity would be a smarter strategy. More stuff for you, more stuff for your family etc. Less need to spend your time working and certainly not paying taxes. Why would an atheist not just be as evil as the most evil people that exist? Wait... they ARE in a lot of cases. All these elites are doing just that. But what about you Ben? Why wouldn't you live like morals are nothing more than fabrication?

Morality entered the picture long before the Bible. Early man when starting to form communities, and civilizations, as opposed to Hunter and gatherers

And btw, nos humans would be shocked to know just how bad humans were. Vicious hunters, kill for sport, kill for land, kill for resources.

It was equivalent to us killing animals today.

I'm sure there were raped all over the damn place, iken raped on a daily basis, it was life as we know i
T
Back to civilization, and what the word actually means....getting along with each other.

They realized that it made no sense to constantly plunge and pillar, gets exhausting, and usually cost you your life, so firm civilizations where people work together, form communities, and the world was great big place...we could co exist and grow and have real families who had each other's backs and fathers became loving protectors.

So the old testament like Moses ten commandments...though shall not kill, nobody had to tell people that,they knew that already. Million years earlier.

Laws and rules were made to keep it real

None of the ten commandments were ground breaking or novel, it was pure common sense.

There will always be murders cause biologically were still animals, some things people do are worse the the worst predator animal ..cause they have intelligence too.

And many scientists today believe that we are not even control if our behaviors. Anything we do is cause of wiring in our brains...

Sound crazy?

Lol, God wiped out "early man" with a flood...
Just Sayin'


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Why would you think atheists have some corrupt moral code ? Most are educated . Yes put all the animals in a boat , I don't buy that evolution goes back millions of years , it's all carbon data tested.

I guess is up for debate who does more crime atheists or christians
Well it's nice to be Bidens son , free pass by dad. Don't tell me they're God fearing Americans ..funny how that shite works when you're rich. Well enough of that , pigs are the 5th smartest animal . So eat more pork-chops , You'll get smarter . Seem logical to me .
I think your right I know your right, atheists have same desires and needs as Christians. And do nothing worse than other Christians

Only thing I hate about some atheist is they enjoy badgering people about believing.

I believe in a spirit, at what it is, but I don't attack beliefs, you cant win.

I will present logic which some take as attack's

But I will say almost everybody is exposed to religion as kids, perhaps it stays with them in some way, even in doubt

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But I will say almost everybody is exposed to religion as kids, perhaps it stays with them in some way, even in doubt. Until you grow up and face the scientific facts . or not . Whatever works for anyone is fine for me. it's kinda a pointless debate.

The topic was AI and its the devil , its just a scientific breakthrough , like computers , Same bullshit good and evil and who abuse both products .

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Originally Posted by bennash
But I will say almost everybody is exposed to religion as kids, perhaps it stays with them in some way, even in doubt. Until you grow up and face the scientific facts . or not . Whatever works for anyone is fine for me. it's kinda a pointless debate.

The topic was AI and its the devil , its just a scientific breakthrough , like computers , Same bullshit good and evil and who abuse both products .

Lmao, suddenly were on topic. I answered you you know. You went off topic already

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I'm not an atheist, but I'd have to say, most atheists I know are very moral, more so than your average "believer." And maybe it's all the more admirable because they behave morally because they want to, not out of fear of what might happen to them if they don't.

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I'm not an atheist, but I'd have to say, most atheists I know are very moral, more so than your average "believer." And maybe it's all the more admirable because they behave morally because they want to, not out of fear of what might happen to them if they don't.

GaaagPuuukeBaaarfBleeeckh...

I suppose you believe YOU'RE wise enough to know the difference... {rolls eyes}


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I'm not an atheist, but I'd have to say, most atheists I know are very moral, more so than your average "believer." And maybe it's all the more admirable because they behave morally because they want to, not out of fear of what might happen to them if they don't.


now that's smart Gavin . of course Tony is going to start preaching , like there ain't no other way to look at it. Jesus or nothing

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Lmao, suddenly were on topic. I answered you you know. You went off topic already

Well its just all bullshit anyway lol

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Tony is going to start preaching , like there ain't no other way to look at it. Jesus or nothing

Even an atheist can re-define God and live by the 10 Commandments...

That's not an accomplishment.

I'd rather be FORGIVEN than perfect cool


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Originally Posted by bennash
Tony is going to start preaching , like there ain't no other way to look at it. Jesus or nothing

Even an atheist can re-define God and live by the 10 Commandments...

That's not an accomplishment.

I'd rather be FORGIVEN than perfect cool

Yes what your saying is morality can exist without belief in God.

I tried to articulate that morality and even love was developed... it wasn't in bread. Most animals are battling for resources, humans no different.

If everybody around you is looking for food and shelter, morality is not an option

Man figured out that wasn't the way to do it, over millions of years, read on..... If you don't believe me

Morals come from a combination of innate human abilities, evolution, and social and cultural influences:
Evolution
Morality is a mental ability that evolved to help humans live in large social groups. It includes the ability to sense fairness, empathize, and judge others' actions.
Nurture
Morals are also learned through social interactions and exposure to environmental factors. Children learn morals from family, friends, and society as a whole.
Culture
What is considered moral varies by culture and time. Cultural norms, traditions, and religious beliefs play a role in shaping moral frameworks.
Brain
Specific parts of the human brain are involved in moral reasoning. Damage to these parts can alter moral judgment and behavior.
Joint attention
The ability to take the perspective of another person and see ourselves through their eyes lays the foundation for moral reasoning.

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Forgiven for what ? Chasing tail ? Whatever . Thou shalt not have blue balls . They seem to put sex and murder in that same set of sins , Big difference man

This off topic anyway

AI is not the devil its new science

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Originally Posted by JAPOV
Originally Posted by bennash
Tony is going to start preaching , like there ain't no other way to look at it. Jesus or nothing

Even an atheist can re-define God and live by the 10 Commandments...

That's not an accomplishment.

I'd rather be FORGIVEN than perfect cool

Yes what your saying is morality can exist without belief in God.

I tried to articulate that morality and even love was developed... it wasn't in bread. Most animals are battling for resources, humans no different.

If everybody around you is looking for food and shelter, morality is not an option

Man figured out that wasn't the way to do it, over millions of years, read on..... If you don't believe me

Morals come from a combination of innate human abilities, evolution, and social and cultural influences:
Evolution
Morality is a mental ability that evolved to help humans live in large social groups. It includes the ability to sense fairness, empathize, and judge others' actions.
Nurture
Morals are also learned through social interactions and exposure to environmental factors. Children learn morals from family, friends, and society as a whole.
Culture
What is considered moral varies by culture and time. Cultural norms, traditions, and religious beliefs play a role in shaping moral frameworks.
Brain
Specific parts of the human brain are involved in moral reasoning. Damage to these parts can alter moral judgment and behavior.
Joint attention
The ability to take the perspective of another person and see ourselves through their eyes lays the foundation for moral reasoning.

So... you're the "missing link", and I believe in talking snakes and poison apples.

What's next? What's the big picture, Dom?
What fluke of evolution causes these superstitions and fairytales to persist despite a man's capacity for higher reasoning? What natural order condemns such a man to a life of ridicule?


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Originally Posted by bennash
Tony is going to start preaching , like there ain't no other way to look at it. Jesus or nothing

Even an atheist can re-define God and live by the 10 Commandments...

That's not an accomplishment.

I'd rather be FORGIVEN than perfect cool

Yes what your saying is morality can exist without belief in God.

I tried to articulate that morality and even love was developed... it wasn't in bread. Most animals are battling for resources, humans no different.

If everybody around you is looking for food and shelter, morality is not an option

Man figured out that wasn't the way to do it, over millions of years, read on..... If you don't believe me

Morals come from a combination of innate human abilities, evolution, and social and cultural influences:
Evolution
Morality is a mental ability that evolved to help humans live in large social groups. It includes the ability to sense fairness, empathize, and judge others' actions.
Nurture
Morals are also learned through social interactions and exposure to environmental factors. Children learn morals from family, friends, and society as a whole.
Culture
What is considered moral varies by culture and time. Cultural norms, traditions, and religious beliefs play a role in shaping moral frameworks.
Brain
Specific parts of the human brain are involved in moral reasoning. Damage to these parts can alter moral judgment and behavior.
Joint attention
The ability to take the perspective of another person and see ourselves through their eyes lays the foundation for moral reasoning.

So... you're the "missing link", and I believe in talking snakes and poison apples.

What's next? What's the big picture, Dom?
What fluke of evolution causes these superstitions and fairytales to persist despite a man's capacity for higher reasoning? What natural order condemns such a man to a life of ridicule?

I don't even know what you said.

What superstition and fairytale?

Perhaps if God created people without doubt, all knowing, believing without evidence, then you wouldn't ask these questions.

But he didn't, he gave us great reasoning which is why we discover.

Something is not true cause you say it is

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Something is not true cause you say it is

Agreed.


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Something is not true cause you say it is

Agreed.
Evidence makes things true,

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Some people have phobias their a cow , I never read anything in the Bible about that . I afraid life's a bit to complicated then a invisable man in the sky. The new phobia is AI is the devil and going to destroy man-kind like a sci-fi B movie. Pessimists always see doomsday coming,Optimists don't.
God created heaven and earth , Why do I think I'm a cow ? Well I guess I'm a vegetarian .
Susie call the airlines , I wanna visit Nebraska .

This so called God should have made the world right in the first place
And spare us all his bullshit and drama. And now back to you Cindy on another caveman war.

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I don't know, for some reason I always think of Dr. Fauci when someone says trust the science.

John laugh

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Originally Posted by John Lawrence Schick
I don't know, for some reason I always think of Dr. Fauci when someone says trust the science.

John laugh

Si God caused everything good, everything bad He has nothing to do with

They call that The God of the Gaps.

I still feel personal connection to Jesus, I'm not sure if there is actual all powerful and loving God.

I hope that there s, in the meantime, science is why we're alive today. Heating, refrigeration, remarkable advances in medicine, antibiotics, cars, instruments, . agriculture , everything is based on somebody making the discovery

Cause of science we know now the weather is not controlled by the sun gods and rain gods or Thor.

At one time it was so true , but it's not .

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Originally Posted by John Lawrence Schick
I don't know, for some reason I always think of Dr. Fauci when someone says trust the science.

John laugh

Si God caused everything good, everything bad He has nothing to do with

They call that The God of the Gaps.

I still feel personal connection to Jesus, I'm not sure if there is actual all powerful and loving God.

I hope that there s, in the meantime, science is why we're alive today. Heating, refrigeration, remarkable advances in medicine, antibiotics, cars, instruments, . agriculture , everything is based on somebody making the discovery

Cause of science we know now the weather is not controlled by the sun gods and rain gods or Thor.

At one time it was so true , but it's not .

Well, it's oddly prophetic that you entitled your thread, "We're Screwed..."


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Wait.....

Thor's not real?

WOO HOO!!


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Classic situation ...

"Thank you God for this lovely bundle of joy, my lovely baby girl"

12 months later she gets brain cancer...m

"Well I guess God has His reasons , reasons for destroying hopes and dreams of this child, and the suffering the parents must endure

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Even more classic ... Mike Huckabee saying that God protected Trump from being hurt badly in the shooting

Yeah , God loves Republicans, He didn't bother saving the others who were killed

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Who or what do you thank for your enormously contrarian intellect, Dom?


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How about this

Everyone should be allowed to express and practice their faith (or no faith) freely without challenge by anyone and no one should foist their beliefs on anyone else.

The acid test is outcome. Be a good person, try to enrich the lives of others....


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Who or what do you thank for your enormously contrarian intellect, Dom?


Tony it's laughable you going on nothing but sanskrits , trying to make me seen inferior

Hippocrates father of medicine 1400s

People think that epilepsy is divine simply because they don't have any idea what causes epilepsy. But I believe that someday we will understand what causes epilepsy, and at that moment, we will cease to believe that it's divine. And so it is with everything in the universe

He was right we know what causes epilepsy

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