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I know, who???? He's been a fixture in NYC underground music for a long time. Believe he started as a punk rocker at 14.

Decades later still indie and unknown... seemingly.

He's been a favorite of mine for a while and recently he had a spinal stroke.

A benefit and an album of covers of his sings was released

Never think an indie doesn't have influence.....

I'm like nobody knows who this guy is

But look at the list of artists who covered him here.

Bruce, billy joe Armstrong, counting crows, lucinda Williams, graham parker, the guy is known and well known. Shocking to me I thought he was just an indie. But I always thought he was a great songwriter, so do mega artists....

I met him in my had no idea he was that respected.

I remember I told Mac about him he dug it too.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/...-silver-patron-saints-review-1235107724/

Most if the ones I like didn't go on the album.

Love this tune


Or this one Bruce helped out in


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Tons of talented artists you'll never hear , it's all $$$$$ to get noticed. Broken radio is good , its not robots

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Yeah, NYC has about 5 guys who should be massive stars, and tons if pretty damn good artists who could be too.

But if you make a living, are able to walk around without being bothered, not such a bad thing.

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I guess ....with millions u can buy privacy I reckon. bothered by what ? admiration ? poor babies . Yes these people love me , Well time to fly in a private jet to the Bahamas .Ahh the rigors of stardom . tell that maid to fold down my sheets . Should I bring my harem ? So exhausting .I'd rather be living in poverty .

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There's basically 3 things artists shoot for.

Money, fame, acknowledgment. well throw women in with fame.

Seems to me fame is least important, fame destroyed Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson.

Money everyone wants, but acknowledgement, that's what most of us who know we will never get rich or famous want

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I know (in person) a few thousand artists who are STILL making a full time living without anyone knowing who they are. That is no easy task. With no CD's to sell and without friends like Bruce Springsteen etc. they still find ways to do it.

This guy may not be known by the public, but when you are in a circle that includes THOSE artists, you are still running in elite circles. I know many artists like that too. They rub elbows with massive Superstars, make a living, do amazing things, but barely anyone knows they exist.

If you want to be a piece of commerce, you have to 1. be connected to elites (or be one) or 2. must be willing to be used and exploited by Elites. There is #3 but that is the toughest place to be. You create your own specific fans base, then serve them entertainment directly, without the middle people. We've been teaching that stuff for 40 years. I did it myself. Not only have none of you heard my music, none of you have even asked in all these years. That's okay with me as this Org. has supported me parallel to my music. This website, not so much. I have tried to have a place for those who don't play live or mix it up with other musicians much in real life. I value everyone is a creator and have given back for my blessings by having this up here for folks. Even the ones who don't like me. As long as they leave each other alone.

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I'm one of the "elite" mentioned above...... (just no one knows me yet) hehehe.

Also, I've requested a couple of times over the years for you to post something you've recorded, Brian. Please feel free to share if you want, can or care to. I look forward to hearing your work.

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Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
2. must be willing to be used and exploited by Elites.

Oooh oooh, pick me.. PICK ME!


The journey is definitely more important than the destination...
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must be willing to be used and exploited by Elites. count me in and harems , You guys are way to serious

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
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2. must be willing to be used and exploited by Elites.

Oooh oooh, pick me.. PICK ME!

I doubt you have anything they would want. Perhaps you can offer service to Diddy? He is pretty desperate these days.


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Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
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2. must be willing to be used and exploited by Elites.

Oooh oooh, pick me.. PICK ME!

I doubt you have anything they would want. Perhaps you can offer service to Diddy? He is pretty desperate these days.

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Yeah Diddy fuked up. billions of dollars and hookers drugs blah blah blah , he should have just had 500 girlfriends like Quincy Jones, when do these asshols have time to practice? , their always blowing their mouth off. chasing pussy , downfall of mankind. Do you work out ? oh yeah that'll be $1000.00. What's Quincy 90 years old ? , were doomed guys. Well all country artists like myself , we don't have sex , that's the rumor. it all ended on that faithfully night in a truck in 1973 . ahh I feel a twitch . Were doomed .

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We should be practicing a walking bass line , than to think about pussy. Well marriage or hookers you're paying. shite here comes that twitch again , annoying sex. to much pussy Ditty , ya think. Well you can think of orgies in prison Diddy , thanks a lot Elvis

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Greetings Mr Elvis

Is been months you're silent and your songs have been making trends while request comes in to us from fans wishing to see you on our up coming show December. Hopefully we get a response from you soon.

@Hot97


I don't like paying for radio play , on the subject on being famous. Well scratch the harem , way to much work . well Tony we could join the army again and salt peter.

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Wow...love the songs....powerful and basic....thanks for sharing this FD


If writing ever becomes work I think I'm going to have to stop

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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Wow...love the songs....powerful and basic....thanks for sharing this FD

The dude has tons of great songs. When I met him I thought I was meeting some guy doing a gig... A better than typical gig. But I thought he was just a guy making a few bucks. Or trying to break out

His songs and voice was great

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Back to this story , I get messages in Facebook .

But this is why Bruce is so great. Politics aside, the massive game, he's still fame as well, still willing to support a guy like this.


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/22/arts/music/jesse-malin-stroke-concert.html

'At the hospital, friends rallied around him. Bruce Springsteen — with whom he had performed at several benefit concerts, and who sang on one of Malin’s albums — called regularly and visited when he was in town. “He put all the nurses on the guest list and took pictures with everybody,†Malin said. “Just walked right in, no guards, no hoopla. Sat down, brought me a book, had a banana off my hospital food tray.â€

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Well maybe you can drop some songs and be famous like Jessie

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Originally Posted by bennash
Well maybe you can drop some songs and be famous like Jessie

The writing and recording is only part the picture, you haven't even started at that point..

'He has toured incessantly, building a modest but ardent following — sometimes opening at arenas for bigger acts, sometimes performing solo in people’s homes to pick up a little money."

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Well we all gotta start somewhere, its not rocket science, just have faith in your abilities

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Originally Posted by bennash
Well we all gotta start somewhere

Yeah but I don't think online, the fans you make are real fans. It requires no effort to click a like, or add yourself to an artist fan base.

They're there anyway.

If somebody gets out of their house and goes to see you at a gig, then that's more a real fan my opinion anyway. I think the Internet is too crowded with millions of artists everywhere.

I think going back to live performance in bars and venues is a new way to build a following suddenly.

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Probably live stuff , its a bit crowded on the net , But you can grow a small fan base , it's something to do , besides waiting for the world to end. Some artists got there start on the net like Taylor Swift.

Ya get some real nice fans , some haters , all good. One guy is trying to contact Jelly Roll and sing with him , before he dies of terminal cancer , then you get a few just nice folks , good songs man

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I have had people perform in my basement who have been on tour around the world playing massive stadiums as part of famous bands for decades. There are tons of people like this. I will mention 4 awesome artists: Cindy Alexander who tours with The Bacon Brothers every year for 2 decades. Ed Toth who was part of Vertical Horizon who had the #1 song in the world and opened the 30th anniversary show at Woodstock and subsequently he joined the Doobie Brothers who just now are concluding their careers. Next is Marc VonEm who toured (and still does) with Rob Thomas around the world for nearly 2 decades, sometimes opening, but mostly just being part of the band, playing guitar and singing. Lastly is Bob Malone who tours the world on his own but more notably has toured as John Fogerty's keyboard player for about 15-18 years. They just went in the studio for a new album. These people have all played many dozens of our JPF shows around the country for the past 30 years and also have played at my house as well. It is kind of surreal to see them at major venues with 70K+ at arena shows. I saw Bob play Radio City Music Hall one year and got to hang backstage with all world drummer Kenny Aronoff and briefly with John Fogerty. They are all just regular people. Many do benefits to help fellow artists in trouble. None of they hang with Springsteen, but then BS isn't the end all for most people like he is for some here. I had backstage passes to hang with the E Street Band the year Bruce toured "Born in the USA" and gave them away. He just never appealed to me. He was playing the Hoosier Dome (where the Colts played). They have since built a new stadium.


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Groupies , sing it your self.. ok all hail AI

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Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
I have had people perform in my basement who have been on tour around the world playing massive stadiums as part of famous bands for decades. There are tons of people like this. I will mention 4 awesome artists: Cindy Alexander who tours with The Bacon Brothers every year for 2 decades. Ed Toth who was part of Vertical Horizon who had the #1 song in the world and opened the 30th anniversary show at Woodstock and subsequently he joined the Doobie Brothers who just now are concluding their careers. Next is Marc VonEm who toured (and still does) with Rob Thomas around the world for nearly 2 decades, sometimes opening, but mostly just being part of the band, playing guitar and singing. Lastly is Bob Malone who tours the world on his own but more notably has toured as John Fogerty's keyboard player for about 15-18 years. They just went in the studio for a new album. These people have all played many dozens of our JPF shows around the country for the past 30 years and also have played at my house as well. It is kind of surreal to see them at major venues with 70K+ at arena shows. I saw Bob play Radio City Music Hall one year and got to hang backstage with all world drummer Kenny Aronoff and briefly with John Fogerty. They are all just regular people. Many do benefits to help fellow artists in trouble. None of they hang with Springsteen, but then BS isn't the end all for most people like he is for some here. I had backstage passes to hang with the E Street Band the year Bruce toured "Born in the USA" and gave them away. He just never appealed to me. He was playing the Hoosier Dome (where the Colts played). They have since built a new stadium.

Lol, to me he is, I understand he's not for everybody, alot of people think music should be fun, not as serious as his.

Live there is nobody better, that's when it gets fun. I've seen him over 30 times

I have friends who used to be big fans and now hate him cause how he got political later on.

Shouldn't change how you feel when you listen. He git big at the right time for me, ten years after brn in USA I turned to his music and found great meaning and understanding In it. It got me through some hard times, and still reminds me of the power of music

He doesn't make great records any more, but the cat is there to listen to

What I still admire about him is his goodness to fans and guys like this. He don't need to support this guy, it's who he is.

Does the same thing in Jersey, visits all the businesses in his hometown , take pictures with fans, never heard of any fan saying he was rude to them. Maybe has been at times, but majority say he's super nice.

And this is a guy who recently made Forbes list of billionaires, hanging out with a artist like that...

He ain't hanging out with Mick Jagger?

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That's what I'm talking about right there

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Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
I have had people perform in my basement who have been on tour around the world playing massive stadiums as part of famous bands for decades. There are tons of people like this. I will mention 4 awesome artists: Cindy Alexander who tours with The Bacon Brothers every year for 2 decades. Ed Toth who was part of Vertical Horizon who had the #1 song in the world and opened the 30th anniversary show at Woodstock and subsequently he joined the Doobie Brothers who just now are concluding their careers. Next is Marc VonEm who toured (and still does) with Rob Thomas around the world for nearly 2 decades, sometimes opening, but mostly just being part of the band, playing guitar and singing. Lastly is Bob Malone who tours the world on his own but more notably has toured as John Fogerty's keyboard player for about 15-18 years. They just went in the studio for a new album. These people have all played many dozens of our JPF shows around the country for the past 30 years and also have played at my house as well. It is kind of surreal to see them at major venues with 70K+ at arena shows. I saw Bob play Radio City Music Hall one year and got to hang backstage with all world drummer Kenny Aronoff and briefly with John Fogerty. They are all just regular people. Many do benefits to help fellow artists in trouble. None of they hang with Springsteen, but then BS isn't the end all for most people like he is for some here. I had backstage passes to hang with the E Street Band the year Bruce toured "Born in the USA" and gave them away. He just never appealed to me. He was playing the Hoosier Dome (where the Colts played). They have since built a new stadium.

Lol, to me he is, I understand he's not for everybody, alot of people think music should be fun, not as serious as his.

Live there is nobody better, that's when it gets fun. I've seen him over 30 times

I have friends who used to be big fans and now hate him cause how he got political later on.

Shouldn't change how you feel when you listen. He git big at the right time for me, ten years after brn in USA I turned to his music and found great meaning and understanding In it. It got me through some hard times, and still reminds me of the power of music

He doesn't make great records any more, but the cat is there to listen to

What I still admire about him is his goodness to fans and guys like this. He don't need to support this guy, it's who he is.

Does the same thing in Jersey, visits all the businesses in his hometown , take pictures with fans, never heard of any fan saying he was rude to them. Maybe has been at times, but majority say he's super nice.

And this is a guy who recently made Forbes list of billionaires, hanging out with a artist like that...

He ain't hanging out with Mick Jagger?

You act like all these other artists don't do the same thing? I have hung with all sorts of big named artists, and I have countless friends who are friends with just about any of them. Nils Lofgren is a JPF member and multiple awards nominee. I have chatted with him on the phone. Most musicians are just regular people behind the scenes. A lot of them are shy, that is always surprising, when they can be monsters on stage and blend in with a wall in the dressing room. Sure, there are a few ass-es. But most I have ever run into (minus a couple nutbags) have been super nice. I have gotten to hang at some of their houses (in this case because I am good friends with their good friend, I don't have a ton of massive stars I am that close with anymore (as several have sadly passed away) but I have tons of friends who are directly connected to high profile famous artists. One of my wife's best friends plays guitar with Boston. I spoke with Brad Delp sadly the day before he passed about his side project album he had entered into our awards. (still haunts me). There's only 1 superstar I had really bad experiences with and he is a famous ass to everyone. Most have local artists they are friends with near where they live or grew up. It's really common and normal. People blow these folks up like they are superhuman. They really are "Just Plain Folks." (sometimes in both contexts). We had a hugely famous artist who used ot post here anonymously and there are people still on this site who interacted with him without knowing it. The funniest thing was when a big discussion was happening and coincidentally his name came up and for fun he chimed in and was told he didn't know what he was talking about when he was literally the guy being discussed. He found it hilarious. I miss those days, but alas...


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Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
I have had people perform in my basement who have been on tour around the world playing massive stadiums as part of famous bands for decades. There are tons of people like this. I will mention 4 awesome artists: Cindy Alexander who tours with The Bacon Brothers every year for 2 decades. Ed Toth who was part of Vertical Horizon who had the #1 song in the world and opened the 30th anniversary show at Woodstock and subsequently he joined the Doobie Brothers who just now are concluding their careers. Next is Marc VonEm who toured (and still does) with Rob Thomas around the world for nearly 2 decades, sometimes opening, but mostly just being part of the band, playing guitar and singing. Lastly is Bob Malone who tours the world on his own but more notably has toured as John Fogerty's keyboard player for about 15-18 years. They just went in the studio for a new album. These people have all played many dozens of our JPF shows around the country for the past 30 years and also have played at my house as well. It is kind of surreal to see them at major venues with 70K+ at arena shows. I saw Bob play Radio City Music Hall one year and got to hang backstage with all world drummer Kenny Aronoff and briefly with John Fogerty. They are all just regular people. Many do benefits to help fellow artists in trouble. None of they hang with Springsteen, but then BS isn't the end all for most people like he is for some here. I had backstage passes to hang with the E Street Band the year Bruce toured "Born in the USA" and gave them away. He just never appealed to me. He was playing the Hoosier Dome (where the Colts played). They have since built a new stadium.

Lol, to me he is, I understand he's not for everybody, alot of people think music should be fun, not as serious as his.

Live there is nobody better, that's when it gets fun. I've seen him over 30 times

I have friends who used to be big fans and now hate him cause how he got political later on.

Shouldn't change how you feel when you listen. He git big at the right time for me, ten years after brn in USA I turned to his music and found great meaning and understanding In it. It got me through some hard times, and still reminds me of the power of music

He doesn't make great records any more, but the cat is there to listen to

What I still admire about him is his goodness to fans and guys like this. He don't need to support this guy, it's who he is.

Does the same thing in Jersey, visits all the businesses in his hometown , take pictures with fans, never heard of any fan saying he was rude to them. Maybe has been at times, but majority say he's super nice.

And this is a guy who recently made Forbes list of billionaires, hanging out with a artist like that...

He ain't hanging out with Mick Jagger?

You act like all these other artists don't do the same thing? I have hung with all sorts of big named artists, and I have countless friends who are friends with just about any of them. Nils Lofgren is a JPF member and multiple awards nominee. I have chatted with him on the phone. Most musicians are just regular people behind the scenes. A lot of them are shy, that is always surprising, when they can be monsters on stage and blend in with a wall in the dressing room. Sure, there are a few ass-es. But most I have ever run into (minus a couple nutbags) have been super nice. I have gotten to hang at some of their houses (in this case because I am good friends with their good friend, I don't have a ton of massive stars I am that close with anymore (as several have sadly passed away) but I have tons of friends who are directly connected to high profile famous artists. One of my wife's best friends plays guitar with Boston. I spoke with Brad Delp sadly the day before he passed about his side project album he had entered into our awards. (still haunts me). There's only 1 superstar I had really bad experiences with and he is a famous ass to everyone. Most have local artists they are friends with near where they live or grew up. It's really common and normal. People blow these folks up like they are superhuman. They really are "Just Plain Folks." (sometimes in both contexts). We had a hugely famous artist who used ot post here anonymously and there are people still on this site who interacted with him without knowing it. The funniest thing was when a big discussion was happening and coincidentally his name came up and for fun he chimed in and was told he didn't know what he was talking about when he was literally the guy being discussed. He found it hilarious. I miss those days, but alas...

Most important part of your post....Nils Lofgren is a jpf member?

What an amazing talent...singing, harmonies, writing, performing. He already had a good solo career and played fur neil younger crazy horse before joining Bruce.

Bruce coined him" the most overqualified back up guitarist in the world, and the Godfather if the guitar

He plays several instruments masterfully.

This solo is when I realized how awesome he is bit just jamming ut playing to the song, combination of technique and soul and emotion

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
I have had people perform in my basement who have been on tour around the world playing massive stadiums as part of famous bands for decades. There are tons of people like this. I will mention 4 awesome artists: Cindy Alexander who tours with The Bacon Brothers every year for 2 decades. Ed Toth who was part of Vertical Horizon who had the #1 song in the world and opened the 30th anniversary show at Woodstock and subsequently he joined the Doobie Brothers who just now are concluding their careers. Next is Marc VonEm who toured (and still does) with Rob Thomas around the world for nearly 2 decades, sometimes opening, but mostly just being part of the band, playing guitar and singing. Lastly is Bob Malone who tours the world on his own but more notably has toured as John Fogerty's keyboard player for about 15-18 years. They just went in the studio for a new album. These people have all played many dozens of our JPF shows around the country for the past 30 years and also have played at my house as well. It is kind of surreal to see them at major venues with 70K+ at arena shows. I saw Bob play Radio City Music Hall one year and got to hang backstage with all world drummer Kenny Aronoff and briefly with John Fogerty. They are all just regular people. Many do benefits to help fellow artists in trouble. None of they hang with Springsteen, but then BS isn't the end all for most people like he is for some here. I had backstage passes to hang with the E Street Band the year Bruce toured "Born in the USA" and gave them away. He just never appealed to me. He was playing the Hoosier Dome (where the Colts played). They have since built a new stadium.

Lol, to me he is, I understand he's not for everybody, alot of people think music should be fun, not as serious as his.

Live there is nobody better, that's when it gets fun. I've seen him over 30 times

I have friends who used to be big fans and now hate him cause how he got political later on.

Shouldn't change how you feel when you listen. He git big at the right time for me, ten years after brn in USA I turned to his music and found great meaning and understanding In it. It got me through some hard times, and still reminds me of the power of music

He doesn't make great records any more, but the cat is there to listen to

What I still admire about him is his goodness to fans and guys like this. He don't need to support this guy, it's who he is.

Does the same thing in Jersey, visits all the businesses in his hometown , take pictures with fans, never heard of any fan saying he was rude to them. Maybe has been at times, but majority say he's super nice.

And this is a guy who recently made Forbes list of billionaires, hanging out with a artist like that...

He ain't hanging out with Mick Jagger?

You act like all these other artists don't do the same thing? I have hung with all sorts of big named artists, and I have countless friends who are friends with just about any of them. Nils Lofgren is a JPF member and multiple awards nominee. I have chatted with him on the phone. Most musicians are just regular people behind the scenes. A lot of them are shy, that is always surprising, when they can be monsters on stage and blend in with a wall in the dressing room. Sure, there are a few ass-es. But most I have ever run into (minus a couple nutbags) have been super nice. I have gotten to hang at some of their houses (in this case because I am good friends with their good friend, I don't have a ton of massive stars I am that close with anymore (as several have sadly passed away) but I have tons of friends who are directly connected to high profile famous artists. One of my wife's best friends plays guitar with Boston. I spoke with Brad Delp sadly the day before he passed about his side project album he had entered into our awards. (still haunts me). There's only 1 superstar I had really bad experiences with and he is a famous ass to everyone. Most have local artists they are friends with near where they live or grew up. It's really common and normal. People blow these folks up like they are superhuman. They really are "Just Plain Folks." (sometimes in both contexts). We had a hugely famous artist who used ot post here anonymously and there are people still on this site who interacted with him without knowing it. The funniest thing was when a big discussion was happening and coincidentally his name came up and for fun he chimed in and was told he didn't know what he was talking about when he was literally the guy being discussed. He found it hilarious. I miss those days, but alas...

Most important part of your post....Nils Lofgren is a jpf member?

What an amazing talent...singing, harmonies, writing, performing. He already had a good solo career and played fur neil younger crazy horse before joining Bruce.

Bruce coined him" the most overqualified back up guitarist in the world, and the Godfather if the guitar

He plays several instruments masterfully.

This solo is when I realized how awesome he is bit just jamming ut playing to the song, combination of technique and soul and emotion

Tune in around 4.00 of video


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We tried to get him to perform at our 2009 music awards show, but he was out on tour. For a short time we thought he might be able to do it, which is when we spoke on the phone, but we had to lock the date down in Nashville at the Wildhorse Saloon and it was a conflict for him. He was super nice. I think one of the studio guys we hired to be the backing band that night had worked with him. I tried to remember who, but I just can't recall that much detail post strokes sadly.


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